Winners and Losers from a Fiscal-Cliff Deal

I know you don't care, but it needs to be said nonetheless.

STY believes that Congress makes the laws, not wall street. The fact that Congress is bought and paid for by wall street is immaterial to him.
correct, because unlike alot of other people, I believe that we get the government we vote for. If you vote for a candidate that you KNOW has millions in corporate campaign contributions and you see campaign ads paid for by groups supported by corporations, and then you actually vote for them, you're the fucking moron that deserves the laws that support wall street. the only way to stop that crap is to stop voting for the person with the largest campaign chest. anything else, and you really have no right to bitch about it.
 
That is not what they meant and you know it. If it were, why didn't they set up universal healthcare from the get go? Why didn't they set up a Dept of Health? You are twisting the words and yourself in knots trying to comport them to your worldview. You do not have a right to medical care.

But, forget the philosophical for a second. Why in the world would you turn your medical care decisions over to the government? That makes absolutely no sense.

It boggles the mind when you hear people complain about all the things government does and then the same people turn around and ask the government to do more.
apple doesnt care about what the founders intended, only what the words of the founders can be twisted to mean, which generally means an overall pervasive central government that controls every aspect of a persons life, except their sexual activities. see, apple is a statist who believes that freedom is not inherent, but is a privilege extended only to those who 'go along to get along'. anything else is just anarchy.
 
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Was the US Constitution set up to limit the powers of the federal government or expand them to all aspects of life?

The Constitution sets up the government, defines the government, and protects basic rights of Americans. You cannot argue this fact. Actually, you can, but you would be wrong.

apple doesnt care about what the founders intended,
No...you don't care what the founders intended because you don't like the Constitution they came up with.
 
Once again democrats got their asses stomped into the ground .. which to them smells like victory.

NEWSFLASH: Spending and entitlement cuts are next .. and you just gave away all your bargaining chips for little of nothing.

The midterms are going to be brutal for democrats .. AGAIN.

In what universe do you see the democrats getting their asses stomped into the ground? Boehner got rolled by Obama. We got $41 in increased taxes for $1 cut in spending. Were you looking for $100 increase in spending?

Nobody is cutting any entitlements. Your team has their "granny going off the cliff commercials" at the ready and the boot licking Obama sycophants in the media are ready and willing to carry more of his water.

It is game set match. The socialists have won. Now it is time to have some fun and wait for the impending economic apocalypse. And make no mistake, the economic apocalypse is as sure to happen as Desh is to say something stupid
 
The Constitution sets up the government, defines the government, and protects basic rights of Americans. You cannot argue this fact..

I wouldn't argue that fact Homo Howey. I would agree with it, but that isn't what you left wingers are arguing. The Constitution was written telling the government what it CAN'T do. That is why they document is so magical and why central planners and big gobblement lovers like yourself hate it so much.

Your hero Obama says it best on what your type think of the US Constitution and why it stands in your way


Here is the difference between you and me. I would take the US Constitution as written with the exception of the 3/5 Clause and keep it word for fucking word. You would not.
 
In what universe do you see the democrats getting their asses stomped into the ground? Boehner got rolled by Obama. We got $41 in increased taxes for $1 cut in spending. Were you looking for $100 increase in spending?

Nobody is cutting any entitlements. Your team has their "granny going off the cliff commercials" at the ready and the boot licking Obama sycophants in the media are ready and willing to carry more of his water.

It is game set match. The socialists have won. Now it is time to have some fun and wait for the impending economic apocalypse. And make no mistake, the economic apocalypse is as sure to happen as Desh is to say something stupid

A ridiculous stupid and immature comment spoken in the language of a child.
 
Does anyone have any idea what the fuck STY is talking about and why he wrote the above in response to my post? If so, congrats. But don't let me in on it because I just don't care.

which is obviously why you responded as you did above... if you didn't care... why whine about it?
 
And so will you fool......Romneys Cap. gains tax rate was the same as yours last year and yours will be the same as his next year....idiot....
nothing's changed....everyone that has Cap gains will be pay the same rate, rich or poor, black or white, old or young.....just as it always was.....

Yes...idiot...and it is still just as illegal for a rich man to steal a loaf of bread as a poor man.
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I'll bet the Pinhead pRune was trying to make a profound point here....I wonder what the hell is was......

pRunes response is beyond inane and past stupid, into the realm of the mentally ill.....
 
It's a pretty bad deal. It doesn't address any of the real issues, and just postpones a lot of what they really need to do.

Washington is really broken. It just doesn't work anymore.

This. Not even a hint of a long-term solution.
 
This. Not even a hint of a long-term solution.

Because the elites are happy just the way things are. Why should they change? There is no impetus for them to change. The overwhelming majority of incumbents win. The populace runs around playing my side is better than your side. They both suck monkey balls.

The game is over, the only thing that matters is when the referee calls the fight. We are $16 trillion in debt that is on the books with unfunded liabilities as far as the eye can see. We have no hope of ever paying that back.

The Fed has been stealing our wealth since the dot com bust, but nobody seems to notice or care. There is only two things worth owning in the coming years.

1) land free and clear (check)
2) physical silver preferably junk silver as it is easier to barter with (check)
 
I wouldn't argue that fact Homo Howey. I would agree with it, but that isn't what you left wingers are arguing. The Constitution was written telling the government what it CAN'T do. That is why they document is so magical and why central planners and big gobblement lovers like yourself hate it so much.

Your hero Obama says it best on what your type think of the US Constitution and why it stands in your way


Here is the difference between you and me. I would take the US Constitution as written with the exception of the 3/5 Clause and keep it word for fucking word. You would not.

The Constitution is a living document created by the founding fathers to be amended as needed.
 
Because the elites are happy just the way things are. Why should they change? There is no impetus for them to change. The overwhelming majority of incumbents win. The populace runs around playing my side is better than your side. They both suck monkey balls.

The game is over, the only thing that matters is when the referee calls the fight. We are $16 trillion in debt that is on the books with unfunded liabilities as far as the eye can see. We have no hope of ever paying that back.

The Fed has been stealing our wealth since the dot com bust, but nobody seems to notice or care. There is only two things worth owning in the coming years.

1) land free and clear (check)
2) physical silver preferably junk silver as it is easier to barter with (check)

Actually, because of 6045b, it is better to buy gold and silver coins minted by the US government as those are not treated the same as investment vehicles and no 1099 is necessary to buy, hold, or sell those. They are basically tax invisible.
 
The Constitution is a living document created by the founding fathers to be amended as needed.

It is not a living document. The only people who say that are people who don't like what it says. As for the ability to be amended, well NO SHIT SHERLOCK. But you and your ilk don't like going to the trouble of amending it because the Founding Fathers purposefully made it difficult to do.

They didn't want "radical" change in any direction. That was the reason for the checks and balances. It was the reason elections were set up the way they were. You and your ilk don't like that, hence the birth of "the living Constitution".

It either means what it says, or it does not.
 
The Constitution is a living document created by the founding fathers to be amended as needed.

There's this thing called an Amendment that actually needs to happen in order to Amend it. There definitely is a vehicle for change, should the idea merit it. Pass your Amendment, let us see if it is an idea that merits that change.

However, the document isn't "living" and not subject to change through "interpretation". Change to the powers of government must come through the proper channel, a Constitutional Amendment.
 
Actually, because of 6045b, it is better to buy gold and silver coins minted by the US government as those are not treated the same as investment vehicles and no 1099 is necessary to buy, hold, or sell those. They are basically tax invisible.

So is junk silver. I am not talking about an investment vehicle when I speak of junk silver. I am talking about having hard currency that is easily recognizable that one can barter with when the poo hits the fan. The gobblement has shown a willingness to confiscate gold in the past, they will do it again.
 
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