“Will DOGE lose more money than it saves?”

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“ The Department of Government Efficiency claims that it has saved the country $115 billion so far. But is this accurate?”

It says $160 billion. Does that make you cry?

“On DOGE’s website, it claims that $115 billion has saved taxpayers around $715 each. However, DOGE has deleted hundreds of claims from its “wall of receipts” several times.”

No, it is saying $160 billion. The number goes up all the time. Does that make you cry?

“DOGE’s plan to cut staff at the IRS by up to 50% would lead to a $400 billion increase in uncollected taxes over the next 10 years.

That's a lie. How do these leftist sites even make such stupid claims with a straight face? But what they do know is brainless Kamala voters like you will gobble their BS up and parrot it endlessly as if it were a fact.

This could lead to $2 trillion in losses.

Another laughably brainless fabricated pile of bullshit.

Right now, the IRS fails to collect around $700 billion in taxes that are owed each year.

Another laughably brainless fabricated pile of bullshit.

The Quarterly Journal of Economics suggests that every dollar that is spent on auditing individuals in the top 10% of earners returns around $12.”

Who said they are no longer going to audit the wealthy and their very complicated returns? No one. Another brainless lie.

“The Treasury Department’s inspector general has previously estimated that each hour spent auditing a high earner creates close to $5,000 more in tax revenue”

See above.

Not surprising, there is a reason Trump quickly eliminated the IGs and watchdogs on Government spending, the last thing he and Musk want is having to prove what they bloviate

Watching brainless leftist dumbasses like you cry about eliminating waste and corruptions suggests DOGE is over the target.

I am amused by the idiot claim that there is NOTHING to be cut and NO waste and NO CORRUPTION in the massive bloated Federal Government.

Kamala voters bloviate the dumbest shit.

 

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The real cost will be determined long the future. They have to pay for so many court cases that Musk is creating with his ridiculous power grab. They will have to rehire a lot of people, because Govt, work is real work.

More brainless tripe from the moron class.

 

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Won’t know unless we try. Amazing leftists are more mad at the guy finding wasteful spending than the people doing the wasting

The same dumbasses don't want to talk about the massive costs to taxpayers of housing, feeding, clothing, educating and providing medical care for the millions of uneducated third world criminal aliens Biden let into the country.

 

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The Department of Education has 4,200 employees, and less than 0.3% overhead. That is not bloated. The waste and fraud that exists is because of a lack of bureaucrats to eliminate it.

Dodge is a mess. It is not working out what it is doing, before it does it. This is creating a wasteful disaster.

Another moronic claim. Hey, dumbass, ALL of those employed at the DOE are overhead. Every Federal and State employee is OVERHEAD you willful idiot. No wonder you voted for Kamala. You really are THAT fucking dumb.

Moron doesn't know what overhead means.

 

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One of our biggest expenses as a nationi is the interest on our debt. Pay that debt down by raising taxes on the uber wealthy, closing loopholes, and enforcing existing tax law will help immensely. Tariffs will not. Notice how neither #PresidentMusk nor his lapdog are talking about that?

Another moronic claim from an uneducated dotard. We don't have a revenue problem and raising taxes will ever pay down the debt because we have a SPENDING problem that Democrats don't seem to mind.

 

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what are your feelings on winston churchill????

one cannot tax their way to prosperity. you MUST decrease spending in order to pay down debt

That is way over these low IQ leftists heads.

 

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Wow! What a powerful insight!

Wow, what a brainless moron!

 

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What does Churchill have to do with anything?

It is what he has said dumbass.

Thios is why you cannot argue with brainless leftists. You have to educate them and they are incapable of learning with those retarded IQs.

You can balance your budget -- personal or national -- by both decreasing spending and increasing income. Clinton did it.

You cannot Tax your way out of a never-ending cycle of wasteful spending to buy votes.

If you taxed every Billionaire in the US 100%, it wouldn't make a dent in the current deficits and debt cycle.

Most of us agree that there is a lot of wasteful spending by the federal govt.

And yet, morons on the left are having conniptions and encouraging their unhinged fellow travelers to burn Tesla's and threaten those driving them.

However, the more sane among us understand that you don't cut it with a dancing idiot waving around a chainsaw. You cut it judiciously. One way to weed out waste and fraud is to offer incentives to employees and managers to report it, anonymously so they don't get reprisals.

I have to laugh at leftist dumbasses who never cared about spending until......BUT TRUMP!!

Just STFU already you brainless hypocrite.

 

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Yesterday the brainless idiot got slammed for making close to zero political posts, and the day before. Instead she lurked in her "tribute threads," drinking copiously and screaming incoherently about crazy stuff. It was quite spectacular, if you're into flaming clown car wrecks. lol

Do you think that mocking someone's auto-correct error counts as a "political post"?

 

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That is the thing MAGAS are crying the libs don't want waste and fraud cut.
It isn't that, most people I know do but going in and just start cutting programs first and not finding the waste and fraud FIRST is not the way to do it and that is just what Trump and his boys are doing.
And it is hurting some people big time.

....because you, a brainless mental case, say so.

 

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Trump is absolutely the wrong person to be doing this. He is all about style and appearances and doesn't care about substance. The idiotic prancing on stage with a chainsaw is a pure Trumpian game show schtick -- bread and circuses for the MAGAT masses. What is needed is a thoughtful, sober, rational executive who systemically and methodically has competent accountants and other bean counters go through each agency's budget and question everything. This executive would have worked with experts and nonbiased advisers to construct guidelines and policy for what constitutes waste (and fraud).

This would of course take time. Trump's short attention span, and that of his Cult, wants instant results and is loathe to take the hard road to cutting wasteful spending with a minimum of pain.

BUT TRUMP!!!!

 

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So explain to us how his supposed savings, which have not been confirmed, come nowhere near the lost revenue resulted by decimating the IRS, not a loss?

Your data is faked. That's why it is a stupid thread lacking in truth, facts and honesty.

 

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That’s wrong, I just gave you the exact reason why, if the IRS already falls to collect now close to a trillion every year in unpaid taxes how does a 50% cut in their staff and resources not result in even greater lost revenue?

Wrong, you gave us a bunch of hyperbolic claims that cannot be substantiated by coherent facts.

And no one is arguing the Government needs cutting, but doing it indiscriminately without any design can only result in further problems, when you eliminate half the workforce without first exams that workforce you could wind up with even worse fraud and waste

There you go with the brainless strawmen again. Define how this is indiscriminate and without any design?

 

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Like thousands of people 150 years old still collection social security?

It was millions. Do you think there is no fraudulent activity involved in having dead people still on the active roles?

there are more than 20 million listed with ages 100 and higher, including more than 3.9 million in the 130-139 age range, more than 3.5 million in the 140-149 range and more than 1.3 million in the 150-159 range.

How fucking brainless are you? That was rhetorical. It's obvious you're an epic moron.

 

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Too generalized

Clinton had surpluses, and did lessen the debt

Wrong. That was the Republican led congress. Clinton can't create legislation. Democrats lost in a massive midterm after nearly fifty years of Democrat control and Clinton had the common sense, which is lacking in Obama and Biden, to work with them and sign their reforms into law.

 

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Nothing personal, but you are wrong again, what you are missing is that Musk’s indiscriminate firing of people

Musk cannot fire anyone halfwit. Why the dumb lies?

doesn’t even guarantee you are maintaining the best employees.

Another brainless "because I say so" moment.

The cuts are indiscriminate, you don’t quickly release half your workforce with one month in if your cuts are designed to, the fact that Musk has had to quickly rehire some of those fired proves that point

Another brainless "because I say so" moment. You have a lot of those.

And I am not assuming each and every person is necessary, rather that the undersigned cutting that is occurring is without real thought or design, it is largely political.

Another brainless "because I say so" moment. Again, you seem to have a lot of those.

As I’ve asked, how do you save when you ax half a workforce that already isn’t staffed enough to collect a trillion dollars a year in unpaid taxes? The loss revenue will never be recovered

How do you argue with made up bullshit with no facts or reality and not be embarrassed?

 

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It is many different things, depending on the context.

 

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Sweden has high taxes, and prosperity. Somalia has low taxes, and no prosperity.

Dumb comparisons. But Sweden also has a productivity problem, an immigrant problem and a massive spending problem to prop up their Socialist welfare systems.

 

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Wrong, it’s been debunked, even Trump’s appointed head of SS confirmed such (https://apnews.com/article/social-s...-claims-doge-ed2885f5769f368853ac3615b4852cf7), and yet both Trump and Musk keep echoing the lie

From your link halfwit:

It is true that improper payments have been made, including some to dead people. But the numbers thrown out by Musk and the White House are overstated and misrepresent Social Security data.

You don't even bother reading the tripe you post, do you?

 

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Why?

Why you cannot argue with brainless, lying leftists.