Will Alabama Uphold Segregation?

WB, WTF do you think that flag is about? The flag waving (wrong one) scoundrels will claim otherwise, but it has NOTHING to do with state's rights and everything thing to do with them showing malicious pride in a racist past. Of course, it is a silly issue but the haters rely on the apathy of better people to win. You might not feel the need to go out and work against them, but you should at least quit apologizing for those aholes.


Yep. And until recently, WB's fellow Alabamian sported a Confederate battle flag as his avatar, didn't he?
 
Just in 2000 40% of your population supported keeping language that banned interracial marriage. Yes it is just symoblic and the symbol is clung to promote pride in racism.

Why not challenge the racists of your state instead of worrying about how others perceive them?

What makes you think I have not challenged racists in my state and elsewhere?

I have simply said that I am not wasting time on people who choose to believe stereotypes are accurate.
 
WB,

WTF do you think that flag is about? The flag waving (wrong one) scoundrels will claim otherwise, but it has NOTHING to do with state's rights and everything thing to do with them showing malicious pride in a racist past. Of course, it is a silly issue but the haters rely on the apathy of better people to win. You might not feel the need to go out and work against them, but you should at least quit apologizing for those aholes.

Please show me where I have ever apologized for the idiots waving the battle ensign of a foriegn nation?

That flag has become a symbol of racism, I have not argued that. What I am arguing is that those who choose to believe that all southerners fit the stereotype of knuckledragging, sheet wearing redneck are as ignorant as the minority of people in the south who do fit that profile.
 
Please show me where I have ever apologized for the idiots waving the battle ensign of a foriegn nation?

That flag has become a symbol of racism, I have not argued that. What I am arguing is that those who choose to believe that all southerners fit the stereotype of knuckledragging, sheet wearing redneck are as ignorant as the minority of people in the south who do fit that profile.

Great! That was a seperate point intended to give you some perspective on the primary issue of this thread.

The change in 2004 was NOT about any tax increase. What the cynical Republicans have done here is not about stopping any tax increase. That is a LIE advanced by those who seek to promote racist symbols.

They are not advocates of limited government. They advocate using the state to promote whites only and to maintain inequality. Don't be fooled by them. In doing so you only help to maintain the negative stereotypes.
 
Stringy, it doesn't matter WHY the language was put into the Constitution, no one is arguing that aspect. The proposition to remove said language has been put before the people once before, in 2004. It included a line about how education was a Constitutional right, which would have effectively given the State of Alabama the authority it needed to adopt a statewide school tax. This proposal was introduced after attempts to pass a massive tax increase failed at the ballot box. Everyone knew why they wanted to pass this proposition, and it had absolutely NOTHING to do with removing the language. The language issue was used as means to goad people into supporting their attempts to constitutionalize a statewide school tax, because their previous tax increase measure failed. Now jump ahead to 2012, the Republicans have revamped the very same proposition, the only change being in the line that guarantees a constitutional right to education, changing that to NOT a constitutional right, and the very same people who screamed "racism" at those who didn't support it in 2004, are refusing to support it now.

Now those are the facts, and I clarified my errors almost immediately after I made them in my first response to you. IF you want to continue parading that around claiming some sort of moral victory over me, so be it! I can't help that your life is obviously that pathetic, but you're not going to get away with spreading lies about this proposition and the history behind it or intentions of it.
 
The foundational document for Alabama's government is the Alabama Constitution, which was ratified in 1901.


At almost 800 amendments and 310,000 words, it is the world's longest constitution and is roughly forty times the length of the U.S. Constitution.


There is a significant movement to rewrite and modernize Alabama's constitution.[SUP]


[/SUP]This movement is based upon the fact that Alabama's constitution highly centralizes power in Montgomery and leaves practically no power in local hands.


Any policy changes proposed around the state must be approved by the entire Alabama legislature and, frequently, by state referendum.


One criticism of the current constitution claims that its complexity and length were intentional to codify segregation and racism.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Alabama
 
Stringy, it doesn't matter WHY the language was put into the Constitution, no one is arguing that aspect. The proposition to remove said language has been put before the people once before, in 2004. It included a line about how education was a Constitutional right, which would have effectively given the State of Alabama the authority it needed to adopt a statewide school tax. This proposal was introduced after attempts to pass a massive tax increase failed at the ballot box. Everyone knew why they wanted to pass this proposition, and it had absolutely NOTHING to do with removing the language. The language issue was used as means to goad people into supporting their attempts to constitutionalize a statewide school tax, because their previous tax increase measure failed. Now jump ahead to 2012, the Republicans have revamped the very same proposition, the only change being in the line that guarantees a constitutional right to education, changing that to NOT a constitutional right, and the very same people who screamed "racism" at those who didn't support it in 2004, are refusing to support it now.

Now those are the facts, and I clarified my errors almost immediately after I made them in my first response to you. IF you want to continue parading that around claiming some sort of moral victory over me, so be it! I can't help that your life is obviously that pathetic, but you're not going to get away with spreading lies about this proposition and the history behind it or intentions of it.

According to the information in the article and the wikipedia article linked, you are either still quite confused or you are LYING! The amendment in 2004 sought to remove the language that said there was no consitutional right to an education. That language is part of the constitution NOW and the current amendment seeks to replace the section with language reaffirming that there is no right to an education.

The 2004 amendment did not add any language and only sought to remove the entire section. It would not have included a tax increase. That's the bullshit lie that Roy Moore and other racists brought up against it.
 
You are a proud member of the movement? You don't even know what is going on there or that the legislature is heavily dominated by Republicans and you did not know what was going on in 2004. Who do you think you are kidding?
 
...Only this morning, you admitted that you have significant memory problems, didn't you?

No, I didn't.

You didn't?

... I live here, I know what is going on. The Alabama state legislature is predominately Democrat...

Well, you gotta keep reading, in my next post, I clarified that I had researched this and corrected what I said in this post. Yes, I understand Republicans now control the Alabama legislature...

What post number was that?


...I clarified my errors almost immediately after I made them in my first response to you...

You did? What post number was that?

Uhm... yeah... embarrassingly, I forgot for about 30 seconds then corrected myself.

So you admitted that you have significant memory issues after all.

What post was that correction in?


It's kind of easy to forget a recent change to something that has been a certain way for 136 years...

Sure, and it's kind of easy to forget you admitted forgetting it later the same fucking day, right?
 
It sure is strange how a rabid Republican living in Alabama would have any trouble remembering that his party took over the state legislature and dominates the body. Hmmmm, interesting.
 
Where in this thread does Dixie correct himself on who is in control of the state legislature. He corrected his knee jerk reaction claiming the current referendum was the one proposed in 2004 but I don't see him correcting the error on who controls the state house. WB and I pointed that out.

He still is quite confused about the referendum from 2004, the current one and what is actually in his state's Constitution.

It seems very odd to me that a resident would have trouble remembering a historic election like 2010's or that a person that is a proud member of a movement to rewrite the state Constitution would have so little knowledge of the Constitution or the previous attempts to amend it. I do not claim to be a resident of Alabama and I could see his errors easily.

I think, Dixie has been lying to us.
 
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