Why?

OF COURSE YOU DO. You voted for a FELON who is also legally barred from running charities because he stole from them. You voted for a man who had to pay MORE MONEY THAN YOU WILL MAKE IN YOUR LIFETIME to settle a rape charge with a woman. OF COURSE YOU LIKE BEING FLEECED. It's what you VOTED FOR.

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Is that so?

Please gaze into your magic ball and reveal how you know who I voted for, or if I voted at all.





 
Ahhh, so laws are mere "technicalities" when they need to be.

Got it. Laws only apply to brown people.
When someone is that determined to strawman not much can be done.

Then you must REALLY hate ICE vehicles. The oil companies who are among the most profitable businesses on earth get massive subsidies and tax breaks from the American government.
No, I really hate subsidies. Tax breaks aren't stealing. Taxing is stealing.

You getting this? I don't hate a technology because thieves are involved in production.
 
If Tesla makes their next big EV model based on a novel energy storage tech that is NOT large Batteries, I'd start investing in their stock.

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If Tesla makes their next big EV model based on a novel energy storage tech that is NOT large Batteries, I'd start investing in their stock.

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With all due respect to Elon as an engineer and the enormous effort of the employees of Tesla, that stock is way over valued. The only way you're going to make any money with it is if other people are even more insane than you and keep buying.
 
With all due respect to Elon as an engineer and the enormous effort of the employees of Tesla, that stock is way over valued. The only way you're going to make any money with it is if other people are even more insane than you and keep buying.

The general concept of an EV, or an small, high efficiency vehicle which charges on low pollution produced electric power, is a good idea. Particularly if the vehicle is targeted at daily commutes, with only one or two seats, and limited mass/range.

The primary problem with all of the U.S. EVs is they are based on Toxic Lithium batteries, for the energy storage mechanism. And they don't need to be, there are plenty of other, less toxic, and more durable options.

In time, some American Car company is going to figure that out, and make a huge amount of money.

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The Feds are fast approaching the final days where they can throw money out the door at their pet causes....that is what this is about.
 
If Rivian had based their EVs on the British developed energy storage system of Liquid Aire, rather than Toxic Lithium Batteries, they would not need a bailout, but rather a new building for expansion.

EVs are a good idea. Done with the correct energy storage/coupling technology, they are a great idea.

2000+lbs Toxic Lithium Batteries with a usage time of 18 months will end up being the worst environmental disaster in human history, by a wide margin.

And there are a number of other viable energy storage/coupling systems...
HD Capacitors
Thermal Slugs
Flywheels
Non-Lithium Batteries, particularly Sodium
Road-Embedded Gapped Transformers
Thermal Catenaries

The problem is we all fell for the manipulations of the corrupt insider stock traders who had control of the Lithium mines.
( And had bought out all the Congress Critters )

Well, now we will pay with decades of Toxic Lithium Cancers, Birth Defects, and Violent Mental Illness.

Good Job!

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One of the power sources I have read about and think we should be helping get perfected in the NDB.
Nuclear Diamond battery.
They do have small ones working now but need to get them perfected more.
They use Nuclear waist and are said to last several thousand years.
They are said to be able to power a EV for several million miles without charging and when you park your EV that is using one you can plug it in and sell power back to the power companies.
It is a novel idea and if they can get it perfected that will turn the battery world on its head.
Here are some interesting links.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=ndb+battery+latest+news&FORM=QSRE1
In one of them it says MUSK has his fingers in it now so maybe they will get it to work like they want.
Again IF they can get this perfected it will revolutionize the battery world.
 
Apparently the biden administration has decided it will cut a check for $6.6 billion to help failing EV maker Rivian to help then finance a manufacturing plant in Georgia. I am think this is what they call, throwing good money after bad. This current lame ass president is doing he can to screw America over but leftists still won't be able to figure out why they lost.

Rivian lost $1.1 billion and saw its revenue fall nearly $500 million in the third quarter of 2024 as a slackening of consumer demand for EVs hampered the industry’s growth. Now, the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) has agreed to a conditional commitment to loan the automaker roughly $6.6 billion to help finance the construction of its manufacturing facility in Georgia, according to a press release from the DOE’s Loan Programs Office (LPO).

What does Elon think of all the MAGAt have for EVs?
 
And one other thing I am NOT a fan of MUSK being involved , epically now that he will be involved in Trumps cabinet.
But as I said I think the US government should have been backing this research and development for some time now.
And again IF they get this perfected it will not only revolutionize the battery industry but it could completely replace Oil as a fuel source .
An they may be expensive at first like most everything else but when manufacturing gets going the price ill come down and people will be able to afford them and will be buying them.
One of the good things is the life of them several hundred year with out paying to charge your EV ever and can power a car for millions of miles without charging or having to stop .
 
And one other thing I am NOT a fan of MUSK being involved , epically now that he will be involved in Trumps cabinet.
But as I said I think the US government should have been backing this research and development for some time now.
And again IF they get this perfected it will not only revolutionize the battery industry but it could completely replace Oil as a fuel source .
An they may be expensive at first like most everything else but when manufacturing gets going the price ill come down and people will be able to afford them and will be buying them.
One of the good things is the life of them several hundred year with out paying to charge your EV ever and can power a car for millions of miles without charging or having to stop .
Musk is not in Trumps cabinet.
 
Well what do you call being the head of the new " Department of Government Efficiency "
That will become part of Trump's cabinet it will be in time.
If it proves to cut the government waste, I am all for it. Hopefully, all they do freeze govt rehiring as people leave.
 
So the man whose ENTIRE business empire is KEYSTONED ON EV'S and who has finagled his way into the Trump administration is NOT going to seek advantage for his business empire????

Either you think Musk is a lot more HONEST than anyone else in the Trump administration or you think he's REALLY STUPID.

As I said: I bet in about a year or two all of you folks who HATE EV'S with a passion will suddenly be OK with EV's. :)
did Trump give him subsidies in 2017-2020?
 
If it proves to cut the government waste, I am all for it. Hopefully, all they do freeze govt rehiring as people leave.
Oh I am not against it if it works I was just saying it will be another department and become a cabinet seat and MUSK will then be in Trumps cabinet.
 
How much does our government give to Musk and his companies?

I suspect that’s about to triple.
I am not sure it will go up.
I didn't not know MUSK got involved with the NDB and I would like to see the government back that project more, YES I know MUSK will probably make billions on it if they get it perfected but it will be the answer to our and the worlds energy problems.
As I said I am not happy MUSK is involved in the project but if he can help get it perfected it will do a lot of good for everybody.
 
I am not sure it will go up.
I didn't not know MUSK got involved with the NDB and I would like to see the government back that project more, YES I know MUSK will probably make billions on it if they get it perfected but it will be the answer to our and the worlds energy problems.
As I said I am not happy MUSK is involved in the project but if he can help get it perfected it will do a lot of good for everybody.
It will quadruple
 
It will quadruple
Like I said I am not happy MUSK is in Trumps new cabinet but he is also involved in the NDB industry.
I have mixed feeling about it, but if they can get the NDB perfected and get the price down to where it is economical for people to buy and use it will change the power / fuel industry.
 
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