Why would doctors need to know if you have a gun?

Occupant said:
Maybe no one you hunt with, but there are lots of idiots out there hunting.
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You might be able to find a few that put their finger on the trigger sooner when hunting. But I doubt there are any who unload a gun with their finger on the trigger.

It is certainly not enough to warrant the dr asking about it. Lets face it, those who walk thru the woods with their finger on the trigger are not doing so because they have never been told not to do so.
 
WinterBorn said:
You might be able to find a few that put their finger on the trigger sooner when hunting. But I doubt there are any who unload a gun with their finger on the trigger.

It is certainly not enough to warrant the dr asking about it. Lets face it, those who walk thru the woods with their finger on the trigger are not doing so because they have never been told not to do so.
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Wrong! There are dumbfucks out there who hunt and drink and some pretty stupid people too.
There is no IQ test for gun ownership or buying a hunting liscence.

Yeah like people only do dumb stuff becuase they have not been told not to..

Sheesh,
Drinking and driving, speeding, drugs, etc...
I am sure no one has told those fools that those types of behaviour is dangerous.

And many hunters have NEVER taken a hunter or gun safety course.
 
Occupant said:
Wrong! There are dumbfucks out there who hunt and drink and some pretty stupid people too.
There is no IQ test for gun ownership or buying a hunting liscence.

Yeah like people only do dumb stuff becuase they have not been told not to..

Sheesh,
Drinking and driving, speeding, drugs, etc...
I am sure no one has told those fools that those types of behaviour is dangerous.

And many hunters have NEVER taken a hunter or gun safety course.
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I doubt there are many who have never heard that you don't put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to shoot. They would certainly be in the minority. And the number of those who are epileptic is pretty much an tiny, tiny percentage.

There are dumbasses everywhere. The dr asking about whether they own a gun is not going to save them from their own stupidity.
 
WinterBorn said:
I doubt there are many who have never heard that you don't put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to shoot. They would certainly be in the minority. And the number of those who are epileptic is pretty much an tiny, tiny percentage.

There are dumbasses everywhere. The dr asking about whether they own a gun is not going to save them from their own stupidity.
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Nope, but if the person is being treated for mental illness knowing they have a gun and taking the proper action could save the patient or someone elses life.

btw my Ithica featherlight pump shotgun has a slide release on the front of the triggerguard. This much be depressed to remove the chambered shell. Could be easy to grab the trigger instead of the release.
 
WinterBorn said:
No one I hunt with puts their finger on the trigger until they are ready to shoot. Likewise, only a complete idiot unloads his gun with his finger on the trigger. So this argument is nonsense. Come up with another reason a Dr needs to know whether or not I own guns.
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The only nonsense here is you've never seen a person have a seizure. If their hand is anywhere in the vicinity of the trigger it could very well spasm and hit it.

Care to try again?
 
apple0154 said:
Do tell us how one can take care of themselves when a driver coming from the opposite direction at 60 miles an hour has a seizure.
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so many to choose from. seat belts and airbags are just two of them. The most ridiculous part of your argument seems to be that by simple or complex government regulation and oversight, one can have ALL risks and dangers removed from even the simplest of daily tasks. something that will never be possible.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
so many to choose from. seat belts and airbags are just two of them. The most ridiculous part of your argument seems to be that by simple or complex government regulation and oversight, one can have ALL risks and dangers removed from even the simplest of daily tasks. something that will never be possible.
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On the other hand there's no point not trying to remove the ones possible.
 
apple0154 said:
The only nonsense here is you've never seen a person have a seizure. If their hand is anywhere in the vicinity of the trigger it could very well spasm and hit it.

Care to try again?
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I have indeed seen numerous seizures. Since the trigger is inside the trigger guard, the chances of them accidently striking it are very, very slim. Since the initial spasm is either closing or opening of the hand, chances are good they would either drop the gun or grip it where they had it. And since only about 4% of the population has siezures, it seems a rather random reason for a dr to ask if you own firearms.
 
WinterBorn said:
And who would say, "We let the baby play with our .45". It is lip-service at best.

But I like the way you automatically labeled the Ocala couple. It shows your mindest, to say the very least.
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Michael Lanese, for one, even though his babies were 9 years old.

UPPER ST. CLAIR, Pa. (AP) - A suburban Pittsburgh man whose 9-year-old son accidentally shot and killed his twin brother has been charged with involuntary manslaughter.

Allegheny County police say 66-year-old Michael Lanese, of Upper St. Clair in the South Hills, allowed his sons Stephan and Christian, access to guns, ammunition and other weapons. Lanese was also charged Monday with endangering the welfare of children.

Police say Stephen Lanese was playing with the gun unsupervised when he accidentally pulled the trigger, shooting Christian in the head on Oct. 18.

Police say Michael Lanese was downstairs reading a book at the time. It's not clear if Lanese has an attorney. A listed number for him couldn't be found.

http://www.ovparent.com/page/conten...--father-charged-in-son-s-death.html?nav=5021
 
christiefan915 said:
Michael Lanese, for one, even though his babies were 9 years old.

UPPER ST. CLAIR, Pa. (AP) - A suburban Pittsburgh man whose 9-year-old son accidentally shot and killed his twin brother has been charged with involuntary manslaughter.

Allegheny County police say 66-year-old Michael Lanese, of Upper St. Clair in the South Hills, allowed his sons Stephan and Christian, access to guns, ammunition and other weapons. Lanese was also charged Monday with endangering the welfare of children.

Police say Stephen Lanese was playing with the gun unsupervised when he accidentally pulled the trigger, shooting Christian in the head on Oct. 18.

Police say Michael Lanese was downstairs reading a book at the time. It's not clear if Lanese has an attorney. A listed number for him couldn't be found.

http://www.ovparent.com/page/conten...--father-charged-in-son-s-death.html?nav=5021
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And you think a doctor, asking about guns he owned and suggesting he store them properly, would have prevented this?
 
Derp Derp said:
No, you're full of shit. If I'm the physician I'm the one that's going to have to fix the hand that's been cut by a meat cleaver and if you have rat poison in your house I'll be the one who treats your kid for rat poisoning. As your physician I may ask that question to discourage you from keeping rat poison in a home with young children just as I may discourage you from possesing a gun in a home with young children. As a physician that is my right and as a patient it is your right not to divulge that information if you disagree. You're free to choose any physician you want.
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Very true. When my kids were young and seeing pediatricians, they would ask about cleaning or other chemicals used in the house, and remind me to keep them behind doors with a childproof lock.
 
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