Why were the Pharisees consistently depicted as the bad guys in the Christian gospels?

[Guno צְבִי]

Pharisees​

The Pharisees, unlike the Sadducees, maintained the validity of the Oral as well as the Written law. They were affectionate and harmonious in their dealings with others and especially respectful to their elders , They enacted rabbinic legislation to protect many institutions of Jewry that were threatened by Roman persecutions and, at times, were willing to adapt the law to changing circumstances. They believed in an afterlife and in the resurrection of the dead. By the first century C.E., the Pharisees came to represent the beliefs and practices of the majority of Palestinian Jewry.

“For I desire loving-kindness, not sacrifice.” Hosea 6:6

Charity and kindness [and prayer - Hosea 14:1-2] are our substitutes for sacrifice and, like the sin offering of old, they help mend what is broken in the world and in our soul.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Whatever, schmutzboi.
I would say the thing you might want to ask yourself is: How many of those Jewish teachings actually jibe with history and known facts?
You're not Jewish by blood, I bet.
I know I'm not. They don't really accept you even, guaranteed.
Also, that Spanish Pork and onion sandwich with mustard I'm gonna make later will be great!
Like an inch or more thick of juicy shredded pork that just melts in your mouth. So good!

most of these people are Russian and polish people who just wanted to be special.

they're pretending.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Pharisees​

The Pharisees, unlike the Sadducees, maintained the validity of the Oral as well as the Written law. They were affectionate and harmonious in their dealings with others and especially respectful to their elders , They enacted rabbinic legislation to protect many institutions of Jewry that were threatened by Roman persecutions and, at times, were willing to adapt the law to changing circumstances. They believed in an afterlife and in the resurrection of the dead. By the first century C.E., the Pharisees came to represent the beliefs and practices of the majority of Palestinian Jewry.

wrong.

they were assholes.

you misread the narrative.

 

[Matt Dillon]

Pharisees​

The Pharisees, unlike the Sadducees, maintained the validity of the Oral as well as the Written law. They were affectionate and harmonious in their dealings with others and especially respectful to their elders , They enacted rabbinic legislation to protect many institutions of Jewry that were threatened by Roman persecutions and, at times, were willing to adapt the law to changing circumstances. They believed in an afterlife and in the resurrection of the dead. By the first century C.E., the Pharisees came to represent the beliefs and practices of the majority of Palestinian Jewry.

So did they believe in the resurrection of Jesus?

 

[Cypress]

but in the modern world it means the title!!

Irrelevant.

Since I was specifically talking about Jesus, I was clearly referring to the way the word rabbi was being used in the late first century AD, when the gospels were written.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Irrelevant.

it is relevant.

you're trying to deceive people.

Since I was specifically talking about Jesus, I was clearly referring to the way the word rabbi was being used in the late first century AD, when the gospels were written.

no. you're trying to convince people Jesus was an establishment figure.

he was a pure rebel.

The Christian way is to speak truth to power.

you're just a cowardly devil worshipper in truth.

 

[Cypress]

no! you're trying to convince people Jesus was an establishment figure!

Jesus' own disciples and allies called him rabbi, aka 'teacher' in the gospel accounts

Nathanael (John 1:49): Proclaims, "Rabbi, you are the Son of God! You are the King of Israel!".​

Nicodemus (John 3:2): Acknowledges Jesus as a teacher from God.​

Disciples (John 4:31): Urge him to eat, calling him "Rabbi".​

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Mark 9:5: Peter calls Jesus "Rabbi" on the Mount of Transfiguration.​

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Matthew 26:25: Judas calls Jesus "Rabbi" before betraying him.​

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AI summary​

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Jesus' own disciples and allies called him rabbi, aka 'teacher' in the gospel accounts

Nathanael (John 1:49): Proclaims, "Rabbi, you are the Son of God! You are the King of Israel!".​

Nicodemus (John 3:2): Acknowledges Jesus as a teacher from God.​

Disciples (John 4:31): Urge him to eat, calling him "Rabbi".​

small r.

 

[Cypress]

small r

So you finally and tacitly confess you were wrong and I was correct that Jesus was called a rabbi, because that's what his own disciples call him in the gospel accounts.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

So you finally and tacitly confess you were wrong and I was correct that Jesus was called a rabbi, because that's what his own disciples call him in the gospel accounts.

small r. he didn't work at a temple like a pro Rabbi.

you're a deceiver.

 

[Cypress]

small r! he didn't work at a temple like a pro Rabbi!!

Now your trying to cover your tracks by complaining about capitalization and lower case.

I didn't day a single word about him being employed by the Sanhedrin or working at the Temple.

I said he was thought of as a religious teacher, aka a rabbi by his followers and the gospel accounts.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Now your trying to cover your tracks by complaining about capitalization and lower case.

I didn't day a single word about him being employed by the Sanhedrin or working at the Temple.

I said he was thought of as a religious teacher, i.e. a rabbi by his followers and the gospel accounts.

titles are capitalized.

so when we use the small r it means it's just the regular word version and not the titular one.

non-titular usage.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Jesus' own disciples and allies called him rabbi, aka 'teacher' in the gospel accounts

Nathanael (John 1:49): Proclaims, "Rabbi, you are the Son of God! You are the King of Israel!".​

Nicodemus (John 3:2): Acknowledges Jesus as a teacher from God.​

Disciples (John 4:31): Urge him to eat, calling him "Rabbi".​

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Mark 9:5: Peter calls Jesus "Rabbi" on the Mount of Transfiguration.​

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Matthew 26:25: Judas calls Jesus "Rabbi" before betraying him.​

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AI summary​

Jesus fits the definition. Not everyone has to agree with the teaching of a rabbi or other religious scholar. Think Trump and Bishop Budde.

Definition of RABBI

master, teacher —used by Jews as a term of address; a Jew qualified to expound and apply the halacha and other Jewish law; a Jew trained and ordained for professional religious leadership; specifically : the official leader of a Jewish congregation… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

Attacks on Bishop After Trump Clash Undermine 'Religious Freedom' Claims

Hateful reaction sparked by pleas made by Episcopal Bishop Mariann Budde demonstrate how hate groups have attempted to discredit liberal Christians.

www.splcenter.org

 

[Cypress]

titles are capitalized.

so when we use the small r it means it's just the regular word version and not the titular one.

non-titular usage.

So you have a major character flaw in not being able to admit when you are wrong.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

So you have a major character flaw in not being able to admit when you are wrong.

I'm not wrong.

you're confusing the two usages on purpose.

 

[gfm7175]

Liberalism has nothing to do with abortion.

Why are 99.99% of liberal political ads about abortion?

 

[Margot]

The gospel writers were writing what today would be called fanfiction.

And stories need conflict.

And conflict needs a villain.

They needed a reason for all the things Jesus promised would happen and didn’t happen.

The Jews fit the role perfectly. 99% of them rejected the messianic claims of Jesus and his followers.

So they MUST be evil.

Then, since the Jews were mostly wiped out by the time the Gospels were written, not a lot of people in Judea had much contact with them.

And what they heard about Jews and Judaism was distorted and twisted by Roman propaganda.

You would never know it from reading the "New Testament", but in the early first century there were two main kinds of Pharisees: the school of Shammai and the school of Hillel.

Broadly speaking, the school of Shammai was punctilious about observing the fine points of Jewish law; they were strict and unforgiving. The school of Hillel was more laid back, more lenient, more accommodating to human weakness.

Modern Rabbinical Judaism is largely descended from Pharasaism, and from the school of Hillel in particular, the Sadducees having largely disappeared with the Temple in the wake of the Jewish War of 66–73.


In the xtians bible Mark, the Pharisees don’t just represent Pharisees. They represent a Jewish faction within Christianity. Evidently James in particular insisted that Gentiles become Jews as part of the process of becoming Christians, and that they should comply with the Jewish laws.

The requirement of circumcision especially was a real deal-killer for potential converts among the Gentiles targeted by Paul’s marketing. Paul sought to eliminate this requirement, along with others, at least within his ministry.

By the time Mark was being written in the 70’s, James and Paul were both long gone, but there remained a schism between the Gentile-friendly Christianity of Paul’s churches and the Judaized Christianity among the spiritual descendants of the Jerusalem church. The author of Mark belonged to the Pauline faction, and slanted his narrative accordingly.

Jesus came as Passover Lamb

 

[IBDaMann]

This is you wandering through life.

Liberalism has nothing to do with abortion.

Liberalism is the empowerment to take a life, and for women, liberalism is the empowerment to take the lie of your own child.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

Jesus came as Passover Lamb

No human sacrifices ever in Judaism , that is a pagan thing

No one can die for another's sins

The Jewish Messiah (Moshiach) is a future human leader, a descendant of King David, who will usher in an era of global peace, justice, and spiritual perfection by rebuilding the Temple, gathering the Jewish people to Israel, and revealing God's presence to the world, acting as a great teacher and ruler, not a divine being, but a human king who redeems the world from suffering and exile.

 

[IBDaMann]

Why are 99.99% of liberal political ads about abortion?

Liberalism is all about abortion. Eventually, liberalism will evolve into obligating the father to fund the abortions selected by the mother and as charged by the killer-doctor.