Post the declaration of a National Disaster it was the very responsibility of the feds to perform by any means necessary. Claiming otherwise is dereliction by any definition.
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Post the declaration of a National Disaster it was the very responsibility of the feds to perform by any means necessary. Claiming otherwise is dereliction by any definition.
apple0154
MEOW
Good point. That's another possible use for the troops instead of them being half way across the world.
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Whether they were available or not is debatable. Whether they could have been mobilized and sent in, without training, and not have mucked up the works is just as debatable. The company I work for has vast experience working the aftermath of storms, and they had difficulty getting things done in that part of Louisiana in the first few weeks after Katrina.
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That sounds very compassionate. But it is also illegal.
And there is a little more to it than "...rescuing people standing on the roof of their home.". Remember, for every person who has to be trained in flood rescue, there will be a person who is training them instead of being out rescuing people. During the crisis is not the time to be sending in people who have no clue what to do. Also, the bulk of the focus was on the looting and shooting in New Orleans. that is where the LA Nat'l Guard was focused and why they were not put under federal control, so they could assist in law enforcement.
It is not and was not illegal. Your misunderstanding of the federal protocol in this instance is astounding. Get yourself an education and rejoin the conversation, please!!!!!!
apple0154
MEOW
In some cases it was just a matter of a guy in a motor boat or row boat rescuing people. Maybe use hydro planes.
Military helicopters could have rescued people who were standing on the roof of their home. They could have dropped food and water at central locations.
Regardless of how overall successful it would have been more people would have been saved. The point being the use of the military protecting people in Afghanstan and occupied elsewhere when US citizens are dying here. People are paying taxes for the military and they aren't here where they should be helping US citizens.
When some folks look at Obama and criticize his decision to remove troops from some foreign countries they fail to realize the troops can be used here.
If the troops can be called out to quell riots or attack and kill protesting students at a university they can damned well for certain be utilized for rescue operations in a Presidentially declared national disaster.
canceled.2021.1
#AMERICAISDEAD
So if OWEdummy loans Solyndra and Government Motors billions and the tax payers get stiffed do the taxpayers deserve the inevitable default?
In short, yes. But what is so inevitable? You are a huge bore and an idiot.
canceled.2021.1
#AMERICAISDEAD
Again. If the people had evacuated like they were told there would have been no need to be rescued. I lived in New Orleans. I evacuated. No problem.
Mr Miaggi summed it up perfectly when he said "best defense, no be there"
If people really think the role of the US military is to help during natural disasters then we truly are fucked as a country.
Mr Miaggi summed it up perfectly when he said "best defense, no be there"
If people really think the role of the US military is to help during natural disasters then we truly are fucked as a country.
canceled.2021.1
#AMERICAISDEAD
Yet you keep responding. So what does that say about you?
I have more tolerance for very boring people than most here and I find toying with your stupid ass at least mildly entertaining. You are certainly all the idiot that I suspected.
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Darla
It is alias. There is no doubt. Alias was permabanned and should not be posting here under any name. But he is.
Exactly!!!!!!!
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
no, Legion is, among others, the poster who's name looks like a badly combed crewcut......definitely not before you came along, though coincidentally seldom WHILE you are here.......
Billy the Great Khan
Uwaa OmO
Which is why I asked a question. You chose not answer. In fact you still have not given an answer.
Billy the Great Khan
Uwaa OmO
Yeah, all those air craft mechanics and admin clerks (the two largest MOS's) know a lot about disaster relief. And your average grunt, trained solely in killing people, would be great at engineering temporary levies and pumping out flood water.
Perhaps you'd like to rethink your delusional fantasy world.
Billy the Great Khan
Uwaa OmO
Ok Apple, let's imagine that there ARE 250,000 who would possibly be useful. Can you possibly imagine the logistical effort required to mobilize, and then support, that many people at a military level? It takes MONTHS to prepare deployments 1/10 of that size.
It's not a matter of 'paid into the system' it's a matter of being part of a whole, so yeah.. I could survive, probably as well if not better than many. Liberal I may be, but I also hunt, can clean my kill, use it,cook it and live off it for as long as I need to, and not just with a gun either, bows,gigs,traps and even a slingshot.I can fish,garden and scavenge the local herbs (hey now) as well. Not too mention set up a primitive 'drinkable water'/cooling and latrine system and even cook with nothing but homemade sun-oven.. and if someone is hurt, I can suture too...Yeah, I'm that girl!
But even after having to do all of that, and btw if I did, the end of the world would be upon us and not just a natural disaster.. I would still be expecting the help of my country.. we're part of a whole.... expecting help is normal.. Those 'poor saps' had every right to expect help... it was a hurricane, not the zombie-apocalypse..nor was it Capt Trips or alien invasion...It was a hurricane. I live on the east coast of Florida, trust me when I tell you, I'm hurricane ready. But even after 21 days of no power,gas,open stores and being hit by 2 hurricanes within 10miles and 2 weeks of each other.. I still expect my government to come in and do it's job.. and I wasn't disappointed. Within hours we had 'watering/cooling' stations all around since it's pretty fucking hot in FL especially after a storm..
Katrina was a personnel problem.. a lack of leadership from Bush on down.. FLA had the smart Bush, he didn't fuck around. I can't say much for the guy, but he was on the ball when it came to hurricanes and disaster..Unlike his brother who decided to put a horse-judge in charge of FEMA.. I mean hey, how different can it be. right?
Not too mention the inept Governor who didn't know she was in over her head..But it's this bullshit idea from 'survivalists' that it's somehow naive to expect the United States to actually ya know, help it's citizens who are in a massive crisis, is what I have a problem with when it comes to you guys. Because it's more like you're hoping for the very scenario you're so prepared for just to 'thin out the herd' and 'weed out the government'.. or test out your knowledge or something.. Try being a part of the whole for once, it's not hard. The whole is what got you where you are today and gave you the power to shit all over and look down your nose at it...running around screaming 'the gobblement isn't going to help you, the gobblement is going to take all your money and collapse' isn't being a solution, it's being the problem.. As prepared as you think you are, you'd shit yourself and weep for comfort if tomorrow the gov't did what you portend.. because even now, even under Obama, you rely on it and expect it to be there when you need it and it doesn't make you a 'poor sap', it makes you part of civilization dude....