Why should Illegals (Undocumented for the PC) get citizenship?

Yeah, you're right; because it's really just black and white and we should just allow the illegal immigration to continue.
Remove the border patrols, which will save money, close all our deportation centers and allow them to go where they want.

I mean, hell what problems could this possibly cause.
Right??

Are pretending to be dense??

There is a problem, deporting 12 million ppl & spending billions on a show wall isn't the answer.............
 
Are pretending to be dense??

There is a problem, deporting 12 million ppl & spending billions on a show wall isn't the answer.............


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight and we should just wait, give amnesty again, and then every few years, just repeat the process. :good4u:
 
Are pretending to be dense??

There is a problem, deporting 12 million ppl & spending billions on a show wall isn't the answer.............

Deporting all illegals then spending money on armed guards at the border is the answer. With a wall, they can continue to climb and climb and climb. With armed guards, one illegal crossing is the only one.
 
They increased proportional to inflation and basic cost of living? You are a lying fuck using bullshit numbers and skewed statistics. Real wages have dramatically decreased for the avg. American worker.

People like Hasa constantly argue that REAL wages has decreased over the past 30 years. Suddenly, they say wages are good.
 
What is Aleppo? I'm campaigning as the smart guy in the room, yet I have to clue as to what the largest city in Syria (the site of the largest world civil war and the home turf to ISIS) is.

This is you admitting that you were talking out your ass on the economics and are now trying to change the subject.

Apparently, you did not read the correction from the "Syrian experts" at the NY Times. ISIS is centered in Raqqa not Aleppo.

http://www.salon.com/2016/09/08/med...s-but-they-try-to-explain-it-to-gary-johnson/

Media and pundits don’t know what Aleppo is, but they try to explain it to Gary Johnson

No one knows what Aleppo is, apparently.


Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson faced a firestorm after an MSNBC interview on Thursday.


“What is Aleppo?” the former Republican governor said, when asked about the embattled Syrian city.


Johnson was immediately taken to task for his ignorance. Yet the media and former U.S. diplomats trying to correct him did not do much better.


The U.S. newspaper of record, the former U.S. ambassador to Iraq and the longest-serving U.S. spokesperson at the United Nations all falsely identified Aleppo as an ISIS hub.


In its report on Johnson’s gaffe, The New York Times incorrectly described Aleppo as “the de facto capital” of ISIS. The actual de facto capital of ISIS is Raqqa, which is east of Aleppo.

Then in an update, Times reporter Alan Rappeport instead described Aleppo as “a stronghold of the Islamic State,” before, in yet another correction, simply calling it a “war-torn Syrian city.”


That’s not all. When the Times updated an editor’s note at the bottom of the article acknowledging the correction, it incorrectly described Aleppo as “the Syrian capital.” Aleppo is not Syria’s capital; Damascus is. Aleppo was the largest city in Syria before the destructive war began but not the capital.


Yet wait, there’s more: After this third error was pointed out on social media, the Times issued a correction to its correction.

The website NewsDiffs, which monitors changes in news stories, showed there were five revisions to the Times story from 9:18 a.m. to 12:18 p.m. EST.


In its report, the Times noted that the phrase #WhatIsAleppo was trending on Twitter — but it was unable to answer the question itself.


After Johnson’s blunder, a slew of cocksure pundits also took to the media to try to correct him — and utterly failed as well.


Christopher Hill, the former U.S. ambassador to Iraq, went on MSNBC to set things straight, making a complete fool of himself in the process.


Hill arrogantly disparaged Johnson, while incorrectly describing Aleppo as the “capital of ISIS.”


“I’m still trying to get my mind around that one,” he said of the libertarian presidential candidate’s ignorance. “You know, in foreign affairs there’s a lot of inside baseball that I don’t expect people to understand or follow.”

“But the capital of ISIS — very much in the news, especially in the past two days, but for last two years. And for him to draw that kind of blank — and, by the way, boy was that a blank stare on his face. I was wondering if he was talking about something called ‘an Aleppo,’ and was confused by that. I couldn’t figure it out. It was just mind-blowing,” Hill continued patronizingly.


“I don’t know where he will have peaked in the polls, but I think he will now be known as ‘Aleppo Johnson,’ and that may be the end of their bid,” the former U.S. ambassador to Iraq concluded.


He was not the only U.S. diplomat to mistakenly associate Aleppo with ISIS.


Richard Grenell, formerly the longest-serving U.S. spokesperson at the United Nations, also incorrectly implied that Aleppo is controlled by ISIS.


“Everyone knows where Aleppo is. . . . It’s the city Obama ignores,” he tweeted, adding the hashtag “#ISISgrowing.”

Grenell, who has also become a prominent pundit, served as the national security spokesman for Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign.


Aleppo (known in Arabic as Halab) has since 2012 been a site of intense fighting between rebels and the Syrian government. The eastern part of the city is controlled by mostly Islamist rebels; the western part is controlled by the government.


In August a rebel alliance led primarily by Syria’s al-Qaeda affiliate, Jabhat al-Nusra (which has since rebranded itself as Jabhat Fatah al-Sham), broke the government’s siege of the city.


The Pentagon opposes arming rebels in Aleppo, as most are linked to al-Qaeda and other extremist Salafi groups, but the CIA supports them.


ISIS does have influence in the Aleppo governorate — the most highly populated governorate in Syria before the war — but not in the city of Aleppo.


Media outlets and pundits insisted Johnson’s gaffe may jeopardize his presidential run. Does this mean their utter ignorance of basic facts about the ongoing U.S.-backed war in Syria will jeopardize their jobs?
 
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Apparently, you did not read the correction from the "Syrian experts" at the NY Times. ISIS is centered in Raqqa not Aleppo.

well there you have it......Johnson is obviously a brilliant man because when he was asked about Aleppo he said "don't you realize the center of ISIS' power is actually Raqqa?".......
 
Do you think amnesty means citizenship? Is this how you guys are redefining it so that Trump is not supporting amnesty?
No, we're saying amnesty forges a much easier path to citizenship, and it sure as hell grants babies of illegals automatic citizenship.

You know all this stuff, tree hugger, so why are you trying to leave the flood gates open to give illegals citizenship?
 
Stand Up to the Fast-Talking Traitors and They Will Stand Down

Yeah, you're right; because it's really just black and white and we should just allow the illegal immigration to continue.
Remove the border patrols, which will save money, close all our deportation centers and allow them to go where they want.

I mean, hell what problems could this possibly cause.
Right??

Xenophiles are using the "Too Big to Fail" extortionist phrase about this nomadic invasion of Third World rats.
 
No, we're saying amnesty forges a much easier path to citizenship, and it sure as hell grants babies of illegals automatic citizenship.

It sure as hell does not. Their children born here will be citizens whether they have amnesty or not.

You know all this stuff, tree hugger, so why are you trying to leave the flood gates open to give illegals citizenship?

I don't know any of the things you mistakenly think you know. I mean, I did not know the mistaken belief of yours that I corrected above. How could I?
 
But why do you perverts support amnesty for lawbreakers? Do you have any idea? I've wondered the same thing.

Perhaps you need to channel you inner Reagan... Get in the lotus position, or something you are probably more familiar w/, the fetal position & ask him..HHHHmmmmmm
 
Or even legal status? Talk about the epitomy of entitlement. I break into your country, I disrespect your laws, I literally pay a smuggler to get me in, or just climb your fence. I don't bother learning your language or customs. I recruit my family and extended family to join me. I send almost all the money I make back to Mexico/SA, I don't pay any of your silly taxes. But guess what? NOW I WANT TO VOTE in your land! I want full citizenship! I want amnesty given for my crimes. ANd I want welfare and HC and all the benefits you get!

And libtards think this is fair?

The liberal media is going hysterical because trump wants deportation and border security first. No amnesty. But it got me thinking. Why do they HAVE, to have amnesty? WHere it it written, that if a person breaks into your country they ought to be automatically rewarded with citizenship? Is this not moronic?

So tell me again, why do they HAVE TO GET amnesty/citizenship? WHY?

More ignorance of, and contempt for, the Constitution, its case law, and the rule of law from the right.

Being undocumented has nothing to do with the myth of ‘political correctness,’ it’s an accurate term acknowledging the fact that one is not ‘illegal’ until such time as he has been found guilty in a court of law of entering the country absent authorization.

Those undocumented are entitled to a presumption of innocence and due process of law (Plyler v. Doe).

There are many who are undocumented who are entitled to refugee status pursuant to immigration law; those undocumented are allowed 30 days from entering the country to apply for refugee status, and are not ‘illegal’ pending the processing of that application.

Moreover, no one advocates for ‘amnesty’; comprehensive immigration reform legislation contains no provision for ‘amnesty,’ it meets due process requirements with regard to those undocumented, and subjects undocumented immigrants to punitive measures fitting with the crime they’ve committed.

The right’s unwarranted hostility toward those undocumented is yet another example of the ignorance, stupidity, fear, and bigotry common to far too many conservatives.
 
More ignorance of, and contempt for, the Constitution, its case law, and the rule of law from the right.

Being undocumented has nothing to do with the myth of ‘political correctness,’ it’s an accurate term acknowledging the fact that one is not ‘illegal’ until such time as he has been found guilty in a court of law of entering the country absent authorization.

Those undocumented are entitled to a presumption of innocence and due process of law (Plyler v. Doe).

There are many who are undocumented who are entitled to refugee status pursuant to immigration law; those undocumented are allowed 30 days from entering the country to apply for refugee status, and are not ‘illegal’ pending the processing of that application.

Moreover, no one advocates for ‘amnesty’; comprehensive immigration reform legislation contains no provision for ‘amnesty,’ it meets due process requirements with regard to those undocumented, and subjects undocumented immigrants to punitive measures fitting with the crime they’ve committed.

The right’s unwarranted hostility toward those undocumented is yet another example of the ignorance, stupidity, fear, and bigotry common to far too many conservatives.

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