Why should Illegals (Undocumented for the PC) get citizenship?

Capitalism Is Communism for the Rich

Irish said:
I'm confused, are you arguing in favor of low wages?
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I'm in favor of lower profits. The owners are like a car key, necessary to drive but not worth very much. The employees make the business run and create all the owners' wealth. All that is really owned is an empty workplace that is actually a liability until the workers show up. Capitalists should be called grassgrowers, using the example of team owners whose real property by itself would only produce the revenue from spectators who wanted to watch the grass grow.
 
The Sage of Main Street said:
I'm in favor of lower profits. The owners are like a car key, necessary to drive but not worth very much. The employees make the business run and create all the owners' wealth. All that is really owned is an empty workplace that is actually a liability until the workers show up. Capitalists should be called grassgrowers, using the example of team owners whose real property by itself would only produce the revenue from spectators who wanted to watch the grass grow.
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This is a pretty good troll. Impressive
 
Irish said:
Or even legal status? Talk about the epitomy of entitlement. I break into your country, I disrespect your laws, I literally pay a smuggler to get me in, or just climb your fence. I don't bother learning your language or customs. I recruit my family and extended family to join me. I send almost all the money I make back to Mexico/SA, I don't pay any of your silly taxes. But guess what? NOW I WANT TO VOTE in your land! I want full citizenship! I want amnesty given for my crimes. ANd I want welfare and HC and all the benefits you get!

And libtards think this is fair?

The liberal media is going hysterical because trump wants deportation and border security first. No amnesty. But it got me thinking. Why do they HAVE, to have amnesty? WHere it it written, that if a person breaks into your country they ought to be automatically rewarded with citizenship? Is this not moronic?

So tell me again, why do they HAVE TO GET amnesty/citizenship? WHY?
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They shouldn't, they need to be given the max sentence of 6 months then deported, and 2 years for every subsequent violation of US immigration law.


a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

Obama and the entire DOJ need to be arrested for aiding and abetting felons by refusing to enforce US Law though I would prefer arrest and execution for high treason.
 
Bill said:
How much will that cost us to keep them in jail??
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Less than it will cost the American worker in lost wages you POS. Let's see how many beaners hop the border when instead of air conditioned rides back to Mexico they land themselves in a forced labor camp for 2 years.
 
Face said:
Less than it will cost the American worker in lost wages you POS. Let's see how many beaners hop the border when instead of air conditioned rides back to Mexico they land themselves in a forced labor camp for 2 years.
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Is this what trumpf has in mind??
 
The Sage of Main Street said:
I'm in favor of lower profits. The owners are like a car key, necessary to drive but not worth very much. The employees make the business run and create all the owners' wealth. All that is really owned is an empty workplace that is actually a liability until the workers show up. Capitalists should be called grassgrowers, using the example of team owners whose real property by itself would only produce the revenue from spectators who wanted to watch the grass grow.
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you think like WM......you should get married.......he could have your children.......
 
The Sage of Main Street said:
I'm in favor of lower profits. The owners are like a car key, necessary to drive but not worth very much. The employees make the business run and create all the owners' wealth. All that is really owned is an empty workplace that is actually a liability until the workers show up. Capitalists should be called grassgrowers, using the example of team owners whose real property by itself would only produce the revenue from spectators who wanted to watch the grass grow.
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So I guess all the machinery, the building, markets, and other infrastructure just appear magically and require no monetary investment!! :palm:
 
Bill said:
How much will that cost us to keep them in jail??
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Should be let them run free and ignore that they committed a crime to get here?

Build a chain link fence with barbed wire, electrify it, and feed them bread/water. Pretty cheap compared to the drain they put on society.
 
Bill said:
Is this what trumpf has in mind??
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Oh you think that illegal alien felons should be treated better than US citizens? You do understand what a prison work camp is don't you you dumb fuck? Any Mexican illegally entering this country for a 2nd time should absolutely be placed into a prison work camp the same as anyother felon, that is not what Trump has in mind that is the fucking existing law which Obama and his DNC run DOJ does not enforce.
 
Face said:
Oh you think that illegal alien felons should be treated better than US citizens? You do understand what a prison work camp is don't you you dumb fuck? Any Mexican illegally entering this country for a 2nd time should absolutely be placed into a prison work camp the same as anyother felon, that is not what Trump has in mind that is the fucking existing law which Obama and his DNC run DOJ does not enforce.
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You really are a better person when you aren't drinking, you should think about cutting back or stopping...

So, again, is that what you believe trumpf is going to do?? Perhaps make them build the wall??
 
Doesn't existing law give lots of rights, appeals etc??

Will he need a fast track authority, or something to expedite the deportation of 11 million ppl??

While cutting taxes for the rich & increasing military spending dramatically??
 
Bill said:
Doesn't existing law give lots of rights, appeals etc??

Will he need a fast track authority, or something to expedite the deportation of 11 million ppl??

While cutting taxes for the rich & increasing military spending dramatically??
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Woah talk about your red herring. What does tax cuts and mil spending have to do with anything?
 
Bill said:
Doesn't existing law give lots of rights, appeals etc??

Will he need a fast track authority, or something to expedite the deportation of 11 million ppl??

While cutting taxes for the rich & increasing military spending dramatically??
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What are they going to appeal, that they're NOT illegally here?? :palm:
 
Bill said:
Doesn't existing law give lots of rights, appeals etc??
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Not for non-capital offenses, on what grounds can they appeal?

Will he need a fast track authority, or something to expedite the deportation of 11 million ppl??
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They are not going to be immediately deported, first they will be placed in prison work camps as the law demands then they will be deported.

While cutting taxes for the rich & increasing military spending dramatically??
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So, you're opposed to cutting taxes, a strong national defense, AND enforcing the law. Touche.
 
Interesting thread. Reagan came up earlier, you gotta give Ronnie and his administration credit, he did things no republican can do today and he is still their saint in shining armor. Look at how many times he raised taxes, and his immigration and Social Security help? Did the republican base forget all this? Who or what drugged them.

Illegals make up 3.5 percent of Americans, of that number how many work? That is, nanny rich kids, clean homes of the privileged, cut and groom their grass, pick blueberries and tomatoes in New Jersey or Cali fields, etc. Someone must hire them, you think? Anyone ever mention these illegal enabling people? Romney's not alone here. I know several, you guys need to move up the class ladder maybe. lol

So then ask yourself as you check your China made watch, while watching your Taiwanese made TV, as you think about getting a foreign company owned beer, and check yourself in your Ikea mirror, reviewing your Malaysian made clothing, as the kids put away their Chinese made Walmart toys, and you warm up or cool down your Japanese car (if upper class your BMW or Mercedes), and you think to yourself it's those darn illegals if it wasn't for them....

https://www.usamnesty.org
 
Taft2016 said:
Liberal rationale is incredible. You take something that has been tried and failed everywhere it's been tried... like universal health care for instance. Liberals we still say "We can do it!"

Then you take something that we've already done, like deport illegals en masse, and they'll say "It can't be done."

The problem has been that neither Democrats nor Establishment Republicans have an interest in preventing illegal immigration. I'm expect the results of this election to send them a loud message of how the American people feel about it.
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When did we deport 12 million people? It can't be done. It won't be done.
 
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