Why should Illegals (Undocumented for the PC) get citizenship?

Irish said:
Or even legal status? Talk about the epitomy of entitlement. I break into your country, I disrespect your laws, I literally pay a smuggler to get me in, or just climb your fence. I don't bother learning your language or customs. I recruit my family and extended family to join me. I send almost all the money I make back to Mexico/SA, I don't pay any of your silly taxes. But guess what? NOW I WANT TO VOTE in your land! I want full citizenship! I want amnesty given for my crimes. ANd I want welfare and HC and all the benefits you get!

And libtards think this is fair?
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I consider it racist myself.

It's a policy that favors a select group of Latinos that have access to sauntering across our border.

It's a policy detrimental to the legal immigration of others from Asia, sub-continental Asia, the Philippines, Africa, the Caribbean, etc.

Forget about Europeans. They're completely off the table.

I can't wait until this election year is over already. I've spoken to naturalized citizens here in NYC who are convinced Trump is going to deport them.

The level of ignorance is dispiriting.
 
Bill said:
Do you really think it will be/is that simple??
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Liberal rationale is incredible. You take something that has been tried and failed everywhere it's been tried... like universal health care for instance. Liberals we still say "We can do it!"

Then you take something that we've already done, like deport illegals en masse, and they'll say "It can't be done."

The problem has been that neither Democrats nor Establishment Republicans have an interest in preventing illegal immigration. I'm expect the results of this election to send them a loud message of how the American people feel about it.
 
tsuke said:
once you implement everify and make sure you punish the business owner and illegal yes. The inflationary stuff doesnt matter too. You have more income you get to spend more places you spend at hire more etc etc etc. too long to explain.

Anywhoo I just dont see how the minimum wage argument and moar illegalz argument go togheter.
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I think they are two separate issues as well..

Thus far they have been reluctant to go after many businesses doing the hiring..

Hell, they could fund a good portion of it by just fining homeDepot for every illegal found squatting on their private property parking lots waiting for a good American business man/women to hire them for the day, all cash of course... That includes the average joe's that bitch about the illegals & then on a Sat morning go hire one or two to do the yard work & fix the sprinklers while they go golfing...
 
Taft2016 said:
I consider it racist myself.

It's a policy that favors a select group of Latinos that have access to sauntering across our border.

It's a policy detrimental to the legal immigration of others from Asia, sub-continental Asia, the Philippines, Africa, the Caribbean, etc.

Forget about Europeans. They're completely off the table.

I can't wait until this election year is over already. I've spoken to naturalized citizens here in NYC who are convinced Trump is going to deport them.

The level of ignorance is dispiriting.
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I believe some of them should be scared...
 
Taft2016 said:
The problem has been that neither Democrats nor Establishment Republicans have an interest in preventing illegal immigration. I'm expect the results of this election to send them a loud message of how the American people feel about it.
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Agreed....

I recall about 5 years ago seeing a documentary on "the problem" & it featured a couple from Portugal & @ that point they had been on welfare for over 20 years, so that is over 25+ years @ this point, & the crux of the argument was that it would just be cruel to send them back after all this time...

IMHO if the don where elected these folks will have a lot to worry about.....
 
Bill said:
Agreed....

I recall about 5 years ago seeing a documentary on "the problem" & it featured a couple from Portugal & @ that point they had been on welfare for over 20 years, so that is over 25+ years @ this point, & the crux of the argument was that it would just be cruel to send them back after all this time...

IMHO if the don where elected these folks will have a lot to worry about.....
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Not if they're naturalized citizens.

I'm pretty sure I specified that. But let me check, and mmmmm, yeah. That's what I said.
 
Bill said:
Agreed....

I recall about 5 years ago seeing a documentary on "the problem" & it featured a couple from Portugal & @ that point they had been on welfare for over 20 years, so that is over 25+ years @ this point, & the crux of the argument was that it would just be cruel to send them back after all this time...

IMHO if the don where elected these folks will have a lot to worry about.....
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lets see.....they came here in violation of the law........they received money from the government for 25 years in violation of the law......but we shouldn't do anything about it because it wouldn't be fair?.......explain to me why these folks shouldn't be worrying, whether Don gets elected or not?......
 
Bill said:
Agreed....

I recall about 5 years ago seeing a documentary on "the problem" & it featured a couple from Portugal & @ that point they had been on welfare for over 20 years, so that is over 25+ years @ this point, & the crux of the argument was that it would just be cruel to send them back after all this time...

IMHO if the don where elected these folks will have a lot to worry about.....
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Yeah and we don't want to be cruel, now do we. :palm:
 
tsuke said:
Its because im nationalist so i take ideas from both sides. Im actually for increased minimum wage. Just not increased FEDERAL minimum wage. I think that idea is one of the dumbest one people came up with. To quote Trump the standards of living in new york and iowa are different. Something that will buy you a burger in new york will buy you a lot more in iowa.

I just cannot reconcile the support for illegal aliens and the argument that replacing them with Americans would increase the prices for everyone while at the same breath arguing that we should increase everyones wages across the board and this would not increaase the prices for everyone.

My ideal scenario is different minimum wages all across the country and protectionist policies so that instead of a NY or CA company outsourcing to India they would outsource to Alabama or Iowa creating a more equitable wealth distribution across the country.
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Yes we can't have good wages and cheap goods. One will have to give. But in the long run paying more for goods, while raising wages and standards of living will be fruitful in the future. Eventually it will outpace cots of goods.
 
Taft2016 said:
Liberal rationale is incredible. You take something that has been tried and failed everywhere it's been tried... like universal health care for instance. Liberals we still say "We can do it!"

Then you take something that we've already done, like deport illegals en masse, and they'll say "It can't be done."

The problem has been that neither Democrats nor Establishment Republicans have an interest in preventing illegal immigration. I'm expect the results of this election to send them a loud message of how the American people feel about it.
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I am convinced liberals aren't in the business of solving problems. THey are in the business of "feelings". Well it feels good to give everyone free welfare and universal HC so lets do it.

Some liberals are really anarchists that want the country brought down. This I have realized as well.
 
IrishRacist said:
I am convinced liberals aren't in the business of solving problems. THey are in the business of "feelings". Well it feels good to give everyone free welfare and universal HC so lets do it.

Some liberals are really anarchists that want the country brought down. This I have realized as well.
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That's how you "feel" about it.
 
Politics Is a Spitball Fight at a Prep School

Crooked ILLary said:
because the demalquedacrats need voters

they lost white voters and they kill black voters through abortion and drugs
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That's not logical. Illegals can't vote and they cause multiculties to lose votes. Liberals are agents of the Right Wing they were born in and went to school with. This is all about cheap labor for Low-IQ businessmen who are too incompetent to make a profit any other way.
 
The Gilded Need to Get Gelded

Irish said:
Yes we can't have good wages and cheap goods. One will have to give. But in the long run paying more for goods, while raising wages and standards of living will be fruitful in the future. Eventually it will outpace cost of goods.
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You're not thinking for yourself but are just parroting plutocratic parasites. An increase in wages will lead to a lowering of profits, not higher prices, unless we continue to let the rich feel entitled to pass on their costs in order to maintain their degenerate lifestyle.
 
The Sage of Main Street said:
You're not thinking for yourself but are just parroting plutocratic parasites. An increase in wages will lead to a lowering of profits, not higher prices, unless we continue to let the rich feel entitled to pass on their costs in order to maintain their degenerate lifestyle.
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I'm confused, are you arguing in favor of low wages?
 
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