Why Republicans are resorting to anti-socialism hysteria

[Into the Night]

If taxes aren't Socialism, Democrats aren't really Socialists.

Yes they are.

 

[BattleofHodow]

Yes they are.

How do you figure?

 

[Into the Night]

Rich people love to blame the poor for their own condition.

Even as the rich and powerful make all the major government decisions which affect the lives of the poor, they blame the poor for 'making bad decisions,' such as their education, who they marry, and whether or not and when to have children.

The rich simply do not have any idea what the mindset of being poor is like. When an individual is so poor that they don't know where their next meal is coming from that's all they are thinking about. There is no strategy for long term wealth management when there is no wealth to manage. The stream of consciousness is focused on how to get the next meal, period. It is coupled with a belief that the world has abandoned them or overlooked them, that they have no worth as a human being. There is no self esteem, no believe in ability to accomplish anything. These things come from previous success or being told by parents during a good healthy upbringing what is possible to achieve by striving for it with determination. That mindset does not exist in the chronically poor. It is about so much more than bad decision making.

Blaming the poor for their own condition is popular among the greedy rich who are looking for justification for cutting their own taxes to get even richer.

It is often because of bad decision making. Psychoquackery doesn't change that.

 

[Into the Night]

tariffs are a trade policy, oaf.

Nope. Tariffs are a tax.

 

[Into the Night]

corporations are used to protect and hide malfeasance. this is not anti trade, it's anti obfuscation.

Bigotry. Corporations are not formed for that purpose in all corporations, or even most of them. Malfeasance and prosecution against it pierces the corporate vale. Remember Enron?

 

[Monad Portal]

Nope. Tariffs are a tax.

no they're not. that's globalist horseshit.

 

[BattleofHodow]

It is often because of bad decision making. Psychoquackery doesn't change that.

Lol, my generation ( Millennials) are more likely to hold college degrees.

Yet, made 20% less than Boomers at the same even before this recent economic downturn.

That's because of limitations in the market.

Particularly a loss of union as well as competition of jobs with foreigners.

 

[Monad Portal]

Bigotry. Corporations are not formed for that purpose in all corporations, or even most of them. Malfeasance and prosecution against it pierces the corporate vale. Remember Enron?

stick it, fascist.

 

[Into the Night]

It's a form of Socialism. It often turns Fascist because the government needs to control the bulk of the population or faces being tossed out and the whole cabal brought down.

No. Fascism is a form of socialism where a government steals wealth through market manipulations and oppressive regulations against business and property owners. Communism is where the government steals the wealth by stealing the property or business itself.

That's why Communism ends up a dictatorship.

Both communism and fascism can be implemented with an oligarchy or with a dictatorship. An oligarchy is simply a government dictatorship by committee...the so-called 'elite'.

It can't work on the macro scale otherwise.

It can't work. Sooner or later, socialism runs out of people to steal from. It then collapses.

You can't have people objecting to it or working outside of the system.

True. This is why it must be implemented by oligarchy or dictatorship. People don't like their wealth stolen.

The latter is one of the usual unintended consequences of such economic systems. People begin to find ways to evade paying taxes, fees, and such. In Europe tax cheating is a national pastime. In the most Socialist countries like, Spain, Italy, or Greece, tax cheating is universal and rampant.

More than tax cheating! People will do almost any kind of 'cheating' to revolt again oppression like this.

In the Soviet Union, the black market was rampant and often outperformed the legal economy.

The free market is immortal. It will always be, even in the most oppressed nations. No government can kill it. In the U.S., it's the War on Drugs. People can easily get their drugs. The government really has no say about it. Prohibition failed too for the same reasons. All such prohibitions do is fund organized crime.

Those big black marketers went legit when the Soviet Union fell and became oligarchs and billionaires in many cases.

Nope. They aren't government. An oligarchy is a form of government.

The same would happen here with rampant Socialism, in whatever form it took.

We already have oligarchs in the United States, implementing fascism where they exist. Examples are the Federal Reserve, the NEA, the EPA, the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), etc. These are each unconstitutional. The federal government has no authority there.

It's already bad in states like New York or California where tax cheats and work-arounds to avoid regulation are the norm.

I no longer consider California a State. I call it the (Socialist Oligarchy of the Territory of California) SOTC now. They no longer honor the Constitution of the United States nor the constitution of the State of California. In my opinion, we should build a wall around California similar to the wall along the Mexican border and require any leaving or fleeing the SOTC and re-entering the United States to go through proper vetting and immigration.

Since King Newsom has banned gasoline and diesel engines, all trade with the SOTC should cease. NO truck shipments into or out of the SOTC, No trains, no aircraft or airline service, no ships call on their ports, no selling electricity or water to them anymore, NOTHING. They can try fending for themselves.

 

[Into the Night]

additiionally, corporations give moral cover to people doing bad things in the name of almighty profit.

Criminal acts in corporations do not protect the officers of that corporation. Bigotry. Not all corporations are immoral or committing crimes. Most don't.

 

[Into the Night]

How do you figure?

Taxes are not socialism. How else can I say it?

 

[Into the Night]

no they're not. that's globalist horseshit.

Nope. Tariffs are a tax.

 

[Into the Night]

no they're not. that's globalist horseshit.

Nope. Tariffs are a tax. Tariffs are anti-globalism.

 

[Into the Night]

Lol, my generation ( Millennials) are more likely to hold college degrees.

Meaning nothing.

Yet, made 20% less than Boomers at the same even before this recent economic downturn.

You have less experience. Experience is worth something.

That's because of limitations in the market.

Nope. Prices are set by the market. If you feel you aren't paid enough, find a way to be worth something to someone.

Particularly a loss of union as well as competition of jobs with foreigners.

So...you're a whiner. You aren't any better than a foreigner at your job?

 

[Into the Night]

stick it, fascist.

I am a capitalist, not a socialist.

 

[BattleofHodow]

Meaning nothing.

You have less experience. Experience is worth something.

Nope. Prices are set by the market. If you feel you aren't paid enough, find a way to be worth something to someone.

So...you're a whiner. You aren't any better than a foreigner at your job?

Lol, what a patriot, siding with the foreigners who undermine wages & jobs for AMERICANS.

Millennials at the same age make less than Boomers had, despite Millennials being better educated.

So, this nonsense about choices is crock.

Because people are bound to the limitations of the market.

 

[CFM]

Taxes are not socialism. How else can I say it?

It's what the taxes are used to fund that make the determination. Taxes used to fund the things for which the federal government has a delegated authority (i.e. - military) are not. Taxes used to provide food, clothing, shelter, healthcare, etc. to people that don't pay the taxes that fund it and refuse to provide it to themselves are.

 

[CFM]

Lol, what a patriot, siding with the foreigners who undermine wages & jobs for AMERICANS.

Millennials at the same age make less than Boomers had, despite Millennials being better educated.

So, this nonsense about choices is crock.

Because people are bound to the limitations of the market.

If a foreigner is capable of undermining your wages, you're not worth hiring.

If you provide something people want, the market is endless, that is, if the government will get the fuck out of the way.

The difference between boomers and millennials is that the former didn't expect the government to provide things to them they knew they should be providing themselves, were willing to earn what they had, and didn't want to start out making what those having been in the workforce for years were making.

 

[BattleofHodow]

If a foreigner is capable of undermining your wages, you're not worth hiring.

If you provide something people want, the market is endless, that is, if the government will get the fuck out of the way.

The difference between boomers and millennials is that the former didn't expect the government to provide things to them they knew they should be providing themselves, were willing to earn what they had, and didn't want to start out making what those having been in the workforce for years were making.

Foreigners are undermining wages left & right.

Why? Because Boomer Capitalists are greedy scum.

No generation fcked things up quite like Boomers.

 

[Bulletbob]

Trump is the most Socialist president in USA history.

O my thats a good one lol