Why People Move Away from Organized Religion

BidenPresident said:
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I am responding to you in a public forum. That's what this site is for. You are free to put me on ignore if you don't want to read my posts. No one makes you reply to me.
 
BidenPresident said:
Why People Move Away from Organized Religion
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It could be argued people are moving away from all civic organizations, including religious ones. Putnam wrote "Bowling Alone" back in 2000 about the change in society. He pointed out that more people were bowling than ever before, but fewer people were bowling in leagues.

He only blamed the suburbs a bit, but I blame them more. The suburbs seem calculated to cut us off from each other. It is worse in rural areas, where people used to try to connect with others in church, because they had no other way. These days, people can connect through TV, or more and more over the internet. It is a disconnected sort of connection.
 
bowling alone.

wow.

sounds like a novel about suicide.

Im so sad now.

I mean like.....

you bowl a strike and nobody cares.
 
I suppose people eventually see religions are about money and power. Those on top, claiming a connection to god, live like kings while they collect an enormous bounty from the poor. Evangelicals pleading for special funds for a new jet should have repulsed people. They tell you to care about the poor as they get richer and richer. It is all a scam.
Nobody knows any more about god than you do. You also know nothing about it. Religious teaching adapts to the times and finds where the money is. In America, it is in politics and the Republican pretenders.
 
Walt said:
It could be argued people are moving away from all civic organizations, including religious ones. Putnam wrote "Bowling Alone" back in 2000 about the change in society. He pointed out that more people were bowling than ever before, but fewer people were bowling in leagues.

He only blamed the suburbs a bit, but I blame them more. The suburbs seem calculated to cut us off from each other. It is worse in rural areas, where people used to try to connect with others in church, because they had no other way. These days, people can connect through TV, or more and more over the internet. It is a disconnected sort of connection.
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Or they get tired of right wing crooks like Trump and Pence claiming to be Christian.
 
Nordberg said:
I suppose people eventually see religions are about money and power. Those on top, claiming a connection to god, live like kings while they collect an enormous bounty from the poor. Evangelicals pleading for special funds for a new jet should have repulsed people. They tell you to care about the poor as they get richer and richer. It is all a scam.
Nobody knows any more about god than you do. You also know nothing about it. Religious teaching adapts to the times and finds where the money is. In America, it is in politics and the Republican pretenders.
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Pat Robertson is a recent example. Was he a fraud? No, he really believed god wants America to be right wing.
 
JesusAI said:
bowling alone.

wow.

sounds like a novel about suicide.

Im so sad now.

I mean like.....

you bowl a strike and nobody cares.
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Funny you would mention that. The suicide rate for people disconnected from society has shot up. It is one of the things killing off the right wing.
 
BidenPresident said:
Or they get tired of right wing crooks like Trump and Pence claiming to be Christian.
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I find that fervent Christians who do not attend a church tend to lack introspection. They see whatever they do as Christian, and anyone who disagrees with them as anti-Christian. trump is an extreme example of this.
 
Walt said:
I find that fervent Christians who do not attend a church tend to lack introspection. They see whatever they do as Christian, and anyone who disagrees with them as anti-Christian. trump is an extreme example of this.
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The people who say "I know I am saved" think they can do no wrong.
 
Why would a younger person be drawn to Christianity in 2023?

It's supposed to be a religion about love & kindness - and its most vocal proponents are all about hate and intolerance.
 
Walt said:
I reassure you that suicide is one of the main types of deaths of despair. I am not sure why Republican defend their own deaths so much.
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that has nothing to do with all the winningness in the gop right now.

you can't stop trump.

and you can't stop people from loving trump.

neither can assclown desantis, who's already out of the race for using deep fakes of trump.
 
BidenPresident said:
Some scholars, like David Campbell, Geoffrey Layman and John Green in their book “Secular Surge,” have come up with new language to distinguish Americans by their beliefs, sorting us into four groupings: religionists, non-religionists, secularists and religious secularists.

Religionists are people who are “highly religious and don’t have much secularism in their lives.”
Non-religionists aren’t affirmatively secular, they just don’t have much of a religious worldview. “They haven’t really thought about truth, meaning, etc.,” he said. Secularists “have determined that they find truth in philosophy and science and sources like that, and not from religious texts.”
And religious secularists “see the world through a secular lens, but they also have a foot in a religious community.” They have “found a way to accommodate both ways of seeing the world.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/07/opinion/religion-nones.html
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Wrong, as always.

Statistically speaking, the Church has grown, keeping pace with and even exceeding overall world population growth. The total number of Catholics worldwide grew from ​​1.253 billion in 2013 to 1.378 billion in 2021, an increase of nearly 10%.

https://www.catholicworldreport.com...ing, the Church has,an increase of nearly 10%.





*In the US, as well:



U.S. Catholic population shows growth, trends southward


https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/252998/us-catholic-population-shows-growth-trends-southward
 
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