Why not just let it fail?

Getin the ring said:
And dumbass gets a new member ^^^^

so 8 years of nothing, letting Obamcare just sink into disaster, but give them back power and they will fix it?

this is like watching sesame street and we found our big bird
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The Republicans blocked every effort to fix the problems... you know that, they said Repeal or No Dice.
 
LuvTrump said:
We just had a historic election that was nothing if not a national referendum on Obamacare. Republicans have to do a much, much better job explaining their replacement plan and provide Americans with better and cheaper options.

But liberals have to get over themselves and acknowledge that Obamacare is long past fixable.

Cynthia Cox of the Kaiser Family Foundation, a supporter of Obamacare glumly told Business Insider after the BCBS retreat from the exchange markets: “If the BCBS plans or Anthem pull out of the exchanges, then that would be a serious problem for many parts of the country. Whenever there is one insurance company right now, it almost always is either a BCBS or Anthem plan. It goes to show how much the exchanges rely on those plans.”

Those plans won’t be viable much longer. Here’s a prediction: by the end of the year we could have nearly half the country without insurers if this spiral continues.

What we have here is the domestic policy equivalent to the Bay of Pigs.

And make no mistake about it: This calamity is Obama’s legacy, not Trump’s.



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/28/obamacare-failure-not-caused-by-trump/
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The TrumpCare that just failed in the Senate... was a fix, it was repeal, then reenact with only a few changes.
 
tsuke said:
i think people need to be hit with the cadillac tax first. a lot of people will fall under having a 10800 yearly premium. Thats a 40% increase potentially.
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Why does you Hero not fix Obamacare? Rump said it would be easy and done on day one, and cover everyone for cheaper.... and better?
 
Jarod said:
t is succeeding in most parts of the nation and going strong.
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ORLY?

As of now, over 1,200 counties will have only one insurance provider available on the individual market next year, and 35,000 individuals will live in counties with no options available at all. These numbers are expected to increase as insurers finalize their 2018 plans.

Liberals often accuse the GOP of intentional sabotage, but premiums were increasing and insurers were fleeing long before the GOP victories of last November.

Republican messaging to date has focused only on the collapsing marketplace; it must also emphasize that Democrats have done nothing to improve Obamacare.

The reform conversation has been framed as a decision to cut coverage and reduce benefits, but what most on the left leave out is that the biggest driver of reduced insurance coverage is cost.

A report issued by the Department of Health and Human Services showed that premiums have increased 105 percent since the implementation of the ACA.

Average monthly premiums in the 39 states using HealthCare.gov (the federal health-insurance exchange) increased from $232 in 2013 to $476 in 2017.

In 24 of those states, premiums have doubled since the implementation of the ACA.

Another report, released by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), showed that 2 million people have dropped individual-market insurance coverage since January. Of those people, 46 percent cited lack of affordability as their reason for canceling their plans.



http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448897/obamacare-failure-gop-must-fix
 
Jarod said:
NO, we find new stuff daily on the Russia deal. They were lying when they said they never met with the Russians.
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Blah, blah. I don't care, and neither do most Republicans. But by all means, keep chasing your own tail.
 
LuvTrump said:
ORLY?

As of now, over 1,200 counties will have only one insurance provider available on the individual market next year, and 35,000 individuals will live in counties with no options available at all. These numbers are expected to increase as insurers finalize their 2018 plans.

Liberals often accuse the GOP of intentional sabotage, but premiums were increasing and insurers were fleeing long before the GOP victories of last November.

Republican messaging to date has focused only on the collapsing marketplace; it must also emphasize that Democrats have done nothing to improve Obamacare.

The reform conversation has been framed as a decision to cut coverage and reduce benefits, but what most on the left leave out is that the biggest driver of reduced insurance coverage is cost.

A report issued by the Department of Health and Human Services showed that premiums have increased 105 percent since the implementation of the ACA.

Average monthly premiums in the 39 states using HealthCare.gov (the federal health-insurance exchange) increased from $232 in 2013 to $476 in 2017.

In 24 of those states, premiums have doubled since the implementation of the ACA.

Another report, released by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), showed that 2 million people have dropped individual-market insurance coverage since January. Of those people, 46 percent cited lack of affordability as their reason for canceling their plans.



http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448897/obamacare-failure-gop-must-fix
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The National Review is fake news and filled with lies, come up with a different source and we can discuss it.
 
Jarod said:
Obama care needs to be redone, fixed, changed around the edges, even Obama says that, but the Republican Party who is now in charge can't do it.
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Wait a minute.

I was preaching that in 2009. Change health insurance around the edges, please, don't do the major overhaul because it's going to be a disaster.

And now you guys want to tweak it all of a sudden? You shouldn't be allowed to discuss it.
 
LuvTrump said:
Blah, blah. I don't care, and neither do most Republicans. But by all means, keep chasing your own tail.
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I dont care about the Republicans... most of them would not care if Rump took a shit on the desk in the oval office on national television.

I care about the independents.
 
Darth Omar said:
Wait a minute.

I was preaching that in 2009. Change health insurance around the edges, please, don't do the major overhaul because it's going to be a disaster.

And now you guys want to tweak it all of a sudden? You shouldn't be allowed to discuss it.
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We needed major change in 09' now we only need small tweeks. The basic format of Obamacare is working.
 
Jarod said:
The National Review is fake news and filled with lies, come up with a different source and we can discuss it.
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LOL, you have no proof of your claim.

The article I cited quotes reports by DHHS and CMS.

Let's see your proof that Obamacare is a success, or admit you were lying.
 
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