Why no "tea" Parties under Bush?

Damocles said:
I've already told you that I think that the final push is partisan, they are sick and tired of even their own party not listening, they helped ensure by not voting that they would lose office and now they seek to limit damage. However, the T.E.A. Parties are about more than just that.

Again (as I said more Obamalzheimer's disease), it is false to assume that absolutely no protests happened with Bush in office from these same people and even gave examples of them.
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Harassing the elderly huh?

Wisdom is seldom found among the youth and is not assured among the elderly.
 
Damocles said:
I've already told you that I think that the final push is partisan. However, the T.E.A. Parties are about more than just that.

Again (as I said more Obamalzheimer's disease), it is false to assume that absolutely no protests happened with Bush in office from these same people and even gave examples of them.
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Wait, I thought these people never protest. Isn't that why we should be so impressed with the modest crowds? (I know, I know. This is just the beginning. You just wait and see. They'll show me good.)

And these question, my friend was why none of these people protested when Bush was engaged in "generational theft." Not whether Bush was ever protested by anyone on the right about anything. No one is assuming anything. You're just making shit up.
 
uscitizen said:
Harassing the elderly huh?

Wisdom is seldom found among the youth and is not assured among the elderly.
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Unless you think Dung is "elderly", no. I'm pretty even about the idea of Obamalzheimer's disease.

It's the same disease that causes people who protested against wiretapping and people taken to prisons in Egypt, etc, but ignore it now.
 
Dungheap said:
Wait, I thought these people never protest. Isn't that why we should be so impressed with the modest crowds? (I know, I know. This is just the beginning. You just wait and see. They'll show me good.)

And these question, my friend was why none of these people protested when Bush was engaged in "generational theft." Not whether Bush was ever protested by anyone on the right about anything. No one is assuming anything. You're just making shit up.
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Again, more Obamalzheimer's disease. How did they protest those ones? Was it in the streets?

Your argument is weak, and denies recent history, and is a desperate attempt to generate a general dismissal. It isn't going to work.

The turnout was far more than the left expected, and less than the people who started them hoped for, and it was just a beginning.
 
Damocles said:
Again, more Obamalzheimer's disease. How did they protest those ones? Was it in the streets?

Your argument is weak, and denies recent history, and is a desperate attempt to generate a general dismissal. It isn't going to work.

The turnout was far more than the left expected, and less than the people who started them hoped for, and it was just a beginning.
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I guess I'll just wait patiently for an answer as to why these folks didn't protest Bush's "generational theft." I'm tired of reading your nonsense though.

And I'm sure the folks at FreedomWorks are pleased as punch with the outcome. They're sure to make money on it. And the clients of the lobbyist firms associated with Dick Armey and Ralph Reed love it when the little folk do their dirty work.
 
I still don't understand why 95 percent of those people are out there. Anyone making less than $250k is getting a tax CUT, yet they're out there railing against the socialist policy of brining the tax rate above that back to what it was under Clinton and still on average 10 points less than it was under Reagan.

It makes no fucking sense, but you can't say that's unusual for these people.
 
I apologize for asking this so late in the conversation when it probably has already been discussed multiple times but what was Bush's 'generational theft'?
 
Damocles said:
I've already told you that I think that the final push is partisan, they are sick and tired of even their own party not listening, they helped ensure by not voting that they would lose office and now they seek to limit damage. However, the T.E.A. Parties are about more than just that.

Again (as I said more Obamalzheimer's disease), it is false to assume that absolutely no protests happened with Bush in office from these same people and even gave examples of them.
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Dungheap said:
I guess I'll just wait patiently for an answer as to why these folks didn't protest Bush's "generational theft." I'm tired of reading your nonsense though.

And I'm sure the folks at FreedomWorks are pleased as punch with the outcome. They're sure to make money on it. And the clients of the lobbyist firms associated with Dick Armey and Ralph Reed love it when the little folk do their dirty work.
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I'm sure that your Obamalzheimer's is curable. It's been answered, at least what my opinion on this subject is. And I'm sure your cynicism doesn't change what actually happens. Even if Dick Armey and Ralph Reed started this, it doesn't change what is.
 
cawacko said:
I apologize for asking this so late in the conversation when it probably has already been discussed multiple times but what was Bush's 'generational theft'?
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We're talking about the Debt and how it will not be repaid for generations, thus pushing off payment for our own largesse to our grandchildren.

The US is once again at WWII levels of spending by percentage to GDP, and now set to be at that level permanently.

By contrast at the end of WWII, spending dropped from 22% to 15% in less than a year.
 
ib1yysguy said:
I still don't understand why 95 percent of those people are out there. Anyone making less than $250k is getting a tax CUT, yet they're out there railing against the socialist policy of brining the tax rate above that back to what it was under Clinton and still on average 10 points less than it was under Reagan.

It makes no fucking sense, but you can't say that's unusual for these people.
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so what do you feel people should pay in taxes? 90%....50%....

should the government be able to willy nilly raise taxes? in the 1800's when certain taxes were implemented, to raise revenue for the civil war for instance, those taxes were later repealed once the need for those taxes no longer existed. we live under a government now that if there is a tax raise, it almost never goes down. and when it does, it is almost always the republicans, if not soley, if you can show me a dem that lowered taxes, go for it.

do you disagree with the philosophy of our early government....that is....once the extra taxes are no longer needed, they should be repealed?

how big do you want our government to be, vis a vis, your money? how much do you want to give?
 
Yurt said:
so what do you feel people should pay in taxes? 90%....50%....

should the government be able to willy nilly raise taxes? in the 1800's when certain taxes were implemented, to raise revenue for the civil war for instance, those taxes were later repealed once the need for those taxes no longer existed. we live under a government now that if there is a tax raise, it almost never goes down. and when it does, it is almost always the republicans, if not soley, if you can show me a dem that lowered taxes, go for it.

do you disagree with the philosophy of our early government....that is....once the extra taxes are no longer needed, they should be repealed?

how big do you want our government to be, vis a vis, your money? how much do you want to give?
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Yeah, allow me to pick some arbitrary number for no real reason at all like you did and say that sounds good.

How about people should pay just enough taxes to support the programs Americans elected them to implement like health care and not a penny more.

Yurt, you don't make anywhere near $250,000 so you're getting a tax cut from Obama. Yet you were out there doing the rich guy's dirty work because you're a big, blunt, stupid tool.
 
Yurt said:
so what do you feel people should pay in taxes? 90%....50%....

should the government be able to willy nilly raise taxes? in the 1800's when certain taxes were implemented, to raise revenue for the civil war for instance, those taxes were later repealed once the need for those taxes no longer existed. we live under a government now that if there is a tax raise, it almost never goes down. and when it does, it is almost always the republicans, if not soley, if you can show me a dem that lowered taxes, go for it.

do you disagree with the philosophy of our early government....that is....once the extra taxes are no longer needed, they should be repealed?

how big do you want our government to be, vis a vis, your money? how much do you want to give?
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Study up on the whiskey tax and the whiskey rebellion.
 
Damocles said:
We're talking about the Debt and how it will not be repaid for generations, thus pushing off payment for our own largesse to our grandchildren.

The US is once again at WWII levels of spending by percentage to GDP, and now set to be at that level permanently.

By contrast at the end of WWII, spending dropped from 22% to 15% in less than a year.
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And peaked at 23.5% under Reagan in 1983.
 
usaloyal2theend said:
Bush is a coffee drinker you dork! :cof1:
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There is a lot of humor in uscitizen trying to call out others for hypocricy. But since I haven't followed all these tea party threads please tell me if I'm off base here or really missing something.

My sense is uscitizen and a few others are arguing that these tea party protests are being attended by a small fringe group of people.

Then I see uscitizen trying to call out all Republicans for being hypocrites because Bush got re-elected.

If I recall correctly Bush got some (as did Kerry) 50 plus million votes in 2004. And if I read correctly the number of people attending these tea parties was under 250K across the country. That is less than half a percent of those who voted for Bush.

So even going on the assumption that all who attended the Tea Parties were Bush voting Republicans dude is trying to call out hypocricy based on a number of people less than 50 basis points?
 
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