Why more and more experts say lockdown didn't prevent people dying of Covid

[Hawkeye10]

Bret and Heather were right about almost everything.

One of the few things they now know they got wrong is that for a long time they thought that masks were useful.

 

[Port Tack]

Two years ago, pretty much to the day, I was virtually alone in opposing the almost unanimous frenzy of fear and panic which strangled the economy, caused Mr Sunak to lose his head and spend billions he had not got and, of course, devastated the NHS.

I was called a number of rude names for this dissent and accused by some noisy 'patriot' of 'killing my own readers'.

I was falsely called a 'Covid-denier', a stupid insult. I never contested the existence or danger of the disease. I simply questioned whether it justified the extreme, unprecedented and dictatorial measures taken to combat it.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/...ITCHENS-stopped-Chancellor-two-years-ago.html

Un fucking believable! America has more dead in less than 2 years time than we lost in all of our civil war or WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan put together and we have idiots calling the wearing of a mask "extreme and dictatorial"? Most countries would have well over 90% vaccination rates and beg for the vaccine, not the U.S., we have a bunch of rightwing fucking morons afraid of the damn thing and would rather suffer the many "long covid" effects like brain damage.

I guess the forcing you to put on a seat belt when you get in a car is "extreme and dictatorial" too huh?

 

[Port Tack]

Correlation does not imply causation, now run along Forest

Denial does not mean it isn't the cause either you fucking moron. Yes, the spike in cases in places where precautions were dropped IS the likely reason for the spike.

 

[Port Tack]

New York is one of the most shut down States and Texas is one of the least shut down states. New York Covid death rate is 349 per 100K and Texas is 299 per 100K https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

It struck in NY first and before the vaccine so naturally their number is high. You didn't bother to mention the state with the largest number of deaths per 100,000? Mississippi, a state not hit hard early but jammed packed full of rightwing fucking inbred uneducated idiots afraid of a vaccine. Right up there with Alabama, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Arkansas, Tennessee and Louisiana, all packed with ignorant rightwingers and ALL with higher death rates than New York.

 

[Noking]

what a fucking idiot. all you have to do is see the spike in covid when cities and/or states stopped the lockdowns too early. good god, right wingers are so fucking stupid.

Florida is "not going back" on reopening, governor says - Axioshttps://www.axios.com › Health
Jun 30, 2020 — Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis told reporters on Tuesday that the state will not reinstate restrictions or close businesses to mitigate the ...

Florida's huge and growing Covid-19 outbreak, explained - Voxhttps://www.vox.com › future-perfect › florida-coronav...
Jul 17, 2020 — Florida now has the worst ongoing coronavirus outbreak in the country. Since the beginning of July, Covid-19 cases in the state have gone up ...

'We opened too quickly': Texas becomes a model for ...https://www.theguardian.com › us-news › jun › we-ope...
Jun 27, 2020 — State shuts down again after seven weeks with coronavirus cases soaring, after ignoring inconvenient data and fighting party-political turf ...

When you're intellectually constipated, you have no problems believing anything.

 

[Noking]

New York is one of the most shut down States and Texas is one of the least shut down states. New York Covid death rate is 349 per 100K and Texas is 299 per 100K https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

Is that your professional medical opinion, Doctor Expresslane?????????

 

[zymurgy]

Denial does not mean it isn't the cause either you fucking moron. Yes, the spike in cases in places where precautions were dropped IS the likely reason for the spike.

yawn.

another shit stain with a name change.. yippie kay ay

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Why more and more experts say lockdown didn't prevent people dying of Covid - and call it a 'monumental mistake on a global scale',

Dr Raghib Ali says that 'despite England having less stringent restrictions we've had, if anything, a slightly lower death rate [than in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland].'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...e-dying-Covid-say-growing-number-experts.html

Please stop using BAT-SHIT-CRAZY EXTREMIST RIGHT-WING FAKE-NEWS media sources for your references!

All you seem to be doing, in that, is preaching to your choir of TRUMPTARDED think a-likes and knuckle-draggers.

CAN YOU EVEN TRY TO BE non-partisan?

I doubt it!

 

[cancel2 2022]

Please stop using BAT-SHIT-CRAZY EXTREMIST RIGHT-WING FAKE-NEWS media sources for your references!

All you seem to be doing, in that, is preaching to your choir of TRUMPTARDED think a-likes and knuckle-draggers.

CAN YOU EVEN TRY TO BE non-partisan?

I doubt it!

It's clear that you didn't read the article, which is not surprising in the least.

While there is no doubt that robust measures were necessary against a new and devastating virus, was lockdown truly the only route through those dark days of the pandemic, or the right one?

For the past few weeks, in a series of reports probing the science that has underpinned key pandemic decisions, The Mail on Sunday has investigated the accuracy of PCR tests and the chaotic way Covid-related deaths were recorded.

Today, in the final part, we talk to the growing number of experts who say that lockdowns had little benefit – a cure that was worse than the disease.

One of them is Professor Mark Woolhouse, an epidemiologist at the University of Edinburgh, who has recently published a book, The Year The World Went Mad, about the UK's pandemic policy failures.

Speaking this week on The Mail on Sunday's Medical Minefield podcast, Prof Woolhouse said: 'I think that lockdown will be viewed by history as a monumental mistake on a global scale, for a number of reasons.

'The obvious one is the immense harm the lockdown, more than any other measure, did in terms of the economy, mental health and on the wellbeing of society.

'Clearly things needed to be done to bring waves of infection under control.

'But many analyses suggest that lockdown itself didn't have a huge impact on reducing the health burden. That was achieved in other ways.'

Analysing the effect of any single Covid measure is difficult, and researchers have managed it with varying degrees of success.

In the UK, 'lockdown' refers specifically to the stay-at-home order. But some studies also include school and border closures, business closures and curfews in their definition of lockdown.

And when all these measures are looked at together, they do indeed have an impact – reducing infection rates by up to 80 per cent.

One paper that did attempt to tease out the benefits of individual measures, published last month, found stay-at-home orders reduced global Covid deaths by just 2.9 per cent.

By comparison, business closures cut deaths by ten per cent and school closures by nearly five per cent.