Why Is It So Hard To Get Mentally Ill Into Treatment

cawacko said:
In California?

Really good article on three different bills attempting to address the issue. No easy answers when trying to decide between protecting their civil rights and being able to get needy people off the street. Not a sexy topic but anyone who has spent time in California knows how big an issue this is.


https://calmatters.org/articles/cal...rvatorship-law/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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I've long held the belief that homelessness is largely a mental health issue.
 
countryboy said:
I've long held the belief that homelessness is largely a mental health issue.
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A lot of it is where I live. The question is do we go back to the old days where you can lock the mentally ill up and almost go as far as throw away the key? Or where to draw the line.
 
"sanitariums /warehousing" were when people were thrown away into the system-
but that didn't mean the system was inherently bad. Many homeless now cannot cope for psychiatric or substance abuse.
They are essentially powerless on the street. and subject to crime.

The system needed reform, but we got hysterical [ like we always do ] and went from warehousing to a lack of long term psychiatric housing/services
 
cawacko said:
In California?

Really good article on three different bills attempting to address the issue. No easy answers when trying to decide between protecting their civil rights and being able to get needy people off the street. Not a sexy topic but anyone who has spent time in California knows how big an issue this is.


https://calmatters.org/articles/cal...rvatorship-law/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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Not just a California problem. Nationally the GOP's fingerprints are all over this one because they were pissed they didn't get to chop off the head of the man who shot their precious Ronnie Ray-Gun
 
Kacper said:
Not just a California problem. Nationally the GOP's fingerprints are all over this one because they were pissed they didn't get to chop off the head of the man who shot their precious Ronnie Ray-Gun
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Another mentally ill lib.
 
Kacper said:
Not just a California problem. Nationally the GOP's fingerprints are all over this one because they were pissed they didn't get to chop off the head of the man who shot their precious Ronnie Ray-Gun
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"On Feb. 5, 1963, 50 years ago this week, President John F. Kennedy addressed Congress on "Mental Illness and Mental Retardation." He proposed a new program under which the federal government would fund community mental-health centers, or CMHCs, to take the place of state mental hospitals. As Kennedy envisioned it, "reliance on the cold mercy of custodial isolations will be supplanted by the open warmth of community concern and capability."

President Kennedy's proposal was historic because the public care of mentally ill individuals had been exclusively a state responsibility for more than a century. The federal initiative encouraged the closing of state hospitals and aborted the development of state-funded outpatient clinics in process at that time. ... "

http://www.treatmentadvocacycenter....-fifty-years-of-failing-americas-mentally-ill

So much for liberal mythology :dunno:
 
Kacper said:
Not just a California problem. Nationally the GOP's fingerprints are all over this one because they were pissed they didn't get to chop off the head of the man who shot their precious Ronnie Ray-Gun
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I think perhaps the source of the problem is that there are too many demmycrat congress critters voted into office by people as stupid as you are.....
 
countryboy said:
I've long held the belief that homelessness is largely a mental health issue.
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In many cases, yes. Because we stopped 'wasting money' on the problem under Reagan, many who were hospitalized were put out on the streets.

Many ended up in jail, and many roamed the streets.

Capitalism at its best.
 
Althea said:
In many cases, yes. Because we stopped 'wasting money' on the problem under Reagan, many who were hospitalized were put out on the streets.

Many ended up in jail, and many roamed the streets.

Capitalism at its best.
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I know, it's always anybody but the Democrats fault. How do you live with being so perfect?

Soooooo, what have Dems done about the problem since Reagan? I mean, other than whine and do nothing.
 
Althea said:
In many cases, yes. Because we stopped 'wasting money' on the problem under Reagan, many who were hospitalized were put out on the streets.

Many ended up in jail, and many roamed the streets.

Capitalism at its best.
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Liberal mythology :palm:

It was JFK who pushed for, and signed the Community Mental Health Act into law.

Don't doubt me. :palm:
 
countryboy said:
I've long held the belief that homelessness is largely a mental health issue.
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It is, along with substance abuse.

"Mental illness affects a significant proportion of the homeless population. A study by the National Institute of Mental Health found that approximately 6% of Americans are severely mentally ill, compared to the 20-25% of the homeless population that suffers from severe mental illness. Furthermore, 45% of the homeless population shows history of mental illness diagnoses. "

https://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~hcht/blog/homelessness-and-mental-health-facts
 
So it seems the desire of most people is to go back to a time when people were all locked up. That is definitely a way to get them off the street.
 
countryboy said:
I know, it's always anybody but the Democrats fault. How do you live with being so perfect?

Soooooo, what have Dems done about the problem since Reagan? I mean, other than whine and do nothing.
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His response is just a virtue signal without actually stating what he would like to see done.
 
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