Why is Iran executing, kidnapping so many people?

moon said:
And 138 countries, representing most of the world's population, along with the United Nations and international and humanitarian law.



It's a natural justice and rule of law thing, maggot- far, far out and insignificant on your corporate horizon.



Still, you wanted comments on mad mullahs hanging the LGBT community from cranes. Utterly despicable, old chap. How many this week , was it ?
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Basically the million flies can't be wrong argument.
 
moon said:
And 138 countries, representing most of the world's population, along with the United Nations and international and humanitarian law.



It's a natural justice and rule of law thing, maggot- far, far out and insignificant on your corporate horizon.



Still, you wanted comments on mad mullahs hanging the LGBT community from cranes. Utterly despicable, old chap. How many this week , was it ?
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Most of those 138 countries are despotic dictatorships or have absolutely no skin in the game, eh Moonsh'ite!! Israel is recognised by 164 countries, stop with that bullshit trope you pull out of your arse when it suits.
 
Primavera said:
Most of those 138 countries are despotic dictatorships, eh Moonsh'ite!! Israel is recognised by 164, so fucking what?
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The law doesn't recognize Israel's position, maggot. As an accomplice that doesn't matter to you, does it.
 
Primavera said:
Stop moving the goalposts ffs, the fucking mullahs hang gays and dissidents slowly from mobile cranes. What civilised country does that, McMoonshi'ite?
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I ain't gonna say I'm mad at 'em about it. :dunno:

Iran was fairly tolerant of dissidents for a while there, what changed?
 
Matt Dillon said:
I ain't gonna say I'm mad at 'em about it. :dunno:

Iran was fairly tolerant of dissidents for a while there, what changed?
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Iran is under constant threat of attack by Israeli fascists. The fascists frequently assassinate Iranian scientists and other intellectuals within Iran. Countries under such threat always clamp down upon internal dissidents. Iran is quite mild compared to some;

According to the latest Iranian census, the remaining Jewish population of Iran was 9,826 in 2016;[5] a 2021 population website numbers the Jews In Iran as 8,500 in 2021.
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moon said:
Iran is under constant threat of attack by Israeli fascists. The fascists frequently assassinate Iranian scientists and other intellectuals within Iran. Countries under such threat always clamp down upon internal dissidents. Iran is quite mild compared to some;
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Gate guards in Iran face frequent suicide bombers.

I think it's a Sunni/radical variant vs. Shia thing, maybe. :dunno:
 
Yes, they're like Catholics and Protestants were in Ireland- and throughout history. That's almost healed- but for a rotten UK government.
 
moon said:
Iran is under constant threat of attack by Israeli fascists. The fascists frequently assassinate Iranian scientists and other intellectuals within Iran. Countries under such threat always clamp down upon internal dissidents. Iran is quite mild compared to some;
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It seems the Palestinians have hit all the right buttons:

• They are (allegedly) the "third world" fighting "imperialists" - a cause many people will support no matter what kind of "imperialism" is being attacked, and with no thought to what kind of state the "third world" rebels are fighting to establish.

• They are (allegedly) "non-whites" fighting "whites". The modern left, which is still in the racist world, cares primarily about crimes by "whites" or "people like us". It cares little about crimes by "non-whites". As I have argued elsewhere, this looks like anti-white racism, but is in fact just another form of anti-non-white racism, treating non-whites as if they are not adults responsible for their actions. Not criticising Palestinians or other "third world" or "non-white" peoples does not show how enlightened you are. It shows how racist you are.

• Of course, to think of this conflict as "non-whites" versus "whites" is actually nonsense. Israelis comes from all over the world, including all over the Middle East (from which they were expelled), and including places like Ethiopia. But for racists the world over (which includes most of the western left), all Israelis are honorary "whites".

• They are (allegedly) the "poor" fighting the "rich". The fact that it is their own fault that they are poor, and the fact that the Israelis deserve all of their wealth because they have worked hard to create it, is neither here nor there.

• They are fighting against Jews - always a popular target throughout history. The world has not changed that much. Prejudices don't die overnight. After Auschwitz, the world should have changed forever. But it didn't. After the industrial gassing of Jewish families, anti-semitism should have ended forever. But it didn't

• If Israel was ever defeated by its Islamic enemies, and a second Holocaust began, much of the Islamic world would cheer the end of the hated Israel, and ignore, minimise or even cheer the second Holocaust. The western left would explain how the Jews were responsible, for having generated such hatred. The EU and UN would hem and haw and do nothing. Only America and Britain and a few others would try to stop it. How can anyone doubt the above would be the case.

• They are Muslim, giving them a sympathetic constituency of 1 billion people. Muslims tend to sympathise with Muslims engaged in conflict with non-Muslims worldwide. Christians aren't like this. For example, the genocide of Christians in the Sudan is generally a matter of indifference to western Christians, who are interested in other issues. See the silence of the Archbishop of Canterbury on the topic of the persecution of third world Christians.
If the Palestinians were Christian, nobody would support them. Certainly the Islamic world wouldn't. And if they were fundamentalist Christian, the western left would despise them - and probably even support the Israelis. But, for some reason, fundamentalist Islam is alright with the western left.

• They are incredibly violent and barbaric, with savage attacks against the most defenceless of civilians, such as children. Due to the strange nature of humans, this gets them more support, not less. If they engaged in peaceful protest, nobody in the world would pay them much attention. But no one can ignore young people who suicide bomb restaurants and shoot toddlers

• The Palestinians are not the most oppressed people on the planet. Far from it. There are dozens of far more oppressed peoples and hundreds of more worthwhile causes in the world. What is special about the Palestinians is that they are the most violent and barbaric of all (allegedly)

• What is special about the Palestinians is that they are the most violent and barbaric of all (allegedly) "oppressed" peoples on the planet. Hence - due to the strange nature of humans - they get more attention and more support worldwide.

• They are fighting a democracy. A democracy gives open access to journalists and is a nice comfortable place for them to report from (good hotels, shops, restaurants, Internet access, etc.). Also, the journalist can attack the democracy in print as much as he likes without fear. By contrast, non-democracies allow little or no access, facilities are primitive and unpleasant, and journalists live in fear of arrest or even death. Hence, lots of journalists in Israel. Hardly any in the Sudan or North Korea. Hence, a war against a democracy will be covered in a lot more detail than a war against a non-democracy. Hence, the democracy will be criticised for its (minor) crimes a lot more than non-democracies committing really serious crimes. Israel gets more criticism than even countries that commit large-scale genocide.

• They are fighting a democracy. A non-democracy would simply exterminate or ethnically cleanse them, and the conflict would soon come to an end and be forgotten by everyone except historians. Who in the world talks about the Armenians now? Or even Bangladesh or Biafra? Most young people have never even heard of these - just as Rwanda will soon be forgotten. But a democracy like Israel cannot simply exterminate its enemy and end the conflict. It has to be far more restrained, and so the conflict goes on and on for years.
 
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moon said:
You look sillier by the day, maggot. Your Palestinian cut-and-paste is a hoot.

Fuck off and kick a refugee.
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Mark Humphrys is a hell of a lot cleverer and learned than you'll ever be, McMoonshi'ite. You're not fit to lick the man's boots.

Israel left Gaza in 2005. That is 17 years ago. All 9,000 Jews were forcibly ethnically cleansed in the name of "peace". Many were born there. Others lived there for decades. All expelled. Every settlement is destroyed.
If the Gazans wanted peace, prosperity and freedom, it has been there for the taking since 2005. All they had to do was build a state, and leave Israel alone. There would be no blockade, no wall, no checkpoints, no airstrikes. Gazans would now be rich and free. They could have a booming tourist industry on the Mediterranean.

But Gazans don't want to be rich and free. They want other things. They want land, honour, blood and vengeance. These things will not make them happy, but that is what they want and what they pursue. And so they keep attacking Israel, even though Israel is gone. And so they have fired thousands of rockets at Israel. And so Israel has to keep coming back to bomb the aggressors. And the western Left, like the morons they are, encourage all this.
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Read much more: https://markhumphrys.com/gaza.wars.html#hamas.way.war
 
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Primavera said:
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Why is Iran executing, kidnapping so many people?

No other regime in the world does this. Iran’s point is that international laws don’t apply to it.

Iran’s regime appears to be on an execution spree. It murdered wrestler Navid Afkari in September and hung journalist Ruhollah Zam this month after kidnapping him from Iraq. Iran’s regime is not afraid to kill people: It gunned down some 1,400 protesters last year.

What the regime is showing through the high-profile executions is that it can kill journalists and athletes, people who should be protected by modern human-rights laws, and it can do so publicly and openly.
Iran also illegally kidnapped a man named Habib Chaab from Istanbul. The regime is holding up these hangings to the world as a provocation to see how countries react.

Iran’s regime does this for two reasons. First of all, it wants to show that amidst US pressure and European appeasement, it can do whatever it wants. This builds on years of attacking countries such as Saudi Arabia, mining ships in international waters, launching missiles at foreign states, funding illegal militias and trafficking weapons all over the Middle East. No other regime in the world does this. Iran’s point is that international laws don’t apply to it.

https://m.jpost.com/middle-east/why-is-iran-executing-kidnapping-so-many-people-652426
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moon said:
Is this thread about international and humanitarian law, maggot- or is it about your hatred for Iran for refusing to capitulate to Zionist threats ?

Dare you enter the international and humanitarian law debate, maggot--- with a record like yours ?
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Ah, so Moon's the anti-Semite. Got it.
 
Manservant said:
Yeah, I'm not for banning people. I'll either discuss the subject or scroll past idiotic posts.
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You're already history, twitching your way to further obscurity.



Haw, haw......................................haw.
 
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