Why is Brennan obstructing justice

Flash said:
I don't think so. First, somebody has to actually obstruct justice. He has no authority to order anybody to do anything. Because some worker respects his opinion does not give them the power to withhold documents. Brennan's intent does not apply.
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Well, I said ‘at risk’ lol.

And I was using a ‘liberal’ application of law like what gets used against Trump. I’ve heard some lefties claim Trump was guilty obstruction for what he said on Twitter about the Mullet investigation.
 
Darth Omar said:
Good point on intent.

Except it would be *criminal* intent if Brennan is trying to hinder the investigation to protect himself or others from prosecution.

In contrast, Trump knew he was innocent of the collusion charge so it would be impossible for him to have criminal intent in any obstruction case. In fact, if Trump so much as *suspected* the investigation was corrupt he had legitimate grounds to try and obstruct it.

In fact, it could be argued he had a responsibility to do so in order to protect the office of the presidency.
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This is exactly why Mueller punted on obstruction, he knew he could never win in court. Don't buy the BS line about the DOJ memo which says a sitting president can't be indicted. If Mueller thought he had a case for obstruction, he would've challenged that.
 
Flash said:
I don't think so. First, somebody has to actually obstruct justice. He has no authority to order anybody to do anything. Because some worker respects his opinion does not give them the power to withhold documents. Brennan's intent does not apply.
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Is witness tampering not a form of obstruction of justice? I believe it is.
 
countryboy said:
This is exactly why Mueller punted on obstruction, he knew he could never win in court. Don't buy the BS line about the DOJ memo which says a sitting president can't be indicted. If Mueller thought he had a case for obstruction, he would've challenged that.
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Turley addressed the weakness of the DOJ memo. I don’t have the article saved or I would post it.

There was a reason besides the DOJ regulation-excuse that Mullet didn’t indict Trump. I agree that the best explanation is he knew the charge was weak and would never stand up in court.

Much less, the Senate.
 
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countryboy said:
Could you possibly be more uninformed? No, no you couldn't.
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Answer the question, bitch.

1)What is Brennan being investigated for?
2) Is it even REMOTELY related to the Barr release of classified information?
3) Which witnesses is he tampering with?
4) What power over those “witnesses” does he have, other than his opinion, does he have to constitute tampering?

I’ll wait for your desperate, delusional, rambling response.

Such fucking desperate losers. :rofl2:
 
Darth Omar said:
Turley addressed the weakness of the DOJ memo. I don’t have the article saved or I would post it.

There was a reason besides the DOJ regulation-excuse that Mullet didn’t indict Trump. I agree that the best explanation is he knew the charge was weak and never stand up in court.

Much less, the Senate.
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Especially since the Mueller investigation was never obstructed. Mueller was never fired, and received unprecedented cooperation from Trump. Furthermore, how do you obstruct a bogus investigation? In all reality, Trump had every right to put a stop to this fraud of an investigation, he had every right to fire Mueller. I was one of those saying he should've fired Mueller. In hindsight, I was wrong. By not firing Mueller, he has all the political capital he'll ever need to counter investigate. Now that he has released the Kraken (declassified), the Dems are quivering in their wadin' boots. Looks like Nadler literally stroked out the other day, lol.
 
countryboy said:
Especially since the Mueller investigation was never obstructed. Mueller was never fired, and received unprecedented cooperation from Trump. Furthermore, how do you obstruct a bogus investigation? In all reality, Trump had every right to put a stop to this fraud of an investigation, he had every right to fire Mueller. I was one of those saying he should've fired Mueller. In hindsight, I was wrong. By not firing Mueller, he has all the political capital he'll ever need to counter investigate. Now that he has released the Kraken (declassified), the Dems are quivering in their wadin' boots. Looks like Nadler literally stroked out the other day, lol.
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Pretty much.

They were begging Trump to fire Mullet. In fact, I think some of Mullet’s more ‘gratuitous’ moves [the over the top raids on Manafort and Stone] were done for that exact reason. And I don’t doubt that Trump was prevented from taking the bait by some of his advisors.
 
countryboy said:
Is witness tampering not a form of obstruction of justice? I believe it is.
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What witness did he tamper with in giving his opinion about release of documents?

It must involve murder or attempted murder, physical force or attempt at physical force, hinder, delay or prevent some action.

To claim Brennan tampered with a witness or obstructed justice would mean any citizen who gave a similar opinion would be guilty of the same crime.

This is a big stretch to claim Brennan did anything wrong. It is like many of our posters who make accusations of treason that are not even close to the real thing.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1512
 
countryboy said:
Especially since the Mueller investigation was never obstructed. Mueller was never fired, and received unprecedented cooperation from Trump. Furthermore, how do you obstruct a bogus investigation? In all reality, Trump had every right to put a stop to this fraud of an investigation, he had every right to fire Mueller. I was one of those saying he should've fired Mueller. In hindsight, I was wrong. By not firing Mueller, he has all the political capital he'll ever need to counter investigate. Now that he has released the Kraken (declassified), the Dems are quivering in their wadin' boots. Looks like Nadler literally stroked out the other day, lol.
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10 instances of obstruction in the Mueller report
 
Flash said:
What witness did he tamper with in giving his opinion about release of documents?

It must involve murder or attempted murder, physical force or attempt at physical force, hinder, delay or prevent some action.

To claim Brennan tampered with a witness or obstructed justice would mean any citizen who gave a similar opinion would be guilty of the same crime.

This is a big stretch to claim Brennan did anything wrong. It is like many of our posters who make accusations of treason that are not even close to the real thing.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1512
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That’s a better argument if Brennan were a John Doe citizen and not a former Director—who could still hold sway over people in the agency and ‘hinder’ them from cooperating with Barr.

If I were his lawyer I’d counsel against making such statements—particularly, in light of the legal exposure Brennan has already.
 
domer76 said:
There doesn’t have to be an underlying crime, you fucking moron.
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Right.

But only if you want to make a pathetically weak indictment. Mullet apparently thought better of if.

*Thinking* Democrats in the House know it would never fly as well. You might notice they aren’t having the impeachment vote lol.
 
Darth Omar said:
That’s a better argument if Brennan were a John Doe citizen and not a former Director—who could still hold sway over people in the agency and ‘hinder’ them from cooperating with Barr.

If I were his lawyer I’d counsel against making such statements—particularly, in light of the legal exposure Brennan has already.
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I don't know if it;'s actual obstruction or not, but it's Brennan running scared.
the Creep has been running his mouth from the safety of the sidelines on CNN where he lets his bile flow
-but now it's karma time. Payback's a bitch
 
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