Why don't DEMOCRATS want a wall? They work, and they voted for partial "fences"

Why don't DEMOCRATS want a wall? (Check all that apply)

  • Because Trump wants one

    Votes: 5 27.8%

  • Because they want California to keep its extra electoral votes & House seats

    Votes: 4 22.2%

  • Because illegal immigrants are their constituents

    Votes: 4 22.2%

  • Because they won't enforce laws they disagree with, & a wall would make that hard to do

    Votes: 2 11.1%

  • Because as the 2016 electoral map showed, most legal Americans won't vote for a DEMOCRAT

    Votes: 5 27.8%

  • All of the above

    Votes: 10 55.6%
  • Total voters
    18
  • Poll closed .
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Legion

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Why don't DEMOCRATS want a wall? They work, and they voted for partial "fences"

I think DEMOCRATS don't want a wall because the next time a DEMOCRAT becomes President, they'll want him or her (or it) to do what B. Hussein Obama did - order ICE & CBP to stop enforcing immigration laws.

A wall won't fall down because a DEMOCRAT wants it to.

Discuss.
 
Obama was known as the deporter in chief. Are you ever right? Obama spent allocated money for fixing and updating parts of the wall and fencing that is there. Daffy claimed it was him building the wall.
 
Your poll looks like the kind that Fox would compose. The correct answer is: Waste of money; Trump promised Mexico would pay for it so let's make that happen.
 
Nordberg said:
Obama was known as the deporter in chief. Are you ever right? Obama spent allocated money for fixing and updating parts of the wall and fencing that is there. Daffy claimed it was him building the wall.
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And Trump is so concerned about border security that he shut down the government, including border security.

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Legion said:
I think DEMOCRATS don't want a wall because the next time a DEMOCRAT becomes President, they'll want him or her (or it) to do what B. Hussein Obama did - order ICE & CBP to stop enforcing immigration laws.

A wall won't fall down because a DEMOCRAT wants it to.

Discuss.
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The biggest reason democrats are against the wall is because Trump and his supporters are for it. According to democrats, Trump needs to be humiliated on all points. I’m not saying this to be cute—that REALLY IS the extent of their ‘guiding principles’ ever since 2016.

I’m waiting for Trump to start using reverse psychology on them. Start talking down the wall. Congressional republicans should sponsor a bill stipulating that that all barriers on the southern border be removed and Trump should go on live television and talk it up from his desk in the Oval Office.

Watch how fast democrats start clamoring for a wall.
 
Darth Beto Omar said:
The biggest reason democrats are against the wall is because Trump and his supporters are for it. According to democrats, Trump needs to be humiliated on all points. I’m not saying this to be cute—that REALLY IS the extent of their ‘guiding principles’ ever since 2016.

I’m waiting for Trump to start using reverse psychology on them. Start talking down the wall. Congressional republicans should sponsor a bill stipulating that that all barriers on the southern border be removed and Trump should go on live television and talk it up from his desk in the Oval Office.

Watch how fast democrats start clamoring for a wall.
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He should outlaw all fences and physical barriers in the US since they are ineffective
 
Nordberg said:
Obama was known as the deporter in chief. Are you ever right? Obama spent allocated money for fixing and updating parts of the wall and fencing that is there. Daffy claimed it was him building the wall.
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The method by which something was considered a deportation was done differently under Obama and unlike any of the previous WHITE presidents.
 
rjhenn said:
And Trump is so concerned about border security that he shut down the government, including border security.

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You shouldn't have a problem with a shutdown, then, since you oppose border security and the influx of illegals. Why are you whining, boy?
 
They have to be against the wall and for any security measures, they have too much invested in Illegal immigrants to change course now. There are many democrat politicans calling for open borders, no border patrol and abolish ice.

Only the american people the voters can make them change at this point
 
Havana Moon said:
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This is the 764 km wall funded by the EU, can anybody sensible, here's hoping, tell me why that works but Trump's wall won't?

http://www.iamawake.co/the-eu-funded-wall-that-nobody-wants-to-talk-about-turkey-syria/
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Havana Moon said:
This is the 864 km wall funded by the EU, can anybody sensible, here's hoping, tell me why that works but Trump's wall won't?

http://www.iamawake.co/the-eu-funded-wall-that-nobody-wants-to-talk-about-turkey-syria/
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Funny how walls seem to work around the world but won't work in the USA. Makes one wonder why Democrats claim a wall doesn't work. :bigthink:
 
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There was never going to be "comprehensive immigration reform" or any deal amnestying the DACA recipients in exchange for building the wall. DEMOCRATS in the present political landscape will not consent to a wall.

12 years ago, Congress, with broad bipartisan support, passed the Security Fence of Act of 2006. The bill was signed into law by George W. Bush to overwhelming public applause. The stopgap legislation led to some 650 miles of a mostly inexpensive steel fence while still leaving about two-thirds of the 1,950-mile border unfenced.

In those days there were not nearly 50 million foreign-born immigrants living in the United States illegally. DEMOCRATS such as Hillary and Bill Clinton and Barack Obama talked tough about illegal immigration. They even ruled out amnesty while talking up a new border wall.

In those days, progressives saw illegal immigration as illiberal — or at least not as a winning proposition among union households and the working poor. DEMOCRAT constituencies opposed importing inexpensive foreign labor for corporate bosses. Welfare rights groups believed that massive illegal immigration would swamp social services and curtail government help to American poor.

What changed?

  • Many of solidly blue states voted red as recently as 2004 for George W. Bush.
  • Progressives understandably concluded that pandering to illegals is their only hope, since citizens don't support open borders.
  • One out of every four residents in California is now foreign-born.
  • Not since 2006 has any California Republican been elected to statewide office.

A secure border would reduce illegal immigration dramatically and with it, foreign DEMOCRAT constituent populations. Identity politics would wane.

All prior efforts to ensure border security — sanctions against employers, threats to cut off foreign aid to Mexico and Central America, and talk of tamper-proof identity cards — have failed.

Instead, amnesties, expanded entitlements and hundreds of sanctuary jurisdictions offer incentives for waves of illegal immigrants.

The reason a secure border has not been implemented is not because it would not work, but rather fear that it would.





https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/border-wall-illegal-immigration-democrats/
 
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