Why does it cost $740 Billion (Dems IRA) to cap Insulin prices at $35 per month?

Bigdog said:
You think you're so fucking smart, then post the info and sources here for all to see.

How much of those billions are going to insulin, Mother Teresa? :palm:
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You were the one saying we were spending $780 billion dollars to reduce insulin prices to $35.00. Not only was that total bullshit, but then your handlers posted a link to support your claim, only the link showed nothing.

Yes, I am a whole lot fucking smarter than you will ever be.
 
floridafan said:
You were the one saying we were spending $780 billion dollars to reduce insulin prices to $35.00. Not only was that total bullshit, but then your handlers posted a link to support your claim, only the link showed nothing.

Yes, I am a whole lot fucking smarter than you will ever be.
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It is you Democrat thieves that claimed you needed to pass a 740 billion Act to lower insulin prices.
 
Earl said:
Why did Slow Joe rescind President Trump's "Lower Out of Pocket Insulin" program?


President Trump Announces Lower Out of Pocket Insulin ...
https://www.cms.gov › newsroom › press-releases › pre...
May 26, 2020 — Today, under President Trump's leadership, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) announced that over 1750 standalone Medicare ...

Biden Administration Rescinds Trump Administration Insulin ...
https://www.policymed.com › Drug Prices
Oct 24, 2021 — One of the final healthcare actions made by the Trump Administration has been rescinded by the Biden Administration. On December 23, 2020, ...
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So, you are all for increased government regulation that costs businesses large amounts of money to try to administer?
In the Federal Register notice rescinding the rule, HHS noted that the rule would have resulted in “excessive administrative costs and burdens” on health centers. Specifically, the agency took issue with the requirement that health centers would need to create and maintain new practices to determine patients’ eligibility to receive drugs at or below the discounted price paid by the health center, plus a minimal fee. HHS also noted its belief that the implementation of the Rule would have resulted in “reduced resources available to support critical services to health center patients – including those who use insulin and injectable epinephrine.
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So basically, the Trump regulation decreased the cost of insulin by reducing money available for the care of other patients. If you had bothered to read your own link you would have found the answer to your question.
 
Bigdog said:
It is you Democrat thieves that claimed you needed to pass a 740 billion Act to lower insulin prices.
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Thats not the point, asshole. you fucking lied about everything. Lets face it, you are a minor leaguer trying to play with the big boys. You are nothing brightest crayon in the box, and will do or say anything to change the subject.
 
floridafan said:
Thats not the point, asshole. you fucking lied about everything. Lets face it, you are a minor leaguer trying to play with the big boys. You are nothing brightest crayon in the box, and will do or say anything to change the subject.
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How much of that 740 billion, did you say is going towards insulin?
 
Earl said:
No, seniors are not going to support the Democrats who allow big Pharma to charge as much as they want for pharmaceuticals.

Now, answer why Slow Joe cancelled President Trump's Insulin plan?
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Stop Lying EARL! Democrats are not about BIG PHARMA charging whatever they want for Insulin or anything else.

First of all TRUMP's INSULINE PLAN was by executive order.

Biden had Congress write the Bill that makes it law!

Just as Biden will Have Congress Write a bill to make abortions legal in all 50 states- IN HIS 2nd TERM! HAHAHAHA! :laugh:

I am going to pull a TRUMPTARD here- and just say that I don't particularly love BIDEN- BUT I SURE DO LOVE HIS POLICIES!

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floridafan said:
You were the one saying we were spending $780 billion dollars to reduce insulin prices to $35.00. Not only was that total bullshit, but then your handlers posted a link to support your claim, only the link showed nothing.

Yes, I am a whole lot fucking smarter than you will ever be.
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Liar.
 
Bigdog said:
"Specifically, the bill would encourage insulin makers to reduce their list prices by ensuring insurers and pharmacy benefit managers cannot collect rebates on certain discounted insulins. Those discounted insulins would be eligible for "cost-sharing protections," and the bill would cap patient copays or coinsurance at $35 per month, a one-page summary says."

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/senate-weigh-bill-curbing-insulin-costs-patients-35-month-0

This shouldn't cost taxpayers a dime. :dunno:
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Are you a idiot or pretending to be a idiot and a ignoramus and none of this black this and black that as the diabetic situation is a issue with all Americans and regardless of what so-called race they are, and a huge amount who are so-called republicans. Also idiot, in terms of cost and despite this crappy and rubbish source of bullshit you put here, consider the following facts in terms of cost at capping insulin at $35 versus having citizens with healthcare coverage pay astronomical out of pocket insulin rates at over $1000 per month that was an advantage for greedy pharmaceutical companies, repukes and their special interests group. This is considering repukes don't care about anyone including the fools that vote for them with a hater attitude. This is when it comes to ensuring their well being is served but instead to collect their taxpayer provided pay check and free healthcare and to hell with everyone else as far as a gutter and seditious repuke is concerned:

The final version of the Senate bill did leave in a $35 monthly cap on insulin for people 65 and older on Medicare. The bill would also allow the federal government to negotiate lower drug prices on behalf of Medicare, a measure that members of Congress have debated for decades."

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/republicans-block-insulin-price-cap-really-gone-rcna42177

Now sleazy troll consider your seditious repukes and tRump as a so-called business man at giving the taxpayer the business, and including the fools that voting for the lawlessly hacked in piece of shit costing the taxpayer $2.3 trillion. This atrocity in order to feed the greedy gullets of themselves and their greedy corporate and other special interests groups, and while giving the working and middle class a juicy tax hike as in the shaft. Additionally, for the working and middle class taxpayer to carry that grand larcenist tax burden of the repuke and tRump enemy from within?

POLITICO analysis: At $2.3 trillion cost, Trump tax cuts leave big gap
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/28/tax-cuts-trump-gop-analysis-430781
 
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Earl said:
https://www.policymed.com/2021/10/b...rump-administration-insulin-pricing-rule.html

https://www.policymed.com/2021/10/b...rump-administration-insulin-pricing-rule.html

https://www.policymed.com/2021/10/b...rump-administration-insulin-pricing-rule.html

Biden Administration Rescinds Trump Administration Insulin Pricing Rule

Illiterate?
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I would always recommend that you read the articles before they are posted for you. This one makes you look foolish:

In the Federal Register notice rescinding the rule, HHS noted that the rule would have resulted in “excessive administrative costs and burdens” on health centers. Specifically, the agency took issue with the requirement that health centers would need to create and maintain new practices to determine patients’ eligibility to receive drugs at or below the discounted price paid by the health center, plus a minimal fee. HHS also noted its belief that the implementation of the Rule would have resulted in “reduced resources available to support critical services to health center patients – including those who use insulin and injectable epinephrine.

HHS further acknowledged concerns expressed “by the vast majority of commenters” that the “low income” definition of 350% of the federal poverty level would have “created significant administrative challenges for health centers” and that those challenges would have resulted in a diversion of resources from patient care in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic.
 
floridafan said:
I would always recommend that you read the articles before they are posted for you. This one makes you look foolish:

In the Federal Register notice rescinding the rule, HHS noted that the rule would have resulted in “excessive administrative costs and burdens” on health centers. Specifically, the agency took issue with the requirement that health centers would need to create and maintain new practices to determine patients’ eligibility to receive drugs at or below the discounted price paid by the health center, plus a minimal fee. HHS also noted its belief that the implementation of the Rule would have resulted in “reduced resources available to support critical services to health center patients – including those who use insulin and injectable epinephrine.

HHS further acknowledged concerns expressed “by the vast majority of commenters” that the “low income” definition of 350% of the federal poverty level would have “created significant administrative challenges for health centers” and that those challenges would have resulted in a diversion of resources from patient care in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic.
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Good to see that you finally understand that the “Biden Administration Rescinded Trump Administration Insulin Pricing Rule.”

The criticism is, of course, unsupported.

The efficacy of Biden’s plan is unknown.

HHS...lol
 
Earl said:
Good to see that you finally understand that the “Biden Administration Rescinded Trump Administration Insulin Pricing Rule.”

The criticism is, of course, unsupported.

The efficacy of Biden’s plan is unknown.

HHS...lol
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Its interesting how Republicans supported Trumps plan and voted totally against Bidens. Here we have politics over people.
 
floridafan said:
Its interesting how Republicans supported Trumps plan and voted totally against Bidens. Here we have politics over people.
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Biden's plan cost $740 billion. Duh!

President Trump's E.O.


Administration of Donald J. Trump, 2020
Executive Order 13937—Access to Affordable Life-Saving Medications
July 24, 2020

Sec. 2. Policy. It is the policy of the United States to enable Americans without access to
affordable insulin and injectable epinephrine through commercial insurance or Federal programs, such as Medicare and Medicaid, to purchase these pharmaceuticals from an FQHC at a price that aligns with the cost at which the FQHC acquired the medication.


Sec. 3. Improving the Availability of Insulin and Injectable Epinephrine for the Uninsured.
To the extent permitted by law, the Secretary of Health and Human Services shall take action to ensure future grants available under section 330(e) of the Public Health Service Act, as amended, 42 U.S.C. 254b(e), are conditioned upon FQHCs' having established practices to make insulin and injectable epinephrine available at the discounted price paid by the FQHC grantee or subgrantee under the 340B Prescription Drug Program (plus a minimal administration fee) to individuals with low incomes, as determined by the Secretary, who:
(a) have a high cost sharing requirement for either insulin or injectable epinephrine;
(b) have a high unmet deductible; or
(c) have no health care insurance.


https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/DCPD-202000539/pdf/DCPD-202000539.pdf
 
Bigdog said:
"Specifically, the bill would encourage insulin makers to reduce their list prices by ensuring insurers and pharmacy benefit managers cannot collect rebates on certain discounted insulins. Those discounted insulins would be eligible for "cost-sharing protections," and the bill would cap patient copays or coinsurance at $35 per month, a one-page summary says."

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/senate-weigh-bill-curbing-insulin-costs-patients-35-month-0

This shouldn't cost taxpayers a dime. :dunno:
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The 35 dollar cap for insulin is for people on Medicare only, the pukes block the 35 dollar cap for insulin for everyone else?!!
Remember this in November?!!
 
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