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Why Do Trump Supporters Hate The Poor.
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Save it for the funny pages. You are clueless.
I agree. It's nice that there are some intelligent people around here to talk to. T A gardher is a lost cause. Also, many of the wealthy invest in real estate. So right now there are around 500,000 more home sellers than there are home buyers. Another point is that there are around 500.000 to 600,000 homeless people in the U.S. (Around 50% of whom came from the foster care system) Yet there are around 14.9 million vacant homes in the U.S.
Tobytone
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Corn Pop’s a perfect example of why one should not covet. Among other things, it’s because human beings are hardwired to turn sour and bitter, feeding hatred and jealousy, pure and simple. It’s really his own failures that have impeded his ability to achieve his dreams, his choice. (when and if he was ever capable of dreaming). When he sees others who have, it’s his brain-washed mind immediately jumps to countless assumptions about how that person achieved what he hasn’t.
He is a classic narcissist as well, so he sees himself as smarter, more logical, grounded, and capable. He’s just all around a better human being than any of those “vile” men or women who have it all. He completely ignores the fact that that person did nothing more than make voluntary exchanges with people voluntarily agreeing to do so, and made a series of choices about what to do with the profits and then repeats step one. Nobody is forced to buy any service or product they don’t want or need, unless you include the government.
Of course, it’s not news that thou must covet' is at the very core of the Marxist agenda. It’s essential that the drones they worked so hard to create are consumed with jealousy, anger, and bitterness. They must buy into the oppressor versus oppressed narrative first and foremost, then it’s private property and the complete takeover of all industry. The inevitable: “No matter how hard we try, we can’t get these greedy pigs to do the right thing, so the only moral thing to do is let the kind and just central government take over.” All of this, of course, is preceded by creating so much carnage that people finally give in and give up their guns,(except those that need 'extra persuasion') a must-do for little tyrannical scumbags thirsty for nothing but power and control.
All of that starts with millions of dumbass Corn Pops, mad at the greatest country to ever exist in all of human history, because they think the majority of the wealth they covet is ill-gotten. They believe there’s a magic number, a limit that one should be able to amass, or, even dumber, that there is someone out there who can determine and set the 'too-much-money number.'
The list of other misconceptions and outright falsehoods is very long, and the level of indoctrination is very high. We’ve got our work cut out for us, no doubt. Obviously, it’s far easier to be on the left. How intelligent does one need to be to offer free shit, tell people that others will pay for it, and, by the way, those evil scum deserve to have their wealth taken away to pay your way? Sounds great to an already softened-up student who has been told America is inherently racist, greedy, with a Nazi in the White House. Wake up drones.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
No, you become a billionaire by finding something that hasn't been done before and building that something into a business empire. The Vanderbilts did it with railroads. Carnage did it with steel. Edison did it with electricity. Gates did it with computer software. The pattern is pretty consistent. You grow great wealth by finding the next great thing that nobody before has done and make it into a successful industry.
They didn't "take" money from others but rather generated great wealth out of their ideas by hard work. Most people will not have the drive, ideas, knowledge, or perseverance to do this. Most are satisfied to build sufficient wealth to live comfortably. The lazy, stupid, indolent, and unwilling languish in mediocrity and poverty. That's their problem, not mine, not yours. If YOU want to give them money fine by me. Just don't use government to force ME to give them money.
Now, there are some billionaires that inherit their money, about a third of them. These tend to live in places and countries where there is lots of big government, lots of social-welfare state, and not a lot of innovation and enterprise. So, if you want an oligarchy or plutocracy, implement more government, more social-welfare, and move towards a socialist society.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
So? I've invested in real estate. I was, at one time, buying lots that were "unbuildable," and making them buildable. This entailed variously, doing serious cut and fill, build up for flood plains, or other work on them that would result in a stable, compacted, pad that met code requirements and could be built on. Such lots are relatively cheap.
As for the rest of your post, it's drivel.
Why is the U.S. Housing Market Short By Nearly 4 Million Homes?
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Why is the U.S. Housing Market Short By Nearly 4 Million Homes?
According to a new Realtor.com report, there were 3.8 million fewer homes than needed in 2024. The report showed that it would take builders 7.5 years to catch up with demand.
Housing experts say there just aren't enough homes in the U.S.
States with the most homeless are generally blue ones like California and New York. They are also the most likely to have unaffordable, high rents and costs of living.
State of Homelessness: 2025 Edition
The National Alliance to End Homelessness is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization committed to preventing and ending homelessness in the United States.
endhomelessness.org
In general, the bluer the state, the more the poor are fucked by the government and their policies.
The biggest population of homeless are single women with children who are marginally employable and have less than a high school diploma. They tend to aggregate in deep blue states where social-welfare benefits are the greatest like California, New York, or Illinois. That is, they go where they can live off the government.
New Survey Data Provides Demographic Profile of Population Experiencing Homelessness Who Lived in Emergency and Transitional Shelters
The American Community Survey 5-year estimates provides a demographic profile of the population experiencing homelessness who lived in shelters.
www.census.gov
Homelessness in America: Statistics, Analysis, & Trends | Security.org
In 2023, homelessness in the U.S. hit a record high of 653,104, up 12% from 2022. New York and California account for 44% of the homeless population.
www.security.org
I will also add that it's likely, almost certain, that veterans are grossly overrepresented in homeless statistics. This is due to several reasons:
1. Almost all surveys use self-reporting on veteran status. That is, the surveyors don't check the veracity of the respondent and simply accept their word on it.
2. Veterans as a group are better educated, more motivated, and in better health than the general population.
3. Included in those with veteran status are ex-military who were fuck ups and discharged from the service for cause. While they retain some status as veterans, they really aren't indicative of veterans who served honorably.
IBDaMann
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The problem with you Marxists is that you focus on the irrlevancies of physical work, and don't focus on the adding of value. When the CEO adds 3,654x the value of someone, it shouldn't come as any surprise that the CEO's compensation is similarly in the same ballpark.
Don't worry, Jethro, you'll never be in a position to add value.
If you want to think that even people like Vanderbilt, Carnegie, Edison, Gates, and Trump "grew" great wealth and did it without fucking people who helped them become vastly wealthy; fucking others who should have been paid more for work done for him/her; fucking customers who should not have had to pay nearly as much as they could extract...and all sorts of other shit that a decent person would not do...fine with me. We need innocent, naive people as well as people willing to see the reality of our chosen economic system.
Nothing wrong with that, TA, but it truly does not differ appreciably from shear stupidity.
Perhaps some of what you said is correct...and some of what I GUESSSED is correct also. They are not mutually exclusive. The bottom line is that it seems most rich people seem to become rich in America in one of three ways: As I mentioned above, by fucking others; by being born with it; or by marrying into it.
The vast, unnecessary wealth and the unfortunate toddlers dying in bodies distorted by hunger can co-exist. BUT THE FACT THAT IT DOES AND YET STILL THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO FIND REASONS TO DEFEND IT HAPPENING...SUCKS LIKE A GIGANTIC BLACK HOLE.
Just my opinion, of course.
It is not confiscation. They receive substantial services from the government and pay relatively little. How are Ivanka and Donnie Jr becoming wealthy ? Is it great talent and education?
Two ways to fix a deficit. Spend less, or increase revenue. You rightys reject raising revenue immediately. The wealth gap is at unheard-of level. The wealthy are using huge services and paying little. When Ike was in charge, the tax was 90 percent. People did not pay that much, but they paid a lot more than they do now. We built our interstate highway system back then. Now we refuse to maintain and modernize it .
The wealthy are incredibly greedy and will fight to get more and more. You think they should get it.
cawacko
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We spend trillions of dollars as a country. The top rate under Eisenhower was 90 percent, but very few actually paid that. Effective rates were somewhat higher than today, but not by that much, and the global situation was very different. Europe and Japan were still rebuilding from the war, China was under Mao, and India was not yet a major economic force.
The interstate highway system is interesting from a modern perspective. It connected the country, but in many cities it cut through poor and minority neighborhoods and tore them apart. In today’s progressive view, it is often seen as an example of systemic racism rather than an achievement.
No, you become a billionaire by finding something that hasn't been done before and building that something into a business empire. The Vanderbilts did it with railroads. Carnage did it with steel. Edison did it with electricity. Gates did it with computer software. The pattern is pretty consistent. You grow great wealth by finding the next great thing that nobody before has done and make it into a successful industry.
They didn't "take" money from others but rather generated great wealth out of their ideas by hard work. Most people will not have the drive, ideas, knowledge, or perseverance to do this. Most are satisfied to build sufficient wealth to live comfortably. The lazy, stupid, indolent, and unwilling languish in mediocrity and poverty. That's their problem, not mine, not yours. If YOU want to give them money fine by me. Just don't use government to force ME to give them money.
Now, there are some billionaires that inherit their money, about a third of them. These tend to live in places and countries where there is lots of big government, lots of social-welfare state, and not a lot of innovation and enterprise. So, if you want an oligarchy or plutocracy, implement more government, more social-welfare, and move towards a socialist society.
What will it take to make you stop replying to me with BS. Or stop replying to me at all. You know, they called them "Robber Barons" for a reason. All that they had they gained from taking from others. Take Carnegie. He considered the long hours 7 days a week, the poor working conditions and the low pay as "survival of the fittest." When what he was actually doing was stuffing his pockets with as much money as they could hold.
So? I've invested in real estate. I was, at one time, buying lots that were "unbuildable," and making them buildable. This entailed variously, doing serious cut and fill, build up for flood plains, or other work on them that would result in a stable, compacted, pad that met code requirements and could be built on. Such lots are relatively cheap.
As for the rest of your post, it's drivel.
Why is the U.S. Housing Market Short By Nearly 4 Million Homes?
Why is the U.S. Housing Market Short By Nearly 4 Million Homes?
According to a new Realtor.com report, there were 3.8 million fewer homes than needed in 2024. The report showed that it would take builders 7.5 years to catch up with demand.www.investopedia.com
Housing experts say there just aren't enough homes in the U.S.
States with the most homeless are generally blue ones like California and New York. They are also the most likely to have unaffordable, high rents and costs of living.
State of Homelessness: 2025 Edition
The National Alliance to End Homelessness is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization committed to preventing and ending homelessness in the United States.
In general, the bluer the state, the more the poor are fucked by the government and their policies.
The biggest population of homeless are single women with children who are marginally employable and have less than a high school diploma. They tend to aggregate in deep blue states where social-welfare benefits are the greatest like California, New York, or Illinois. That is, they go where they can live off the government.
New Survey Data Provides Demographic Profile of Population Experiencing Homelessness Who Lived in Emergency and Transitional Shelters
The American Community Survey 5-year estimates provides a demographic profile of the population experiencing homelessness who lived in shelters.
Homelessness in America: Statistics, Analysis, & Trends | Security.org
In 2023, homelessness in the U.S. hit a record high of 653,104, up 12% from 2022. New York and California account for 44% of the homeless population.
I will also add that it's likely, almost certain, that veterans are grossly overrepresented in homeless statistics. This is due to several reasons:
1. Almost all surveys use self-reporting on veteran status. That is, the surveyors don't check the veracity of the respondent and simply accept their word on it.
2. Veterans as a group are better educated, more motivated, and in better health than the general population.
3. Included in those with veteran status are ex-military who were fuck ups and discharged from the service for cause. While they retain some status as veterans, they really aren't indicative of veterans who served honorably.
You sure go out of your way to post BS. I wonder why. But you aren't worth wasting my time on. So instead, tell me the one point you made that you are the most sure you are right about. When I thoroughly destroy it, let that stand as an example of any of the other nonsense you brought up.
Into the Night
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That's right. They are living off the government dole.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Lives off the government dole
Yea, the working poor,disabled, elderly and children are all taker bums
Into the Night
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Into the Night
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No, LeftNut. You cannot use the Constitution to cancel the Constitution. You cannot use the Constitution to justify theft and socialism.
Into the Night
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You don't get to speak for the dead, LeftNut.
Into the Night
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It is also NOT referring to the theft of wealth by government to give to unproductive members of society.
Into the Night
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Capitalism is not a problem.
What makes you think immigrants are poor?
Good!
They aren't. They made money the old fashioned way...they earned it.
If they have what I want to buy, I will buy it. That's called capitalism.
Lie.
Lie.
Government handouts is not 'pay'.
Socialism never works, Sybil.
Into the Night
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No thanks. I built my business up, and it's successful. Why should I live like homeless on drugs?
I don't go in for Democrat propaganda.
IBDaMann
Well-known member
FTFY. The last time we spoke, you were looking through your sofa cushions and behind recliners for any spare honesty that you could find, but you weren't having much luck. Has anything changed on that front?
IBDaMann
Well-known member
I like it ... but roughly one in four people would guess that. For this question, I have a number that is not going to be guessed.My first guess: 3.142
The bonus credit points will still be posted to your account.