Why do Republicans continue to lie about Trickle Down neo-liberal economics?

[Mott the Hoople]

What has the social programs you bleeding hearts support except multiple generations of leeches that thinks someone earning their way owes them something. $22 trillion wasted in 50 years and all we have to show for it are the children and grandchildren of leeches continuing to be leeches.

Cause I oppose bottom up policies as being just as bad. I support middle out economic growth which is proven to work.

 

[Truth Detector]

Money is power.

When all the money is at the top of the food chain, we get Donald dump for president.

Another brain dead claim from a lying leftist. Trump was elected because Democrats are corrupt dumbfucks who supported a corrupt, lying, criminal candidate.

When people stop believing that tax cuts put money in their pockets we can then begin real reform.

As opposed to believing that giving the Government and faceless bureaucrats greater amounts of our hard earned wealth will somehow lead to prosperity?

That's moronic.

By real reform, I mean the wealthy paying all the back taxes they owe since Reagan.

Evidence of a clueless lying leftist dumbfuck who thinks its the Governments money and doesn't belong to this who actually EARN it.

They, racist white wing republican men have been stealing from this country and blaming Blacks for it for so long, its a wonder if white American will ever see it or believe it.

A straw man race hustling claim from a clueless lying liberal dumbfuck on steroids. You're quite full of stupid aren't you race hustler?

 

[Truth Detector]

The ONLY policy the right cares about - and I mean the people in charge - is moving to plutocracy. That's it. Everything else they do is to get power to do it, including pandering to voters to get votes for power. Let that sink in.

Knowing that, it makes since they'll use any snake oil they can to sell plutocracy. Leaving why voters fall for it, which in a word is ignorance - met by the propaganda and advertising machine of the right to push the con. They fall for it.

 

[Truth Detector]

As a progressive and an American I am happy to pay fair taxes for the good of the country - that's actual patriotism, not boycotting the NFL because players protest.

As a progressive liberal moron, you stupidly think the Government can't live with over $4 trillion in tax revenue and that it actually contributes to economic growth and prosperity.

 

[Truth Detector]

fox news lies

and right wing radio

its why they created it once the main stream news could no longer help them lie about it without having their viewers turn them off.

 

[Truth Detector]

That’s an excellent question as these Supply Side tax cuts have never once produced the results their defenders claim they do.

Really?? So when Americans have more money as a result of less Government confiscation, that's not a good thing nor does it lead to economic growth?

What a moronic claim.

 

[Truth Detector]

the heritage foundation is utter fucking racist right wing crap asshole

 

[Truth Detector]

What rock were you hiding under? Reagans Supply Side tax cuts and massive deficit spending on the military undermined what Voelker had been doing to end of years of stagflation due to Nixon’s policies to the point where Reagan back tracked and raised taxes. It was at that period when Reagan raised taxes and reduced deficit spending that the economy in the 80’s began to improve.

You need to go back and study the actual history of the Reagan era instead of relying on internet myth.

Your history is a pile of moronic bullshit.

Now back to the moronic claim that confiscating less of what Americans earn is bad and doesn't lead to economic growth, please explain, or STFU.

 

[Truth Detector]

I said racist right wing republican white men.

He doesn't strike me as one of them, but you do.

I suppose you stupidly believe you're the "decider" of what's racist too. Dunce.

 

[Truth Detector]

cawacky wants to get rid of the department of ed. He is for the voucher program and private for profit charter schools.

He believes that right wing racist white men have been throwing billions of dollars into education, but it doesn't help because Blacks don't want to learn.


He's a coward that claims he didn't vote for dump, but he supports and defends everything he does.

What a massive pile of stupid; you're quite full of it. YOU are what is wrong with America.

 

[Truth Detector]

Which would result in a $1300 net savings the first year then decline to around $600 in 5 years. Where as those same people would see a loss of greater than that on Medicare benefits alone and half the amount they can deduct on their mortgage. Where as the top 1% would average better than $150,000 annually and with the elimination of the estate tax the very wealthy will be able to undermine our democracy by turning our blooming oligarchy into a defacto Aristocracy.

And were fed the same old bullshit that has never worked. If we give more money to the rich to sit on we will all be better of by living off their leavings. History has shown that has never worked and if let go to long enough the inevitable increase in inequality (the only Supply Side prediction that works) will destabilize our economy, undermine our democracy and create social and political upheaval.

The facts are that our economy and income equity have been more productive when we have a tax structure that forces the very wealthy to use it (i.e invest) or lose it which keeps more money in circulation which grows the economy. Top heavy Tax cuts have never shown that they create economic growth.

The sad fact though is that for the corporate tax rate to be lowered then all the loopholes and deductions need to be eliminated as no corporation pays the effective corporate tax rates and many corporations use those loopholes to pay no taxes. This is the Great lie of the GOP tax plan.

The reality of this tax plan is that it is a great give away to the very wealthy. It does very little for the middle class and probably hurts them long term and it certainly hurts the poor.

The tax plan, if passed, will have predictable results. It will balloon the national debt, increase our deficit, increase inequality, create a permanent monied Aristocracy and long term those aspects of supply side reverse socialism will destabilize our nation socially, economically and politically. Supply Side Economics needs to be relegated to The dustbins of history where it belongs with communism, lazzies faire capitalism, fascism, feuadalism, Aristocracy and other failed socioeconomic systems of history.

The facts are clear. Top down and bottom up economic policies don’t work for the vast majority of people nor do they grow our economy. What does work for the most people and grows our economy is middle out organic economic growth by creating consumers.

The ironic part is that if Trump succeeds in his tax plan but fails on trade agreements and heavy investment in infrastructure it will be a great betrayal to his white working class supporters.

How does allowing the Government to confiscate ever greater amounts of our hard earned wealth lead to economic prosperity?

The war on poverty started four decades ago, have lead to the spending of over $22 trillion and poverty has grown, not ended or even declined. For anyone with even half a brain, that is a failure.

Do you actually, and moronically, believe that by making Americans dependent wards of the state, they are better off?

 

[Truth Detector]

^^^^
Any dem, progressive, libertarian, socialist etc. that wants to compromise or work with the logic above, supports institutional racism.

Its a total fucking lie every word of it.

So insisting that people can do better by getting educated and supporting themselves is racist?

You're a moron. A race hustling moron; the worst kind of moron.

 

[Truth Detector]

Cut taxes for the rich and cut social programs from the poor.

pure ignorance, hate and greed.

Pure ignorance and greed is the liberal progressive plantation turning Americans into dependent wards of the state. However, the Democratic Party of the Jackass needs dependency, race hustling and willful idiots to stay in political power.

 

[Truth Detector]

welfare mainly. racist whites think only Blacks are on welfare remember "welfare queens" rolling my eyes.

education - they never wanted Blacks to learn so they created the school to prison pipeline. They cut education and closed schools in Black neighborhoods

food stamps because racist whites think their tax dollars are going to lazy Blacks who don't pay taxes, and blacks are the only one's on welfare

They want to cut any spending racist whites think will help Blacks.

 

[Truth Detector]

No but how about we invest heavily in education, both college and trade, technical schools and lower tuition costs and invest heavily in infrastructure even if we have to raise taxes to do so? Those are proven to create middle out growth where as top down tax cuts for the wealthy never have.

You're ignoring the facts. No one is arguing that we should not invest in education or infrastructure. The patently FALSE claim is the moronic one suggesting that Americans should support a massively bloated bureaucracy filled with waste by giving it even more of their hard earned wealth.

You fancy yourself as someone educated in history, yet your eruptions suggest deliberate ignorance.

Historically, tax cuts have always led to more economic growth and a resulting higher level of government revenue. Our problem is not a REVENUE problem as brain dead lying liberals would suggest. We have a SPENDING problem.

In addition, corporations do not pay taxes. They collect them because any costs like taxes are passed along to WE, the consumers. I wish liberals had the intelligence and common sense to comprehend the OBVIOUS.

 

[Truth Detector]

Cause I oppose bottom up policies as being just as bad. I support middle out economic growth which is proven to work.

Middle out?

Link please. I'd love to see this economic theory.

 

[Cypress]

They worked great under Reagan. Take a look at GDP growth then compared to today.

The issue is politicians choose not to cut spending.

Nope, a myth promoted by Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and other dunces of the wingnutosphere.
Promoting a mythology of Ronald Reagan is a long established cottage industry.

The 1981 tax cuts blew up the budget, and was followed by the worst recession in history (prior to the Great Republican Recession of 2008), and resulted in historic budget deficits.

The Reagan administration spent the rest of his time in office figuring out ways to raise revenue and impose new taxes to compensate for the results of the 1981 tax cuts.
Reagan, it is argued by some, was the greatest tax raiser in modern history.

 

[katzgar]

More importantly, why does the Republican base (and yes, even the Democratic base) continue to buy into it? This will be what -- the third time? -- trying massive tax cuts. They don't pay for themselves, and thus balloon the debt. They didn't work under Lord Raygun, they didn't work under Bush, and they're not going to work under Trump. All they do is increase the wealth disparity between the rich and the poor (formerly the middle class).

Any theories on why the people are stupid enough to believe that tax cuts for the super rich will generate wealth for the middle class and below? I laugh at the pittance that the middle class will receive under these tax cuts.

they dont actually care about trickle down, anyone with an 8th grade education knows it doesnt work. trickle down is just a euphemism for tax cuts for the rich.

 

[evince]

You're ignoring the facts. No one is arguing that we should not invest in education or infrastructure. The patently FALSE claim is the moronic one suggesting that Americans should support a massively bloated bureaucracy filled with waste by giving it even more of their hard earned wealth.

You fancy yourself as someone educated in history, yet your eruptions suggest deliberate ignorance.

Historically, tax cuts have always led to more economic growth and a resulting higher level of government revenue. Our problem is not a REVENUE problem as brain dead lying liberals would suggest. We have a SPENDING problem.

In addition, corporations do not pay taxes. They collect them because any costs like taxes are passed along to WE, the consumers. I wish liberals had the intelligence and common sense to comprehend the OBVIOUS.

utter mouth pooping


there is no proof of your claims you stupid fucking dupe


then lets tax corporations so we can all pay for the things we need like i nfrastructure which BUSH refused to DO


like all you dumb fuck republicans

 

[cawacko]

Nope, a myth promoted by Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and other dunces of the wingnutosphere.
Promoting a mythology of Ronald Reagan is a long established cottage industry.

The 1981 tax cuts blew up the budget, and was followed by the worst recession in history (prior to the Great Republican Recession of 2008), and resulted in historic budget deficits.

The Reagan administration spent the rest of his time in office figuring out ways to raise revenue and impose new taxes to compensate for the results of the 1981 tax cuts.
Reagan, it is argued by some, was the greatest tax raiser in modern history.

I know you and Mott can both read well. Tax cuts don't work in a vacuum. I wrote they needed to cut spending and didn't.

Go back and look at the economic growth we had once those tax cuts kicked in. Like I told Mott, late 'SC game last night so I'm in shape to go poat the data but it's been there dor decades for us to see.

And it's not talk radio people who speak about it. I probably have more than a dozen books on my shelves by economists on this topic alone. Read what the people who really know are saying