Why do liberals dislike america so much?

[Into the Night]

what I see is polling science getting more and more accurate over the last 70 years

Polling isn't a science. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.

Polling isn't make believe

It often is.

The issue is the media will take raw data and spin it how they want.

The raw data is very rarely published. If it was, the media couldn't spin it.

Like for example how I always talk about the difference of sampling "american adults" vs. "registered voters" vs. "likely voters"
None of those polls would be wrong on their own,

They are wrong on their own. They are not science. They don't even comply with the requirements of the rules of statistical mathematics.

the problem is when people try to extrapolate from one set of data and pretend it's a different set.

No, there is no set. Raw data is not published.

So sampling "adult americans" to demonstrate something about electoral chances is stupid, because if you want to know how an election is going to go you need to poll people that will vote, not randos that are staying at home.

Irrelevant. Polls are incapable of prediction the future. So is statistical mathematics.

Now lets talk oversamping.

This creates a math error.

Lets say you live in a nation with 50 democrats and 50 republicans. You do a poll on whether or not you should ban pool noodles and you get responses from 60 democrats and 40 republicans. ALl you have to do is simply weight the republican answers higher so that you get more brought in line with your communities demographics.

Math error. Failure to select by randN. Failure to calculate margin of error. Failure to normalize against paired randR. You are not allowed to weight data by any factor. Raw data MUST be used.

This is what happens all the time when people go "herr deerrr they sampled more liburals"...

No, this is what happens all the time when people conduct polls. They do not publish the raw data. They do not conform to the rules of statistical mathematics. They do not publish the questions.

yeah they sampled more of them and weighed them less who cares.

The rules of statistical mathematics cares. You can't do that.

It's really not that difficult. it's very basic stuff.

No, it's bad math.

 

[Into the Night]

Who were you referring to here?

Having trouble keeping track of the conversation again?

 

[Rune]

America is still a great nation. Why do you hate America?

So MAGA is incorrect., you stupid hypocrite?

 

[Into the Night]

It negates any polls outcome. Garbage in, garbage out.

Actually, just garbage out. Polls are usually just manufactured data the way they are presented.

 

[Into the Night]

You don't know shit, retard.

Why is it that liberals feel the need to insult all the time? Do you really think this makes any difference in any argument you present?

Gas stations changed because vehicles changed,

Nope. Cars still use gasoline. People still buy gasoline.

and no, people don't like pumping their own gas,

Actually they do. That's why most gas stations stopped pumping gas for you. One notable exception if places like Oregon, where it's illegal to pump your own gas.

they do so because of the financial depravity that you support.

What financial depravity? What IS 'financial depravity'?

 

[Into the Night]

Again, you are an ignorant idiot. Polling is a science upon itself.

Nope. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. News polls are random number generators of type randU.

 

[Into the Night]

I have all the permits I need and then some.
What of my children and other young folk?
You shouldn't have to be born rich to start a business.
What happened to the level playing field concept?

It's still there. You can compete against Microsoft if you want to. No one is stopping you.
Want to do a better job than Amazon? Start a business and compete against them and do it better.
Think you can build a better cloud service than AWS? Go for it!
Think you can manufacture gasoline cheaper than Standard Oil? Go for it!
Think you can build run a gas station better than the one on the corner? Go for it!
Think you can build a better airplane than Cessna or Boeing? Go for it!

No one is stopping you.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

Who were you referring to here?

the image of the person I posted. she was a democrat that ran for congress

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

All you are doing is trying to support your stupid false premise that is the OP.
You are just digging in on your stupidity.
There is a poll to support every cause and also agin every cause.

You stupid poll is pointless, incorrect and as I said, needlessly divisive.
Other garden variety Americans are not your enemies, fool.
Your enemies are the Oligarchs.
Idiot.

I provided evidence. you can't refute it, so you whine. Your post says nothing substantive.

 

[Minister of Truth]

I have all the permits I need and then some.
What of my children and other young folk?
You shouldn't have to be born rich to start a business.
What happened to the level playing field concept?

Maybe get your state, county, and municipalities to stop extorting people?

 

[Into the Night]

You and your shitbird friend are both too young to even have an opinion.
The side you support has so disrupted the economy and the average person's ability to navigate business that a sucker like you finds his best career path staying in the military. I am disgusted.
If you only had a clue what we have lost.
I used to buy a business permit for $10 / year.
I held them in many towns.
Now it takes at least a year, plus a years worth of profit to permit a business. I could go on for days about the changes your fascism have brought about.
No point though since it would all slide of Grind's
pointy head.

Here in Washington State, a business license can be had for $99. Considering how far the dollar has fallen since the 60's, that's an excellent deal! That's equivalent to about 97 cents in 1960 dollar values. You want to complain about high prices? What has really happened is that the dollar's value has fallen against commodity prices a LONG ways. It's almost worthless now.

The numbers are just higher, both in pay and in the price of various commodities.

A dollar used to be a unit of weight. $20 was 1 oz of fine gold. Today, that same oz of gold is $1300.

Yes. Fascism was involved. The Fed itself is price controls on money. It is an oligarchy. It is fascism.

 

[Rune]

Here in Washington State, a business license can be had for $99. Considering how far the dollar has fallen since the 60's, that's an excellent deal! That's equivalent to about 97 cents in 1960 dollar values. You want to complain about high prices? What has really happened is that the dollar's value has fallen against commodity prices a LONG ways. It's almost worthless now.

The numbers are just higher, both in pay and in the price of various commodities.

A dollar used to be a unit of weight. $20 was 1 oz of fine gold. Today, that same oz of gold is $1300.

Yes. Fascism was involved. The Fed itself is price controls on money. It is an oligarchy. It is fascism.

Here and most places it takes at least a year plus 50 K -250K in legal services.

 

[Rune]

It's still there. You can compete against Microsoft if you want to. No one is stopping you.
Want to do a better job than Amazon? Start a business and compete against them and do it better.
Think you can build a better cloud service than AWS? Go for it!
Think you can manufacture gasoline cheaper than Standard Oil? Go for it!
Think you can build run a gas station better than the one on the corner? Go for it!
Think you can build a better airplane than Cessna or Boeing? Go for it!

No one is stopping you.

All lies

 

[Rune]

I provided evidence. you can't refute it, so you whine. Your post says nothing substantive.

You are a tool. A useful idiot.

 

[Rune]

Why is it that liberals feel the need to insult all the time? Do you really think this makes any difference in any argument you present?

Nope. Cars still use gasoline. People still buy gasoline.

Actually they do. That's why most gas stations stopped pumping gas for you. One notable exception if places like Oregon, where it's illegal to pump your own gas.

What financial depravity? What IS 'financial depravity'?

You define ignorance and are not worth my time.
You are incorrect on every count.

 

[Truth Detector]

Liberals are pathetic losers.

Yes, they are.

 

[Truth Detector]

Because we aren't being America anymore.

LIE and LAME. But you do support an ideology built on lies and determined to turn this great nation into a lawless, Fascistic third world shit hole; so there is that.

 

[Truth Detector]

Being American doesn't mean anything anymore.

LIE and LAME. But you do support an ideology built on lies and determined to turn this great nation into a lawless, Fascistic third world shit hole; so there is that.

 

[PoliTalker]

"Why do liberals dislike america so much?"

^^^

This has not been established.

It's baloney.

Most Americans love America. Liberals are Americans. Therefore, most liberals love America.

QED

 

[Truth Detector]

"Why do liberals dislike america so much?"

^^^

This has not been established.

It's baloney.

Most Americans love America. Liberals are Americans. Therefore, most liberals love America.

QED

It is a FACT you brain dead, petty, whiny America hating low life on steroids.