WHy Defend Israel and not Ukraine?

BidenPresident said:
you deserve to be killed
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Well the Palestinians of Gaza have lived under Hamas control for 18 years now so any "oppression" they may be experiencing isn't because of Israel. Why not show some evidence of your claim? Then we could discuss the matter.
 
America/The West/Ukraine has already lost, the question now is will Ukraine exist at all going forwards. The Russians are getting their heads around the idea that Kiev and all but the extreme West will be Russian again, Poland can have the West if they want it. Our idiotic and abusive assault on Russia my very well have caused the complete death of Ukraine.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
America/The West/Ukraine has already lost, the question now is will Ukraine exist at all going forwards. The Russians are getting their heads around the idea that Kiev and all but the extreme West will be Russian again, Poland can have the West if they want it. Our idiotic and abusive assault on Russia my very well have caused the complete death of Ukraine.
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You're obviously free not to answer but this is an honest question. Do you think America (and the West) was wrong for going after the Soviet Union during the Cold War? Were the Birchers and their ilk wrong for their anti-communist attitudes and views? Or did you back the West then and due to our post Cold War actions arrive at your current view towards Russia?
 
cawacko said:
You're obviously free not to answer but this is an honest question. Do you think America (and the West) was wrong for going after the Soviet Union during the Cold War? Were the Birchers and their ilk wrong for their anti-communist attitudes and views? Or did you back the West then and due to our post Cold War actions arrive at your current view towards Russia?
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We were right to resist the Soviets, but upon its death we should have kept our promise that NATO would not expand into Eastern Europe. Many people have been warning for 30 years that this was an idiotic idea that if carried out would almost certainly lead to war with Russia, which is exactly what we got.

What was not foreseen was that NATO and America would upon that war turn up so impotent as we have. With this war in Ukraine which America demanded America and NATO have burned up our reputations as badly as the CDC has.
 
Heard the other day from an expert that two years ago the Ukraine military, which was de facto NATO though undeclared, was the second most powerful in NATO after Turkey.

It is all gone now.
 
Jarod said:
Why Israel and not Ukraine?


They were both viciously attacked by an outside group.
They are both important to our national security.
They are both attacked by a group threatening our dominance in areas.


So, are you supporting one and not the other, if so why?
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Two things in the country is undeniably certain, the unyielding support of the Jews in Israel and Trump's hair spray...fuck with either and there'll be hell to pay
 
The reasons the Trump derps abandoned Ukraine is solely for Trump.

Trump's 'fortune', whatever that might be, is built on Russian money as he and his kids have admitted many times.

Lettisha James is on the verge of wiping his 'fortune' out. Even if she does not bankrupt him (which is highly likely), it is almost certain she will trigger the banks to call all his loan due to the 'fraud findings', 'the loss of collateral', and the 'massive material change' in his net worth. Any of the 3 are enough for the banks to call all their loans.

His only chance of surviving this may be a private guarantor who will give banks enough of a surety that they let him keep the assets. I think only handful of Russians or Saudi's might gamble on that believing the pay off on the other end, should he become POTUS would be worth it.

It would be a tiny price for Putin to pay, if the gamble paid off, to guarantee a few billion in loans to have Trump remove all sanctions and support Russia's war on Ukraine.
 
QP! said:
The reasons the Trump derps abandoned Ukraine is solely for Trump.

Trump's 'fortune', whatever that might be, is built on Russian money as he and his kids have admitted many times.

Lettisha James is on the verge of wiping his 'fortune' out. Even if she does not bankrupt him (which is highly likely), it is almost certain she will trigger the banks to call all his loan due to the 'fraud findings', 'the loss of collateral', and the 'massive material change' in his net worth. Any of the 3 are enough for the banks to call all their loans.

His only chance of surviving this may be a private guarantor who will give banks enough of a surety that they let him keep the assets. I think only handful of Russians or Saudi's might gamble on that believing the pay off on the other end, should he become POTUS would be worth it.

It would be a tiny price for Putin to pay, if the gamble paid off, to guarantee a few billion in loans to have Trump remove all sanctions and support Russia's war on Ukraine.
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What a fantasy world you live in....
 
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