Actually I've posted already quite a few times and I advocate both parties putting aside their isms and working together. Including I support vouchers
Why conservatism (may) have failed.
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Actually I've posted already quite a few times and I advocate both parties putting aside their isms and working together. Including I support vouchers
It needs to be improved, but Republicans want to do away with it and the Democrat alternative is better than no alternative
it's bad. throwing more money at it hasn't helped at all. I got no answers.
Yes, we need to spend it better. We also need to distribute it better, a lot of the problem are that poor schools are underfunded while schools in better areas are well funded. Poor schools are where we need a better impact to change the wealth distribution equation in this country
money isn't the answer..it's just not. Again I look at Baltimore.
I'd have to look at the student rankings but I'd wager it's pretty shitty compared to the country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore_City_Public_Schools
Anecdotal arguments are not very persuasive. Again, I advocate both parties get together, put the past and party politics aside and really look at the problem and create real solutions. A better educational system is better for everyone, including businesses who would have more consumers and a bigger pool of potential employees
I'm all for bi-partisanship.
But I do not see where more spending beyond funding the needs is going to give better results.
Better study habits/home life/family -I think that's where you get a pay off - not just "throwing more money" at it.
i like trumps plan. If you suddenly tie the ability of the schools to get paid with their graduate getting employed you just have to sit and watch education get better
cawacko
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They want to do away with education? You're starting from a false premise.
They just want to pay for their own kids. Society doesn't work that way
i like trumps plan. If you suddenly tie the ability of the schools to get paid with their graduate getting employed you just have to sit and watch education get better
something like that..it needs to better performance based
cawacko
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What? What is the basis of that comment?
Maybe you could tell me what Republicans want to do for education beyond their own kid's schools because I sure don't see it
cawacko
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School choice and promotion of alternative methods such as charter schools for one. The status quo isn't working in poorer areas and they aren't the ones fighting to keep it.
They aren't fighting to make them better either
cawacko
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What I just wrote are attempts at making them better.
Vouchers are a way to allow some to get out of their crappy schools, it doesn't make the crappy school better, that's what I was saying
cawacko
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Some schools need to be shut down or repositioned. It happens. And continually pouring money into a failing venture isn't an improvement
in Florida we give school grades based on test scores and graduation rates(?). If you live near a crappy school -you can go elsewhere
or you can go charter. Schools that receive an "F" for 2 years in a row get shut down. So there is a goal
It's worked pretty well.
Airstrip One
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I will admit, that while it's easy to beat-up on urban schools, the truth is that no philosophy will fix education right now. The problem is the atrociously inept level of parenting we see in America today. This includes the suburbs, as well as rural and urban areas. The complete lack of discipline and respect we instill at home, and in the community, means we are sending fewer students and more problems to school. Since urban and rural families tend to be more broken, the suburban schools will skate by as "better" statistically.