Why Class Warfare Works for Liberals

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

The millionaires and billionaires...
The richest 1% of Americans...
Wall Street Bankers...
The Greedy Oil Companies...
The gap between rich and poor is widening...
The rich are getting richer while the poor suffer...
The rich don't pay their fair share...
Tax breaks for the wealthy...

All comments designed and devised to play on human emotions. The overwhelming majority of us, do not fall into one of the categories listed above, most of us aren't ever going to be millionaires, Wall Street bankers, or Oil tycoons.... just not going to happen for us regular Joes. So the 'appeal' to emotion has a tremendous potential, almost all of us are prone to emotional empathy for the plight of the 99%. The next element is the emergence of the 'Me Generation' ...some people call it the "Millennium Generation" but I like "me" gen, because it ironically fits. Young mush-brain pimple faces who are now becoming young adults, were largely raised in a fat-n-happy video game environment without any real challenges or stress, and parents who neglected traditional parenting skills and raised a bunch of disrespectful little punks and degenerates who have no sense of decency or pride. They just want what they want, and for you to shut the fuck up, bitch. These are the easiest types to indoctrinate into the Class War, because they already have the 'greed' mindset instilled, and that enables them to envision a fucked up world of little "thems" running around, screwing whoever they could get away with screwing... after all, that's what they would do! So these punks can certainly see the "cause" and since they denounce God or faith, it's easy to become intrigued in a cult-like fashion, to the message itself. Yeah... fuck the rich man, with all his wealth... I need that money for ME! ...The ME Generation!

But you say, Dixie... That's not a big huge number of people in terms of the voting public, most of them probably won't even vote when it comes down to it... they'll be busy self-indulging and forget. And this is true, it's not ALL the Me Gen punks, it's a lot of others as well. We have a rather large contingent of just plain old liberal democrat idiots, who are destined to die liberal democrat idiots, nothing is ever going to change them. These are the people you often see on TV, articulating liberal viewpoints... looking like mentally disturbed and confused victims of alien abduction, as they try to speak as if they are the smartest people on the planet and know everything, because they read it in the NY Times. These people are largely too stupid to have ever studied World History, or know anything about Socialism or Communism, or why they are not something we want or need in America. If the Democrat Party came out tomorrow and said, we need to execute all wealthy people... these clowns would go along with it, finding ways to justify why it had to be done. Then there are the more educated elite pinhead socialists and communists, who are behind all of this class warfare stuff. These are the most dangerous of all the idiots, because they actually believe they can pull this off.... and they may be right!

History often has a way of repeating itself. When a society becomes dumb and stupid, and refuses to learn from the mistakes of history, they very often repeat them. We've observed it happen, it's not just a clever saying. Class Warfare works for Liberals because they can comfort themselves with an emotional 'cause' and feel good about their actions. This is why the Class War lines are so popular and we continue to hear the same ones over and over, because they resonate emotionally with those who need an emotional cause to rally behind in their lives. It's really easy to get pissed off thinking about some fat rich bastard with everything he needs and wants, while you muddle through your stress-filled life of paying bills or looking for a job, just barely getting by. If you're a Me Gen'er, you are discovering a part time job at The Gap doesn't afford the lifestyle you want to live... so yeah, let's all band together and demand the money be taken from the rich and given to the poor... like Robin Hood! Yea!

 

[Disillusioned]

You know, I feel somewhat akward about this, I am one of the generation you're slamming, and it hurts, it really does.

At the same time though, not sure I can really disagree about anything you've said, people do get angry about the people on top when they're on the bottom through no fault of their own(no sympathy for the people who are on the bottom because of their stupid actions) and when they see the rich(who are not an evil empire, sorry they don't coordinate that well) get richer. We've come up with reasons that they're rich, eg social injustice, white collar crime, a rigged system, rather than just face up to the fact that sometimes, life sucks, even in america, sorry guys.

Flip side being, the its all the next generations fault is a bit... iffy. The coming generation(US) are pretty much responding to the generation that said its great to only care about yourself(which we do) and work to your benefit(which we try) and if it doesnt work there has to be a reason(So we found one). You're the nice people who built the system as it is, and laid the pathway to bring us here, we would change but well, it's easier just to scream at the injustice.

Now that I've thoroughly annoyed both the anti rich and the anti OWS, well now I sit back and grin.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Class warfare doesn't work for liberals because liberals are too weak to exploit it. The right pulls every dirty trick in the books. They have no standards. They have no loyalty. We should not either. We need to respond tit-for-tat. Instead, we just stand by and get constantly knocked in the face while we sit and moan pathetically to the big mean stupid bully about how we should be friends. Class warfare is an excellent tool, and we should be glad to exploit it! The more class enemies dead, the better!

This is what weak liberals will never understand. And it is why liberalism can never be successful as a base ideology for the left. The right wants to call themselves liberals, they've taken everything else from the left in the past 30 years, so why not this as well? I say, let them have it! Let them kick themselves in the nuts! Good riddance! What a shitty ideology! Death to liberalism!

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

The absurdity of the right. What is greed? It is not wanting more than you deserve, taking from others while putting nothing in, no. The workers, the productive class, the creators in our society, they do not get paid nearly what they deserve. And the bankers, the CEO's, the parasites, they get paid far more than what they deserve, far more than their worth to society, which is essentially nothing.

And it is not greed that they do this, that they subjugate us, no. It is "greed" to want to be paid anywhere in the universe of what you deserve, to be compensated justly. It is "greed" to not believe the lies you are fed, that bankers produce millions of times more than the engineers, workers, scientists, doctors, and other ingenious and meritous individuals who make our society work.

It is "greed" that people should be justly paid for what they produce. It is greed to rectify the injustice of your pay being taken away to feed these fat bastards who contribute nothing to our society, and recieve all. That is greed.

To a conservative, the robber is justified in what he is doing, he deserves the money of the victim, and the victim is greedy for not wanting to be stolen from. What a disturbing and disgusting world view. Go be parasites on some other society, conservatives. You hate America, and America hates you too!

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

From the 40's to the 70's, our economy grew at an astounding rate. And where did the fruit of that growth go? To the average American. From the onset of the conservative rape of America, beginning in the 80's, when the conservatives took over everything and destroyed everything good about America, turning it into the wasteland it is now, the economy has grown at a mediocre rate, and ALL of the fruits of OUR increased production has gone to the 1%. It is absurd to believe that they are being paid in proportion to what they put into society. We don't need to implement Maoist policies to rectify this. That is conservative ignorance. We had already rectified this in previous American ages. Conservatives want to take us back to the gilded age, I want to take us back to the good old days.

 

[Bfgrn]

From the 40's to the 70's, our economy grew at an astounding rate. And where did the fruit of that growth go? To the average American. From the onset of the conservative rape of America, beginning in the 80's, when the conservatives took over everything and destroyed everything good about America, turning it into the wasteland it is now, the economy has grown at a mediocre rate, and ALL of the fruits of OUR increased production has gone to the 1%. It is absurd to believe that they are being paid in proportion to what they put into society. We don't need to implement Maoist policies to rectify this. That is conservative ignorance. We had already rectified this in previous American ages. Conservatives want to take us back to the gilded age, I want to take us back to the good old days.

Starting with Nixon, conservatives decided to create their own 'Nanny State' at about $30,000-$40,000 per person per year for taxpayers to fund.

Conservatives built the BIGGEST Nanny State in the history of the world...

 

[The Dude]

Republicans would be wise to ignore it. The 1 percent aren't voting Obama except the limosine liberals. They should talk to the $40,000 and above 75 percent obuma has attacked nearly every industry; how can the economy flourish.

 

[Lowaicue]

Whenever I see the words 'Class Warfare' on this forum I have to wonder which country is being referred to.

 

[Disillusioned]

The absurdity of the right. What is greed? It is not wanting more than you deserve, taking from others while putting nothing in, no. The workers, the productive class, the creators in our society, they do not get paid nearly what they deserve. And the bankers, the CEO's, the parasites, they get paid far more than what they deserve, far more than their worth to society, which is essentially nothing.

And it is not greed that they do this, that they subjugate us, no. It is "greed" to want to be paid anywhere in the universe of what you deserve, to be compensated justly. It is "greed" to not believe the lies you are fed, that bankers produce millions of times more than the engineers, workers, scientists, doctors, and other ingenious and meritous individuals who make our society work.

It is "greed" that people should be justly paid for what they produce. It is greed to rectify the injustice of your pay being taken away to feed these fat bastards who contribute nothing to our society, and recieve all. That is greed.

To a conservative, the robber is justified in what he is doing, he deserves the money of the victim, and the victim is greedy for not wanting to be stolen from. What a disturbing and disgusting world view. Go be parasites on some other society, conservatives. You hate America, and America hates you too!

Wanting more than you deserve? Ah this must be some of that divine plan thign where everyone is alotted exactly one television and three bicycles. Get real. As for the "productive class" most of the productive work is done with machines, you can spout the "we are the productive ones" lines in countries with sweat shops but here? really? How would you measure "productive to society?" What about the person who manages a restaurant, they are producing nothing, they aren't serving anyone, the aren't making food, but you pull them out and the entire thing drops into chaos(I've seen this happen twice). As for the scientists, how do you measure a "productive scientist"? Is he the one who produces "useful results?" how do you define "useful? What is a inengious and meritorious individual who makes society work? might that be somebody who seeing an idea that could benefit all from a man who has not the means to begin his work offers to loan him money now so that he can work to the betterment of all and still put food on the table?(I'm alluding to bankers)

Greed... Now, I would say that yes, most people are greedy, evidence? The lottery. And don't worry I'll come back to that. Now this wierd robber analogy, the robber, in this case is doing his theft outside of society's rights and therefore he is not deserving, and the victim deserves to have a weapon to hand and beat this self assuming prick to death(Go to any republican area in the midwest this is a firm belief, read Colorado's Make My Day law). However if it is legal "theft" then the conservatives would say ok, they might try to change the laws but well isn't that what they should do? You're suggesting that when you go into a large store and buy something you shouldn't pay because the people running it are already rich and you are not therefore they are trying to to steal from you "A good working class person" and you should keep it. Back to the parasite bit, you seem to work on the premise that the rich are a different type of person who, having money, stop working. I invite you to look at any person who wins the lottery and see how they act, they do all the typical rich things, they quit their job, waste money with abandon and generally make everyone in sight envious. Most people would LOVE to do that(I know I'm not interested in working hard but I have to) we don't hate the rich we envy them, and I really doubt they hate america, america is the system in which they got to be rich, they probably love it more than anyone else.


Nero I can't figure out where you fall on the political spectrum, you seem to be trolling both sides, I wouldn't have a problem with that if your arguments were better.

 

[Disillusioned]

Starting with Nixon, conservatives decided to create their own 'Nanny State' at about $30,000-$40,000 per person per year for taxpayers to fund.

Conservatives built the BIGGEST Nanny State in the history of the world...

Just a comment on your pictures, and the two graphs about incarceration, instead of looking at pure numbers, look at it in relation to the population, might surprise you. As for the other one, yes america has more incarcerated people than Russia or China, but how many more people do those countries just shoot? Guarentee you China does not have to go through four years of appeals before they can behead somebody who rapes and kills little girls.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

You know, I feel somewhat akward about this, I am one of the generation you're slamming, and it hurts, it really does.

At the same time though, not sure I can really disagree about anything you've said, people do get angry about the people on top when they're on the bottom through no fault of their own(no sympathy for the people who are on the bottom because of their stupid actions) and when they see the rich(who are not an evil empire, sorry they don't coordinate that well) get richer. We've come up with reasons that they're rich, eg social injustice, white collar crime, a rigged system, rather than just face up to the fact that sometimes, life sucks, even in america, sorry guys.

Flip side being, the its all the next generations fault is a bit... iffy. The coming generation(US) are pretty much responding to the generation that said its great to only care about yourself(which we do) and work to your benefit(which we try) and if it doesnt work there has to be a reason(So we found one). You're the nice people who built the system as it is, and laid the pathway to bring us here, we would change but well, it's easier just to scream at the injustice.

Now that I've thoroughly annoyed both the anti rich and the anti OWS, well now I sit back and grin.

I wanted to clarify, not ALL of the MeGen is as I described, I know some VERY amazing young people. My niece is one of them. Amazing personal convictions and courage! This "valley girl" (I once called her) was the typical carefree girly-girl through her teen years, going to the mall, painting fingernails, chasing boys... etc. She made the decision to enlist in the Army, where she served her 4 years, mostly in Afghanistan, as a Combat Medic. She saw some things that changed her forever over there. She was shot at, missed an IED by a truck length... saw the floating bloated corpses of her fellow comrades, and had to retrieve them from the floods... it was hell. I have great admiration and respect for her as a person, because of the sacrifice she made. There are plenty of others like her, and I know that, I have interacted with many of them. I did want to set the record straight, that I did not mean to imply all MeGen'ers are despicable liberal maggots.

A lot has to do with our culture, I believe. The younger generation has grown up watching Springer, Oprah, Dr. Phil... etc. They have hungered for raw reality... emotion! Everything is about emotional reaction to some drama or crisis... Survivor... American Idol... The Apprentice... We hunger for more emotion... more stimulation for our emotions... and society has become desensitized in a perverse way, just through our exposure to the culture. So now it is easy for a 'following' to develop and emerge, based on some emotive plea... the rich are getting richer... evil greedy wall street bankers are stealing our country... with social media and networking, along with YouTube, virtually ANY emotive issue could explode into a mass protest at any time. This is precisely what happened recently in Egypt.

The Socialist Communist elements who have somewhat successfully masqueraded as "Liberals" for the past 60-70 years, are now bringing the final phases of their transformation into the open. We now see them advancing the Marxist Communist theories they've always tried to keep from admitting they held... McCarthy was absolutely correct... we indeed DID have an entire network of Socialist Communist agents in our midst, and we are just now realizing this. It wasn't just those in Hollywood, but all over the place. In the 60s, Khrushchev predicted Communism would defeat America without firing a shot.... was he correct as well?