Why are the Democrats so happy?

[Damocles]

He actually said he liked the guys who weren't captured, because he wanted to denigrate McCain's service.

Most rational people thought that was the end of his political career at the time. Little did we know that he was re-inventing standards and normalizing the outrageous, which he has now clearly succeeded in doing.

Says the people who displayed zero outrage at Braindead impatiently looking at his watch while at a ceremony for the dead after he was nearly forced to go after his desperate escape from Afghanistan.

Seriously. If you had cared then I'd believe you cared now. The only reason you care now is the name associated.

If Trump avoids impatiently looking at his watch in front of the "angel mothers" he'll be miles ahead of your braindead hero.

 

[BartenderElite]

Says the people who displayed zero outrage at Braindead impatiently looking at his watch after he was nearly forced to go after his desperate escape from Afghanistan.

What "people" are you referring to? I'm not sure what you're talking about here.

What Trump said about McCain is unreal. Are you actually attempting to create some sort of equivalency here?

 

[Damocles]

What "people" are you referring to? I'm not sure what you're talking about here.

What Trump said about McCain is unreal. Are you actually attempting to create some sort of equivalency here?

Just as your braindead hero checking his watch in front of the parents during that ceremony honoring the dead... So impatient, he did it several times, once during the fricking national anthem.

 

[BartenderElite]

Just as your braindead hero checking his watch in front of the parents during that ceremony honoring the dead... So impatient, he did it several times, once during the fricking pledge of allegiance.

Why do you keep calling him my "braindead hero?" I didn't vote for Biden. I don't excuse this.

But an old man thoughtlessly looking at his watch is a far cry from someone proactively questioning whether a guy who spent over 5 years in hell as a POW is a war hero and letting every POW know that he likes the "guys who weren't captured" better.

My goodness. What's going on here?

 

[Damocles]

Why do you keep calling him my "braindead hero?" I didn't vote for Biden. I don't excuse this.

But an old man thoughtlessly looking at his watch is a far cry from someone proactively questioning whether a guy who spent over 5 years in hell as a POW is a war hero and letting every POW know that he likes the "guys who weren't captured" better.

My goodness. What's going on here?

You certainly weren't on here horrified at it.

My point is you blame only Trump for the lowered expectations, but do not object when leftists are the ones lowering them. It's like you cannot see it from one of the sides...

 

[AProudLefty]

I remember him saying it about those captured, because he "likes winners", I don't remember him saying it about people who die.

However, if he avoids looking impatiently at his watch as they return to the US he'll show incredibly better respect than your Braindead hero did.

Impatiently? That's your perception.

 

[BartenderElite]

You certainly weren't on here horrified at it.

My point is you blame Trump for the lowered expectations, but do not object when leftists are the ones lowering them.

Your weak whataboutism in some ill-conceived attempt to defend Trump is noted.

 

[Damocles]

Your weak whataboutism in some ill-conceived attempt to defend Trump is noted.

Nonsense. It defends nobody, it points out your blinders.

I point out what Trump said, what he is on actual record of saying, then note that if he doesn't impatiently look at his watch in front of their parents he's doing a better job regardless of what he said than Braindead did.

Stop trying to pretend you are some central figure that lacks an agenda, your agenda is often obvious. I get you don't like Trump, nor do I... but I know that it isn't only his fault we have lowered expectations in our leaders.

 

[Damocles]

Anyway, if I were an advisor in this craptacular administration I would certainly have him calling the parents of those servicemembers and absolutely meeting them when they return to the US.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Why do you keep calling him my "braindead hero?" I didn't vote for Biden. I don't excuse this.

But an old man thoughtlessly looking at his watch is a far cry from someone proactively questioning whether a guy who spent over 5 years in hell as a POW is a war hero and letting every POW know that he likes the "guys who weren't captured" better.

My goodness. What's going on here?

I don't think of POW's as "war heroes." War heroes do heroic things that win the war, whether in combat or in support of those who fight. POW's are just unfortunate souls caught up in a war.

 

[BartenderElite]

Nonsense. It defends nobody, it points out your blinders.

I point out what Trump said, what he is on actual record of saying, then note that if he doesn't impatiently look at his watch in front of their parents he's doing a better job regardless of what he said than Braindead did.

Stop trying to pretend you are some central figure that lacks an agenda, your agenda is often obvious. I get you don't like Trump, nor do I... but I know that it isn't only his fault we have lowered expectations in our leaders.

I never said it was "only" Trump. But if you can't see that he has done SIGNIFICANTLY more to lower standards, I don't know what to tell you. And if you think looking at a watch is the same thing as openly denigrating someone's extraordinary service to their country just to gain temporary political advantage - I don't know what to tell you there, either.

I know my "center" thing bugs people on here. But I think Trump has been a disaster for this country - mainly because of how much he has modified our standards. That's my focus at the moment, because Trumpism is basically running everything. I have no allegiance whatsoever to Democrats, and certainly none to Biden.

 

[BartenderElite]

I don't think of POW's as "war heroes." War heroes do heroic things that win the war, whether in combat or in support of those who fight. POW's are just unfortunate souls caught up in a war.

Anyone who puts themselves in harm's way to protect me, my family & my country is a hero to me. John McCain spent over 5 years in a hell that I can't imagine.

 

[Damocles]

I never said it was "only" Trump. But if you can't see that he has done SIGNIFICANTLY more to lower standards, I don't know what to tell you. And if you think looking at a watch is the same thing as openly denigrating someone's extraordinary service to their country just to gain temporary political advantage - I don't know what to tell you there, either.

I don't know of anyone that thought what he said there was an advantage politically.

I know my "center" thing bugs people on here. But I think Trump has been a disaster for this country - mainly because of how much he has modified our standards. That's my focus at the moment, because Trumpism is basically running everything. I have no allegiance whatsoever to Democrats, and certainly none to Biden.

Trump being in office is a reason to pay attention to him, however I do not remember your focus changing when he was not in office.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Anyone who puts themselves in harm's way to protect me, my family & my country is a hero to me. John McCain spent over 5 years in a hell that I can't imagine.

Whereas I see it as those who serve chose to do so for a myriad of reasons. Heros and POWs are often created by chance of the circumstances they find themselves in. How they handled that situation is what makes them who they are.

For example, on the Enterprise when I was aboard we had a major fire in Mar Det berthing. GQ was called and everybody went to their assigned stations. Rep 5 on the 2nd deck aft was the closest repair locker. They were the first to go to fight the fire. They sent down a hose team who had been told there was live ammunition in the space. As they entered the compartment, the cables for elevator #4's power shorted out in a big display of sparks and arcing.

The hose team dropped their firehoses and fled the space. The locker regrouped, and a new hose team was sent in. They managed to get the fire out.

I was in Rep 1A at the forward end of the hanger deck--locker electrician. We were not called on to fight that fire. Nobody was a hero that day. We all did the job we had to do and that was to put out the fire. We knew what had to be done and we did it.

 

[Walt]

Why are the Democrats so happy?​

The striking thing about this age is no one is happy.

I understand why Democrats are so unhappy, we have lost government, and worse yet trump is running out of control with the government. Past times Democrats have lost control of government, government stayed within the constraints set by the Constitution and tradition. trump does not play that game.

Why are trump supporters not happy? Could it be that you really do not want what trump is offering?

 

[Stone]

The striking thing about this age is no one is happy.

I understand why Democrats are so unhappy, we have lost government, and worse yet trump is running out of control with the government. Past times Democrats have lost control of government, government stayed within the constraints set by the Constitution and tradition. trump does not play that game.

Why are trump supporters not happy? Could it be that you really do not want what trump is offering?

No Walt. This has been explained to you many times. A LOT of us voted for Trump and are fairly happy with the results because we like most if not all of his platform even though we might not love him personally. POLICY over PERSONALITY. Much better than PERSONALITY over POLICY. Other than that I would have voted for my neighbors DOG over Kamala AKA the Old Ho.

 

[QP!]

I don't think of POW's as "war heroes." War heroes do heroic things that win the war, whether in combat or in support of those who fight. POW's are just unfortunate souls caught up in a war.

That is a pretty pathetic way to think of it. You are a sad person.

So you have two groups sent out to two different battles, one is successful and wins and the other loses and dies to the man all to protect you and your family in your home.

In your view only the battle winners are heroes and the dead are not despite them all laying their life on the line for you?

Did you always feel this way or just once Trump expressed this view of 'only winners are heroes' did you adapt your view to his.

The heroic act is 'putting your life on the line for others' and NOT JUST the result.

A fireman who rushes into a burning building to try and save another is a hero even if he dies in the attempt.

 

[QP!]

Nonsense. It defends nobody, it points out your blinders.

I point out what Trump said, what he is on actual record of saying, then note that if he doesn't impatiently look at his watch in front of their parents he's doing a better job regardless of what he said than Braindead did.

Stop trying to pretend you are some central figure that lacks an agenda, your agenda is often obvious. I get you don't like Trump, nor do I... but I know that it isn't only his fault we have lowered expectations in our leaders.

you are such a lecturing phony hypocrite.,

You don't think we see your agenda is obvious? Would you call out Trump for what he said if you saw someone mentioning Biden glancing at his watch? No you would not. Your whataboutisms are triggered in only one direction and yet you lecture others about that. Hypocrite

 

[T. A. Gardner]

That is a pretty pathetic way to think of it. You are a sad person.

So you have two groups sent out to two different battles, one is successful and wins and the other loses and dies to the man all to protect you and your family in your home.

In your view only the battle winners are heroes and the dead are not despite them all laying their life on the line for you?

Did you always feel this way or just once Trump expressed this view of 'only winners are heroes' did you adapt your view to his.

The heroic act is 'putting your life on the line for others' and NOT JUST the result.

A fireman who rushes into a burning building to try and save another is a hero even if he dies in the attempt.

I'm a career military veteran. I know lots of other veterans. If you were to ask even those who received say a Silver Star for heroism or a Purple Heart at your local VFW or American Legion post they'd say they were just doing their job. They wouldn't look down on those that sat in an office doing paperwork--somebody had to. They'd see engineers, like me, as unsung equals, for making sure they had the stuff to fight with.

I don't look down on the E-nothing veteran sitting on the stool next to me in one of those places who was a cook. That was his job. I don't expect special consideration for what I did in the service either. I did my job, he did his.

You know nothing.

 

[Walt]

No Walt. This has been explained to you many times. A LOT of us voted for Trump and are fairly happy with the results because we like most if not all of his platform even though we might not love him personally. POLICY over PERSONALITY. Much better than PERSONALITY over POLICY. Other than that I would have voted for my neighbors DOG over Kamala AKA the Old Ho.

You certainly do not sound happy./