Why are liberals afraid to answer this question?

Steelplate said:
I know....the Toomey/Manchin bill had it spelled out in black and white that any attempt to create a national registry would be illegal....but they don't let facts get in the way.
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I tend to hear, "I know what they are really thinking".... So it appears facts don't matter in politics anymore.

Today it doesn't matter what the people say, it matters what Corporate America tells you to repeat. Ask them who said it and they will say...........I don't know, it doesn't matter, I know what you are thinking........just idiotic.
 
Anti-Party said:
I tend to hear, "I know what they are really thinking".... So it appears facts don't matter in politics anymore.

Today it doesn't matter what the people say, it matters what Corporate America tells you to repeat. Ask them who said it and they will say...........I don't know, it doesn't matter, I know what you are thinking........just idiotic.
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Did you ever read "Greedy Bastards" by Dylan Ratigan? That book hits the nail right on the head...it delves into the banking sector, energy, healthcare, education, manufacturing, and the political environment that allows Corporate America to keep their profits and have the taxpayers help foot the bill for their expenses and almost always....their failures.

But they don't people to know that...that's why they spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the marketing campaign known as the right wing media. They use words like Freedom, Socialism, and interpret the Constitution to dupe millions of people.
 
Steelplate said:
Did you ever read "Greedy Bastards" by Dylan Ratigan? That book hits the nail right on the head...it delves into the banking sector, energy, healthcare, education, manufacturing, and the political environment that allows Corporate America to keep their profits and have the taxpayers help foot the bill for their expenses and almost always....their failures.

But they don't people to know that...that's why they spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the marketing campaign known as the right wing media. They use words like Freedom, Socialism, and interpret the Constitution to dupe millions of people.
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I'm proud to meet someone else not stupid as opposed to the crowd that repeats "hammers are more dangerous than Military style weapons with a 100 round mag"
 
Steelplate said:
Who said it was going to stop it? Should we repeal DUI laws because some people still drive drunk? Should we get rid if speed limits because people still speed?

Like another poster said...it will make it more difficult for them to get. They with have to rely on truly illegal activity to get weapons instead of the "wink, wink/nudge, nudge" environment we have now.
If that means I have to fill out an extra form for my next purchase? Big fucking deal.
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Actually it seems like what you are advocating is all revocation of guns, to 'prevent' those that do not heed the rules from being able to get their hands on them.

Well then, instead of screwing around with DUI's, cars too should be confiscated and no one should have them. Case in point:

http://gawker.com/dui-arrestee-was-celebrating-getting-license-back-afte-491130609

DUI Arrestee Was Celebrating Getting License Back After Earlier DUI

Illinois resident Erin James was caught speeding early Friday morning after she spent a night out celebrating getting her driver's licence back after a DUI arrest. She was drunk this time, too.

The 58-year-old told Riverside police officers that she had been out celebrating her restored license. She then blew a .155 alcohol content, nearly double the legal limit of .08.

“Ms. James purposely drove a car that she did not own to avoid the ignition lock device and was driving back from a Forest Park bar where she was celebrating that fact that she would finally have her driving privileges back after her 2012 conviction for DUI,” Riverside Police Chief Tom Weitzel said in a statement. “Ms. James is exactly the type of motorist I want kept off the road permanently under a new proposed habitual DUI law that I will be proposing in the very near future.”
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So for all you drivers getting sloppy on mint juleps right now, wait a few hours after the horse race, watch a basketball game, and eat a sandwich. Drive sober, folks!
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Anti-Party said:
"Since when do criminals obey laws" right. That's what you are getting at isn't it?

The instant you ask that question about one law you automatically ask it about every law. (unless you are bias and you only want it asked about the law you are against)

Since when do ALL criminals follow ALL laws? Name one law that has been made that has never been broken. Does this mean we should just stop making laws because it's just a "feel good" measure?

Speed limit laws don't stop some from speeding and endangering lives.
Murder laws don't stop people from murdering.
Rape laws don't stop people from raping.

So since when have we had the notion to stop laws just because they don't stop all criminals? The concept of; "Well they are going to get a gun illegally anyway so we should just let them get one at a gun store easily and faster" seems stupid to me.

With luck the police could be monitoring the illegal gun buy and the criminal could get busted. You might say, "doubt it" so I will ask you this. Should we drop laws because you doubt they catch EVERYONE. Or should we work on ways to improve the system.

Everyone has to prove they are capable to handle things in life. You cant just be a doctor. You cant just waltz in and say, "hey i'll be a doctor" and have people think "Well..........I can't tell he won't be a good one until he is proven to fail" You can't just go drive a car, you have to get a license proving you are capable. You can't just jump in and drive at any age and people won't judge that. They won't say, "Well, I guess if he does ok then I'm ok with it. But if he wrecks and kills someone then I won't be"

This isn't rocket science kids.
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Then what purpose is an Extended Background Check going to achieve?
 
Steelplate said:
Nope...just universal background checks... you can do it one of two ways... with every purchase/sale, or have it done once every couple years as part of our driver's license/ ID.
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But-but-but; what happens when someone "flips out" right after they were approved and the next "required update", isn't for two years??
 
Annie said:
Actually it seems like what you are advocating is all revocation of guns, to 'prevent' those that do not heed the rules from being able to get their hands on them.

Well then, instead of screwing around with DUI's, cars too should be confiscated and no one should have them. Case in point:

http://gawker.com/dui-arrestee-was-celebrating-getting-license-back-afte-491130609
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"...purposely drove a car that she did not own to avoid the ignition lock device..."

What say you, steelplate? :)

Annie, I think I love you. :chesh:
(just don't let my wife know)
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
But-but-but; what happens when someone "flips out" right after they were approved and the next "required update", isn't for two years??
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You can keep creating scenarios all you want.... it doesn't matter. This will get put up for a vote again... and it will probably pass this time...it's something the people want...if you don't like it....you can always start that armed rebellion.
 
Steelplate said:
You can keep creating scenarios all you want.... it doesn't matter. This will get put up for a vote again... and it will probably pass this time...it's something the people want...if you don't like it....you can always start that armed rebellion.
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At least you're wiling to admit the "probably" part; because it might stop you from committing suicide, when it fails.

Remember to hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. :chesh:
 
Anti-Party said:
The exact same purpose every law achieves.

A step in the right direction and a general understanding for Americans of what is right and what is wrong.
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How is it a step in the right direction and since when did you get to decide what was right or wrong for the rest of America?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
But-but-but; what happens when someone "flips out" right after they were approved and the next "required update", isn't for two years??
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Then it will be, "Well, we tried our best and the statistics have proven so. Any other educated discussions on the topic?"
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
How is it a step in the right direction and since when did you get to decide what was right or wrong for the rest of America?
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I don't decide, the people decide. The people run America, not Congress. Have you even glanced at a poll lately child?
 
Anti-Party said:
"Since when do criminals obey laws" right. That's what you are getting at isn't it?

The instant you ask that question about one law you automatically ask it about every law. (unless you are bias and you only want it asked about the law you are against)

Since when do ALL criminals follow ALL laws? Name one law that has been made that has never been broken. Does this mean we should just stop making laws because it's just a "feel good" measure?

Speed limit laws don't stop some from speeding and endangering lives.
Murder laws don't stop people from murdering.
Rape laws don't stop people from raping.

So since when have we had the notion to stop laws just because they don't stop all criminals? The concept of; "Well they are going to get a gun illegally anyway so we should just let them get one at a gun store easily and faster" seems stupid to me.

With luck the police could be monitoring the illegal gun buy and the criminal could get busted. You might say, "doubt it" so I will ask you this. Should we drop laws because you doubt they catch EVERYONE. Or should we work on ways to improve the system.

Everyone has to prove they are capable to handle things in life. You cant just be a doctor. You cant just waltz in and say, "hey i'll be a doctor" and have people think "Well..........I can't tell he won't be a good one until he is proven to fail" You can't just go drive a car, you have to get a license proving you are capable. You can't just jump in and drive at any age and people won't judge that. They won't say, "Well, I guess if he does ok then I'm ok with it. But if he wrecks and kills someone then I won't be"

This isn't rocket science kids.
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Do you plan on responding to this post at all, or just repeating yourself after your loss?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
And yet; it appears that your dreams died in the lower house, never making it any farther. :)
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Actually polls showed that people wouldn't vote for the Senators that voted down the background checks by 60% when 90% favored background checks (pretty much average on all polls)

People will use this in the voting process and you will sit around wondering why you lost. "I think it's because of the Mexicans" heh. Sound familiar?
 
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