Who The "F" is Trump to decide the fate of Ben Frankilin's Post Office?

I hope he drops dead first.

The Post Office has been in desperate trouble for many decades. Political leadership never dealt with the problem other than kicking the can down the road. If the final collapse happens on Trumps watch so be it.
 
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Apr 6, 2020 - The Supreme Court voted 5-4 on Monday to reverse an order extending the absentee ballot deadline for voting in the Wisconsin elections ...

You do not change voting laws except by Congress making changes in the law with the signature of the president.

No shit, sherlock......and since the GOP does better with lower voter turnout, it's no wonder that the conservative leaning SCOTUS would take steps to insure that. I mean, you've got the country on quasi-lockdown do to pandemic … which halves the work force and puts a serious strain on efficiency. Hell, Wisconsin conservatives are so sleazy that they threw public safety out the window and pushed to keep the voting schedule....knowing damned well that many would choose safety over voting.

The GOP has no shame …. and these pathetic attempts to justify/excuse their actions makes them even more contemptable.
 
Originally Posted by Teflon Don
Really? Where are the investigations? List them.

28 million ballots go missing. Yeah, I know "it comes from Breitbart" so your limited brain can't process

Find your support of mail in ballots?

So you are saying in 34 states the ONLY way to vote is mail in? Is that what you are saying?


I said 34 states allow some form of mail in balloting. As to the bull shit about 28 million ballots missing:

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/04/24/trumps-enablers-add-to-his-lies-about-vote-by-mail/

:clap:
 
The Post Office has been in desperate trouble for many decades. Political leadership never dealt with the problem other than kicking the can down the road. If the final collapse happens on Trumps watch so be it.

Not quite....to meet rising COLA, the USPS would every few years raise the price of stamps BY PENNIES. It wasn't until the Shrub & the GOP congress enforced an absurd requirement regarding pre-payment on retirement funds that things got seriously bad for them.

Like I told another poster, you think you've got something to bitch about now, just wait to see the price mark ups you'll face if the USPS does fold for privatization.
 
Not quite....to meet rising COLA, the USPS would every few years raise the price of stamps BY PENNIES. It wasn't until the Shrub & the GOP congress enforced an absurd requirement regarding pre-payment on retirement funds that things got seriously bad for them.

Like I told another poster, you think you've got something to bitch about now, just wait to see the price mark ups you'll face if the USPS does fold for privatization.

The post office is in much bigger trouble than that.

This operation must be funded by the Feds, off of taxes in theory which with a government that now raises so much of its operating budget via Generational Warfare means not taxes actually.

It is the dream/fantasy that postage rates should be all that the Post Office needs that is the major problem.
 
Mark up by users or through taxes I would say six one way half a dozen the other but there isn't government waste involved in private organisations

There’s private waste in private organizations. Tons of it. And all the tax dodging that goes with it.
 
There’s private waste in private organizations. Tons of it. And all the tax dodging that goes with it.

And then to there is driving down of wages, making America more and more the haves and the have nots....that is to say the lack of decency.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Not quite....to meet rising COLA, the USPS would every few years raise the price of stamps BY PENNIES. It wasn't until the Shrub & the GOP congress enforced an absurd requirement regarding pre-payment on retirement funds that things got seriously bad for them.

Like I told another poster, you think you've got something to bitch about now, just wait to see the price mark ups you'll face if the USPS does fold for privatization.


The post office is in much bigger trouble than that.

This operation must be funded by the Feds, off of taxes in theory which with a government that now raises so much of its operating budget via Generational Warfare means not taxes actually.

It is the dream/fantasy that postage rates should be all that the Post Office needs that is the major problem.

Not quite. I never said it was the sole means of financial support, but you cannot deny it's a major part across the board. Mind you, first it was the fax machine, then e-mail that put a serious crimp in USPS revenue. But compared to private organizations, it's still a better bang for your buck capable of more extensive reach in rural America and such. That the GOP pushed the absurd and unnecessary requirement regarding retirement funds is just a way to limit ballot by mail and a large democrat/liberal leaning union:

FYI -
https://aflcio.org/2012/1/19/how-republicans-crippled-united-states-postal-service

https://truthout.org/articles/the-gop-has-every-reason-to-want-the-us-postal-service-to-fail/



And remember:


In real life, however, the USPS is not funded by congressional appropriations. Rather, since the 1970s, Congress has required the Postal Service to simultaneously:

• Finance its own operations, as though it were a business.
• Provide mail service to every part of the country — and charge Americans the same (affordable) postal rates no matter where they live, even if such Americans happen to reside in rural hinterlands that private carriers ignore because they cannot be profitably served.


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/202...ce-bailout-coronavirus-covid-19-congress.html
 
Why? Try our healthcare system if you want an example. We pay double for less .
I don't buy socialist conspiracy theories. You'll have to make a good argument.
The government delivers the mail at cost.
Exhorbidant cost.
That is not what private carriers would do.
without the government funding them. You don't need to sell me on it.
Do you find the post office inefficient?Really? It is as good a service as you can want.
That meme about private companies doing better is flat our wrong.
Yes I do. It is a waste of taxpayer money. If other companies are just as good without being a tax burden... Well again you don't need to sell me on it.
 
You ever see those little PRIVATELY OWNED postal supply stores? They're not part of the USPS, but you can buy postal supplies and have your stuff shipped by UPS or Fedex. Also, you can buy stamps....at a marked up price. Bottom line: it is MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE to go the private route for your postal services than the USPS. A matter of fact, a matter of history. Period.
up front sure it's more expensive but no money from our tax dollars means it costs far less period.
The USPS has been paying for itself via stamp charges and USPS express services for decades.
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Where was the "gov't waste" you speak of? You want to pay hyped up prices just to satisfy some anti-gov't itch, that's your business....just don't make it mandatory for the rest of us.
Stop stealing money from the taxpayer because you're a cheapskate.
Dump's GOP predecessors wanted to union bust the USPS, so they enacted a stipulation that the USPS had to "pre-pay" into it's retirement fund by 20 years....an unprecedented move for any gov't affiliated organization...but one necessary for the GOP's future political ends. Disgusting.
Great, there was a reason why I voted for him. This is a reason to vote for him again.
 
Not quite. I never said it was the sole means of financial support, but you cannot deny it's a major part across the board. Mind you, first it was the fax machine, then e-mail that put a serious crimp in USPS revenue. But compared to private organizations, it's still a better bang for your buck capable of more extensive reach in rural America and such. That the GOP pushed the absurd and unnecessary requirement regarding retirement funds is just a way to limit ballot by mail and a large democrat/liberal leaning union:

FYI -
https://aflcio.org/2012/1/19/how-republicans-crippled-united-states-postal-service

https://truthout.org/articles/the-gop-has-every-reason-to-want-the-us-postal-service-to-fail/



And remember:


In real life, however, the USPS is not funded by congressional appropriations. Rather, since the 1970s, Congress has required the Postal Service to simultaneously:

• Finance its own operations, as though it were a business.
• Provide mail service to every part of the country — and charge Americans the same (affordable) postal rates no matter where they live, even if such Americans happen to reside in rural hinterlands that private carriers ignore because they cannot be profitably served.


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/202...ce-bailout-coronavirus-covid-19-congress.html

I say that the government is required to make sure that we have a functioning post office. I further say that from the mid 70's on it has been known that the Post Office needs to be reformed into something sustainable which I further say should not be on the back only of postage....that Federal Funds must be fed in. This retirement thing does not mean much to me, the post office was in trouble before this, it was never fixed, this is not at root the problem.

That does not mean that it was not wrong.
 
I hope he drops dead first.

White libtards want the taxpayer to subsidize corporations like Amazon. :palm:

The Citi report shows the USPS needs to charge about $1.50 more per package just to break even. An estimated 1.8 to 2.6 billion dollars.
 
White libtards want the taxpayer to subsidize corporations like Amazon. :palm:

The Citi report shows the USPS needs to charge about $1.50 more per package just to break even. An estimated 1.8 to 2.6 billion dollars.

Certainly not what I want, I want Amazon taken down.
 
Nothing is so fresh as to read self-proclaimed strict constitutionalists :rofl2: wanting to rip it apart to suit the whims of their beloved leader...

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Thats your usual ignorance. They were forced to fund pensions, not for today, but for the next 75 years. Funding pensions for employees who do not even work their yet. They are the ONLY federal agency required to do this.

its amazing how much bullshit you put out each day.....
 
Socialist conspiracy theory.

The number of hospital beds and doctors is not a valid metric for quality.

There can be thousands of hospital beds per capita and if you are more likely to die of treatable illness they don't make a lick of difference.

Even now Poland has a higher life expectancy than the USA.

https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/life-expectancy/

Poland pays about 1/7th the USA on healthcare.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/health-costs-how-the-us-compares-with-other-countries
 
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