Who says walls don't work?

I guess you forgot that Obama set a precedent for getting things done without Congressional approval, Admiral.


go ahead and check the newspapers I think you'll find that Obama is not in office anymore. I think you'll also find that Obama doubled the border patrol agents. Tomorrow morning when you get up take fewer stupid pills
 
You are, grandpa. The Berlin wall stopped nearly all border jumpers, didn't it? It stood for 28 years. How many border jumpers successfully crossed the Berlin wall in all those years, old timer?


You're so desperate here as to be completely stupid. East berliners weren't coming into West Berlin and overstaying their visa where they? East berliners weren't flying into West Berlin were they
 
nope but here's where the conversation gets sophisticated so I know you won't be able to follow it. Estimates are that Trump's wall will cost 21 billion dollars there are smarter ways to keep illegals out for a lot less money
Well, then you should suggest the "smarter ways"...proceed....
 
The old fool can say it, he just can't prove it.
He's got nothing but hate..let him rant...maybe someday he'll start to care more about his community losing funds/resources to illegals than he has hate for the president...
 
You're so desperate here as to be completely stupid. East berliners weren't coming into West Berlin and overstaying their visa where they? East berliners weren't flying into West Berlin were they

Nobody has suggested that "caravan" illegals have visa or plane tickets, grandpa. They are border jumpers.

The Berlin wall stopped nearly all border jumpers, didn't it? It stood for 28 years.

How many border jumpers successfully crossed the Berlin wall in all those years, old timer?
 
He's got nothing but hate..let him rant...maybe someday he'll start to care more about his community losing funds/resources to illegals than he has hate for the president...

He'll be dead before then, according to the actuarial tables, and his stupidity will die with him. :D
 
You losers are funny. Trump admits he owns the shutdown. It's DEc 27. A new congress is seated Jan 3. You think we can't hold out several days
to deprive to losers of a wall? Jan 3, the day we start dismembering the Trump administration like a praying mantis does a cricket.

This is going to be awesome. :cool:
 
Well, then you should suggest the "smarter ways"...proceed....


Pointed out how stupid you trumpsters are is one issue.

the solution is for Central Americans and Mexicans to understand that there are no jobs for them here. That will be a combination of fines that incent employers not to hire them and getting the word out South of the border. the only reason they're coming up here is they have an expectation of getting a job and that's Ttrump voters that are hiring them so quit being sleazy.
 
Well, then you should suggest the "smarter ways"...proceed....

There are no "smarter ways," are there? DEMOCRATS yap about border security but leave huge gaps that allow border jumpers easy access, promote "catch and release" policies, and benefit politically from an influx of illegals that are counted in the US Census.
 
Nobody has suggested that "caravan" illegals have visa or plane tickets, grandpa. They are border jumpers.

The Berlin wall stopped nearly all border jumpers, didn't it? It stood for 28 years.

How many border jumpers successfully crossed the Berlin wall in all those years, old timer?


5000
 
There are no "smarter ways," are there? DEMOCRATS yap about border security but leave huge gaps that allow border jumpers easy access, promote "catch and release" policies, and benefit politically from an influx of illegals that are counted in the US Census.


The real issue need to deal with is Trump voters hiring the illegals. If you guys weren't hiring illegals they wouldn't be coming here.
 
Pointed out how stupid you trumpsters are is one issue.

the solution is for Central Americans and Mexicans to understand that there are no jobs for them here. That will be a combination of fines that incent employers not to hire them and getting the word out South of the border. the only reason they're coming up here is they have an expectation of getting a job and that's Ttrump voters that are hiring them so quit being sleazy.
That's*not the case here or in many parts of the US....no jobs...You're just letting the hate cloud your judgment again..... If they were all working these "jobs" we wouldn't have to be supporting them....
 
nope but here's where the conversation gets sophisticated so I know you won't be able to follow it. Estimates are that Trump's wall will cost 21 billion dollars there are smarter ways to keep illegals out for a lot less money

Well Katz if what you say is true why hasn't someone come up with this cheaper plan after all these years? We have been kicking the can down the road for 40 years. It's time to shit or get off the pot.
 
Pointed out how stupid you trumpsters are is one issue. the solution is for Central Americans and Mexicans to understand that there are no jobs for them here. That will be a combination of fines that incent employers not to hire them and getting the word out South of the border. the only reason they're coming up here is they have an expectation of getting a job and that's Ttrump voters that are hiring them so quit being sleazy.

Poor old man, Trump has allowed immigration enforcement to go after the employers. Obama didn't enforce the law, grandpa.


Immigration officials have sharply increased audits of companies to verify that their employees are authorized to work in the country, signaling the Trump administration’s crackdown on illegal immigration is reaching deeper into the workplace to create a “culture of compliance” among employers who rely on immigrant labor.

The agency has developed a plan to open as many as 15,000 audits a year. Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies and an advocate for an employer crackdown, said the numbers show that the administration is following through on its pledge to scrutinize businesses.




https://apnews.com/4f6ebb97fd294c898d81737882816f22
 
Well Katz if what you say is true why hasn't someone come up with this cheaper plan after all these years? We have been kicking the can down the road for 40 years. It's time to shit or get off the pot.

You're going to confuse the old timer.

Grandpa katzguts shits in his Depends. He can't make it to the toilet any more.
 
You are, grandpa. The Berlin wall stopped nearly all border jumpers, didn't it? It stood for 28 years. How many border jumpers successfully crossed the Berlin wall in all those years, old timer?

It's not the number that made it across the Berlin wall, but the number that were prevented from crossing that is important.

ADDED: I was stationed in Berlin in the 70's and lived with the wall. Believe me many more were stopped or deterred from trying than made it.
 
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That's*not the case here or in many parts of the US....no jobs...You're just letting the hate cloud your judgment again..... If they were all working these "jobs" we wouldn't have to be supporting them....

Perhaps they don't let grandpa katzgutz read the news at his assisted living facility.

Immigration crackdown shifts to employers

https://apnews.com/4f6ebb97fd294c898d81737882816f22
 
Well Katz if what you say is true why hasn't someone come up with this cheaper plan after all these years? We have been kicking the can down the road for 40 years. It's time to shit or get off the pot.

Because a wall is pointless because planes, boats, tunnels, and ladders exist.
 
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