Who is willing to defend United Airlines?

Why? You think its okay for them to deny service even after they have sold a ticket?

Is it okay to use taxpayer police to remove him even thought he has a ticket?

What if my 18 year old daughter had a round way ticket to Hong Kong, and they decided for an arbitrary reason they were not going to fly her home after flying her there?

Is obediance the law an emotional matter for you.....if they return your money for said ticket, you've been reimbursed for their refusal to accommodate you as a passenger......

they don't have a MORAL obligation to you....
 
All of this speculation of whether the airline had the right or not, will apparently be decided when it gets to Court.

well where UA fucked up is apparently they did not put in the fineprint that they were allowed to take people off the plane once they had boarded. So that is why they will lose. I am just answering jarods hypotheticals and moral questions. In this specific instance UA was wrong, but not for the reasons jarod believes. Jarod thinks they are wrong because of his feels and because people should be able to enter into contracts and break them whenever they want. My argument is, UA fucked up and didn't add one extra line of fine print.
 
Is obediance the law an emotional matter for you.....if they return your money for said ticket, you've been reimbursed for their refusal to accommodate you as a passenger......

they don't have a MORAL obligation to you....

I don't think United's policies are the same thing as The Law.
 
I always obey police officer's legal demands.

I have often refused to obey an officers illegal demands.
 
They say airlines have to overbook to survive. That this man was being uncooperative and delaying everyone. That the only way to fairly get him off the airplane was to use force. I'm shocked people are defending the airline even my archconservative friends on here or not doing that.
Anyone who references overbooking/bumping in defense of UA, doesn't understand the terms.
 
Oh, so its not just blanket cooperation.

So did this guys ticket say he had to give up his seat if they needed it for employees?

no​ it didn't. pay the fuck attention to what I am saying in this thread you fucking idiot.
 
I don't know the answers to your questions. The facts as I understand them are that United needed four seats on the full plane for employees who had to be at work the next day early. They asked for volunteers offering a night in a hotel and $400 later $800. Not enough people took the offer so they randomly picked this man for removal as the terms of the small print on his ticket allow them to do. He refused so they called the police. The man continued to refuse politely, and so the officer forcefully removed him, knocking him down in the process, knocking out two teeth and breaking his nose.

If those are the facts....

What are your thoughts on United's policy?
What are your thoughts on the police enforcing United's policy?
What do you think they should have done.

I think the rights of a individual overrule the rights of a corporation in most circumstances.
A passenger should be forced to leave only when he poses a danger or when they have delivered him to his legal destination, in my opinion.
Sure...the law states that you have no right to argue when an airline tells you to get off of a plane. No doubt more stringent since 9/11.
A week prior, UA kicked two people off for the way they were dressed.

This man did nothing to warrant being tossed off of the plane. He may have broken the law by passively refusing to leave, but this story segues nicely into the common practice of police sentencing black people to death for 'not complying'.
 
I think United clearly created the situation, but the guy who dragged the passenger out of his seat wasn't a United employee. I'm sure United was just as shocked by that video as anyone else.

That guy could have been seriously hurt with the way his head hit the seat. No excuse for that.
 
well where UA fucked up is apparently they did not put in the fineprint that they were allowed to take people off the plane once they had boarded. So that is why they will lose. I am just answering jarods hypotheticals and moral questions. In this specific instance UA was wrong, but not for the reasons jarod believes. Jarod thinks they are wrong because of his feels and because people should be able to enter into contracts and break them whenever they want. My argument is, UA fucked up and didn't add one extra line of fine print.

All a lawyer has to do is show that United had other options to get their employees to where they were going and United is going to get their ass handed to them.

I'm making a prediction that this will never get to Court; because United is going to settle this out of Court, for millions.
The other possible suits, I'm not sure if they'll settle or go to Court.

I do think that all the airlines will be looking at revamping policies and procedures, when it comes to available seating and such.
 
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