Who is the real extremist on abortion?

if you really believe that you're a fucking idiot....

I don't think I've ever met anyone so ignorant of history. Women were traded as goods. Whether marriages were arranged between warring parties or for the uniting of families do you think the woman was chosen because she could B-B-Q a good lamb's leg over the camp fire? Do you think the Bible tells the Jews to kill the men and keep the women for "slaves" because the women knew how to get the "whites" whiter on laundry day?

Just what do you think my naive little bumpkin?
 
Funny you bring up the kid in the ghetto. If that kid works hard, applies him or herself they can become successful.

You apparently think there is some sort of defect with them. They must not be as smart as you right?

No defect. A disadvantage that others refuse to acknowledge. A disadvantage some political parties refuse to address. Like the Repubs wanting to raise the interest rates on student loans. Like Romney telling students to get a loan from their parents. Talk about out of touch with reality.
 
So you think all women believe in killing babies? Funny, my wife is pro life and is the one who showed me the light on offering no exceptions. Sorta pokes a hole in your misconception.

EPIC FAIL!

I'm sorry your wife lacks compassion for those kids who grow up in poverty and those suffering abuse and neglect but it's not surprising. After all, her judgement included marrying you. Need more be said?
 
I'm sorry your wife lacks compassion for those kids who grow up in poverty and those suffering abuse and neglect but it's not surprising. After all, her judgement included marrying you. Need more be said?

I will take her compassion over yours any day. Your solution? Murder. Yeah, that is real compassionate.

I have no worries, life has a way of sending messages to people like you. You are obviously a Margaret Sanger adherent. It is very telling that you talk about the ghetto. Guess you want to clean out all of those brown skinned folks. Ironic that you want to murder off your political base so you perfect blonde haired blued eyed white folks are left. Carry on brown shirt
 
I don't think I've ever met anyone so ignorant of history. Women were traded as goods. Whether marriages were arranged between warring parties or for the uniting of families do you think the woman was chosen because she could B-B-Q a good lamb's leg over the camp fire? Do you think the Bible tells the Jews to kill the men and keep the women for "slaves" because the women knew how to get the "whites" whiter on laundry day?

Just what do you think my naive little bumpkin?

that YOU are ignorant of the present......
 
I will take her compassion over yours any day. Your solution? Murder. Yeah, that is real compassionate.

I have no worries, life has a way of sending messages to people like you. You are obviously a Margaret Sanger adherent. It is very telling that you talk about the ghetto. Guess you want to clean out all of those brown skinned folks. Ironic that you want to murder off your political base so you perfect blonde haired blued eyed white folks are left. Carry on brown shirt

There is no murder because there was no birth. Try to connect the dots.

As for the ghetto remarks your lack of understanding is astounding. I'll give it one more try. More help is required for those children. More social programs. More government involvement. That does not include handing kids toilet brushes in school. And talking about schools all schools should be funded equally and private school vouchers should be done away with.

Along with your lack of understanding is your lack of logic as shown by your comment, " Ironic that you want to murder off your political base..." To make such an illogical statement shows your inability to comprehend the most basic logic.

Your faux concern about others is just a twist on the old "government help results in government dependency" talking point. How about letting those who need help decide for themselves what help is needed? Novel approach, huh? Just like letting women decide on what medical services/medications they require instead of having a panel of men decide. Of course, it has nothing to do with help. People against government help/social programs deliberately design them to fail. They design them to be inadequate and than say, "See, it doesn't work."

But people are catching on. They're starting to realize medical insurance can not be tied to a job when jobs come and go, when changing jobs results in a waiting period for benefits to kick in. As Obama said it's time to move forward, not go backward to the policies that resulted in the financial devastation for so many families.

You'll see the truth and logic after another four years of an Obama reign. :)
 
There is no murder because there was no birth. Try to connect the dots.

As for the ghetto remarks your lack of understanding is astounding. I'll give it one more try. More help is required for those children. More social programs. More government involvement. That does not include handing kids toilet brushes in school. And talking about schools all schools should be funded equally and private school vouchers should be done away with.

Along with your lack of understanding is your lack of logic as shown by your comment, " Ironic that you want to murder off your political base..." To make such an illogical statement shows your inability to comprehend the most basic logic.

Your faux concern about others is just a twist on the old "government help results in government dependency" talking point. How about letting those who need help decide for themselves what help is needed? Novel approach, huh? Just like letting women decide on what medical services/medications they require instead of having a panel of men decide. Of course, it has nothing to do with help. People against government help/social programs deliberately design them to fail. They design them to be inadequate and than say, "See, it doesn't work."

But people are catching on. They're starting to realize medical insurance can not be tied to a job when jobs come and go, when changing jobs results in a waiting period for benefits to kick in. As Obama said it's time to move forward, not go backward to the policies that resulted in the financial devastation for so many families.

You'll see the truth and logic after another four years of an Obama reign. :)

Why is more help required of those ghetto kids? Why didn't you need government help? What government help did you get over and above roads and cops?

Surely you didn't do it on your own. Why do the ghetto kids need help and your kids don't? Be specific?
 
Why is more help required of those ghetto kids? Why didn't you need government help? What government help did you get over and above roads and cops?

Surely you didn't do it on your own. Why do the ghetto kids need help and your kids don't? Be specific?

Parents know kids pick up things from the people they hang around with and from the people who visit the home, etc. Ghetto kids are subjected to those who have to struggle for survival so they pick up certain traits. They have no choice but to look after their own interests first to the point they steal, sell drugs, etc; whatever is required to get money to buy decent food and clothing. That is their reality. The same way people act differently in prison. Or the same way some returning Vets have difficulty adjusting to civilian life. They learned survival in a certain setting and just like we counsel Vets and convicts kids growing up in a street environment require seeing the other side of life. That's where field trips come in. That's where tours of companies and talks by business folks is preferable to handing a kid a toilet brush to learn about the work ethic.

Middle class families talk about life in the middle class. They got a new theatre system because dad got a promotion at work for coming up with an idea to stream line a job, not because dad robbed a delivery truck while the driver was making a delivery to an electronics shop. While both kids may be overhearing the conversation regarding time study, one involves increasing production while the other involves the time available to make the theft; how long it takes the driver to deliver a sound system, get the required signature and return to the truck.

It's a matter of survival. That is why when one travels to countries that have poor social programs they're encouraged to stay within a certain distance of the resort, not to travel freely around the country because people who are hungry and poor will rob them. And why not? They have as much right to survive as anyone else. If it's a jungle out there, a dog eat dog world, then why wouldn't people do that?

Now, if one desires a civilized way to live they'll ensure no one has to resort to crime. The point being there is enough for everyone. No one is being asked to do without. It's simply greed that supports the current system.

On the up side a simple change in medical care, government medical, would remove the need for people to hoard money for medical emergencies. When ones life depends on how much money they have can we blame anyone for continually amassing more? When is "enough" reached when one does not know what illness may strike or the cost involved? Imagine the money that would be freed up if people didn't require medical accounts or worry about making medical insurance payments. Can a parent afford to loan their child $50,000 or $100,000 for education when a lack of money could prevent them from getting treatment?

Is this so difficult to understand?
 
Parents know kids pick up things from the people they hang around with and from the people who visit the home, etc. Ghetto kids are subjected to those who have to struggle for survival so they pick up certain traits. They have no choice but to look after their own interests first to the point they steal, sell drugs, etc; whatever is required to get money to buy decent food and clothing. That is their reality. The same way people act differently in prison. Or the same way some returning Vets have difficulty adjusting to civilian life. They learned survival in a certain setting and just like we counsel Vets and convicts kids growing up in a street environment require seeing the other side of life. That's where field trips come in. That's where tours of companies and talks by business folks is preferable to handing a kid a toilet brush to learn about the work ethic.

Middle class families talk about life in the middle class. They got a new theatre system because dad got a promotion at work for coming up with an idea to stream line a job, not because dad robbed a delivery truck while the driver was making a delivery to an electronics shop. While both kids may be overhearing the conversation regarding time study, one involves increasing production while the other involves the time available to make the theft; how long it takes the driver to deliver a sound system, get the required signature and return to the truck.

It's a matter of survival. That is why when one travels to countries that have poor social programs they're encouraged to stay within a certain distance of the resort, not to travel freely around the country because people who are hungry and poor will rob them. And why not? They have as much right to survive as anyone else. If it's a jungle out there, a dog eat dog world, then why wouldn't people do that?

Now, if one desires a civilized way to live they'll ensure no one has to resort to crime. The point being there is enough for everyone. No one is being asked to do without. It's simply greed that supports the current system.

On the up side a simple change in medical care, government medical, would remove the need for people to hoard money for medical emergencies. When ones life depends on how much money they have can we blame anyone for continually amassing more? When is "enough" reached when one does not know what illness may strike or the cost involved? Imagine the money that would be freed up if people didn't require medical accounts or worry about making medical insurance payments. Can a parent afford to loan their child $50,000 or $100,000 for education when a lack of money could prevent them from getting treatment?

Is this so difficult to understand?

All a bunch of racist sophistry. But you failed to tell us what gobblement programs that made it possible for you to get by.

And why were you able to take advantage of these gobblement programs and they are not?

Your blatant racism is astounding, apparently you think that these ghetto people (your code word for black people) are deficient in some way that they cannot overcome their challenges. They need you to help them by offering them more gobblement services so that you don't ever have to leave your cozy enclave.

How liberal of you
 
Thanks! :) We had a terrific time! There was an illuminations on the water called "Reflections of a planet". Incredible! Along with the fire works there was a huge globe representing the earth and images were projected on it. Truly a masterpiece.

We took the meal plan so we were obliged to eat and eat and eat...... HA! I had Mickey waffles for breakfast almost every day.
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I even brought my own maple syrup.

The weather was great. 90F every day.

Went on the Space Mountain ride. Not sure why. Felt like I was going to die! Wayyyy too old for that now. :rofl2:

We saw the Cirque du Soleil. Almost 10,000 people attended. It was both humorous and exciting. Those folks are in shape! HA!

Chatted with a security guy and he said there were 64,000 employees at Disney World and it encompassed 49 sq. miles. I'm sure I walked most of those miles. :)

Absolutely lovely vacation. The attractions, the amenities and, most important, the people were exceptional. It was our third time there and still new things to see.

The only down side was we missed our cats. They must have missed us as they both slept with us when we returned although the lady who came by had spoiled them with all kinds of food. Four different food dishes. They never had it so good. :lol:

Love that waffle maker! The trip sounds fantastic. They must sink a lot of money into keeping it fresh and exciting. I was there once about 20 years ago and the only thing you mentioned that's familiar is Space Mountain. Did you go to Epcot and the other themed attractions?

I totally understand missing the cats. When we came back from vacation this year, my favorite ignored me for a few hours. He had to let me know he didn't appreciate Mom being away all that time. But we made up later (helped by a handful of kitty treats.) :)
 
you have a tendency to say things are happening now, then trying to document it with things that happened in the 1800s or even longer ago.....

When you suggest things I let you know if they happened in the past. For example, talk about orphanages if abortion is outlawed. There may be a shortage of children to adopt today but if abortion was outlawed that could add one million children every year to orphanages. There was a time when orphanages were "overstocked" and that wasn't pleasant for the children. Many were neglected and abused, both physically and mentally, so orphanages are not a solution. Been there, done that. Not to mention the Repub idea of cutting social services. What priority do you think orphanages will have when Repubs don't even care if people die from a lack of medical insurance?

Then there's the idea of private SS. SS was "private" for thousands of years, since the beginning of time. The government stepped in because "private" SS didn't work. The same applies to all other government programs. Every program deals with a problem private enterprise/capitalism/free markets couldn't handle.

Contraception. Whether the government outlaws contraception or pharmacists have the right to refuse to sell certain contraceptives both are an encroachment on woman's rights.

Things have happened in the past and they can happen again. Surely anyone looking at the laws that were passed under the Homeland Security Act realize nothing is off the table. Everything, no matter how absurd and/or archaic can be made into law.

The best example is smoking. If someone had walked into a bar 50 years ago and said people would be arrested if caught smoking they would have been locked up in a mental institution.

There are wacko people out there and if enough get into government there will be wacko laws. It's happened before, it occasionally happens now, and it can certainly happen again.
 
All a bunch of racist sophistry. But you failed to tell us what gobblement programs that made it possible for you to get by.

I don't know. I wasn't following government programs when I was in grade school.

Your blatant racism is astounding, apparently you think that these ghetto people (your code word for black people) are deficient in some way that they cannot overcome their challenges. They need you to help them by offering them more gobblement services so that you don't ever have to leave your cozy enclave.

Racist? Never heard of white trash? :rofl2:

How liberal of you

Thank-you! :good4u:
 
Love that waffle maker! The trip sounds fantastic. They must sink a lot of money into keeping it fresh and exciting. I was there once about 20 years ago and the only thing you mentioned that's familiar is Space Mountain. Did you go to Epcot and the other themed attractions?

I totally understand missing the cats. When we came back from vacation this year, my favorite ignored me for a few hours. He had to let me know he didn't appreciate Mom being away all that time. But we made up later (helped by a handful of kitty treats.) :)

We did all the parks. Epcot. Animal Kingdom. Magic Kingdom. Hollywood Studios. We stayed at the Port Orleans French Quarter. New Orleans architecture. We were able to take a boat to Downtown Disney. Last time we were at the Caribbean Beach Resort. The Orleans one had better rooms/furniture. Maybe the Caribbean one has been refurbished since we were there.

Every day up at 6 and on the bus at 8 or so to go to the parks. So many things to see and do. We picked out our favorites before we went so we'd catch the things we wanted to see otherwise one could spend the whole week in one park. LOL And we walked and walked and walked....

The cats check on me a few times a day now to be sure I'm still here. HA! They like to come into the office and peek around the corner of the desk.

It's back to reality. Well, except for conversing with a few posters here who remain on another planet. :lol:
 
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