"Who is in charge of the Trump swift boat project?"

[domer76]

Therefore I can be more dispassionate, Trump is bad enough but Clinton is truly effing awful. She will start a new full blown Cold War, unleash the PC gauleiters, spent a fuckton of money on chasing the climate change chimera, ensure that the UK is at the back of the queue for a trade deal and allow the crooked bastards that run Wall Street and inhabit the corridors of Capitol Hill to carry on business as usual. Trump wants to drain the swamp, Clinton just wants to fill it up with even more effluent.

Don't you have any decent women politicians like our Theresa May?

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lol

Sure she will...

 

[Althea]

The Clinton campaign’s recent attacks on Donald Trump for his comments about a beauty queen’s weight problems were months in the making, according to an opposition research report uncovered in emails released by WikiLeaks on Sunday.

Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton invoked those comments during the first presidential debate on Sept. 26. Near the end of the showdown, during a sustained riff about the Republican nominee's past remarks about women, Clinton cited the case of Miss Universe 1996 Alicia Machado.

“And one of the worst things he said was about a woman in a beauty contest,” Clinton said. “He loves beauty contests, supporting them and hanging around them. And he called this woman ‘Miss Piggy.’ Then he called her ‘Miss Housekeeping,’ because she was Latina. Donald, she has a name.”

Trump responded: “Where did you find this?”

The answer is: in a 157-page opposition research file that Clinton’s campaign had been using since at least Dec. 19, 2015, the day research director Tony Carrk emailed it – and research files on Sens. Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio – to Clinton Campaign Chairman John Podesta. Podesta’s emails were subsequently hacked and more than

then don't give me shit about what you won't read.
It's in the OP I bolded it, and quoted it and put quotes in the thread title.

Here's your OP with no citation.

Please show me the bold text



So...you have 'swift boat' in quotations, which leads one to believe that you feel that way.

Are you saying that you don't believe there is any correlation between this campaign, and the Bush Swift Boat fraud?

 

[cancel2 2022]

The big difference is that the Swift Boat shit was untrue, this "Mrs. Piggy" stuff is true!

There is a sliver of truth but no more than that. Why shouldn't he get upset when she puts on a fuckton of weight whilst still the reigning Miss Universe ffs! Who wants a beauty queen to look like Rosie O'Donnell or Roseanne Barr? Don't you think that the bosses of a film studio would get pretty pissed off if an actor/actress put on loads of weight whilst filming? You can be damn sure it would be in their contract.

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[Althea]

Therefore I can be more dispassionate, Trump is bad enough but Clinton is truly effing awful. She will start a new full blown Cold War, unleash the PC gauleiters, spent a fuckton of money on chasing the climate change chimera, ensure that the UK is at the back of the queue for a trade deal and allow the crooked bastards that run Wall Street and inhabit the corridors of Capitol Hill to carry on business as usual. Trump wants to drain the swamp, Clinton just wants to fill it up with even more effluent.

Don't you have any decent women politicians like our Theresa May?

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You can be dispassionate because this has no immediate affect on you. I can be dispassionate because I know there is no fighting against the corporations that own this country.

I was equally critical of bogus claims made by/against Bernie.

The truth always lies in the middle.

Anatta is off the rails.

 

[Jarod]

There is a sliver of truth but no more than that. Why shouldn't he get upset when she puts on a fuckton of weight whilst still the reigning Miss Universe! Don't you think that the bosses of a film studio would get pretty pissed off if an actor/actress put on loads of weight whilst filming? You can be damn sure it would be in their contract.

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Trump explained that. It was not the fact that Trump was upset at her for gaining weight, its that he called a woman Mrs. Piggy for gaining weight. Its incredibly insensitive and obnoxious and fits right in with the problem people have with Trump. The allegations President Clinton made against Trump in that debate were absolutely TRUE, not a sliver true.

The allegations made against Kerry regarding his time serving America in Vietnam were 100% FALSE.

 

[anatta]

Here's your OP with no citation.

Please show me the bold text



So...you have 'swift boat' in quotations, which leads one to believe that you feel that way.

Are you saying that you don't believe there is any correlation between this campaign, and the Bush Swift Boat fraud?

ah. OK I had to split the OP- 3rd post down I bolded it,and linked it there...too wordy. I could see how you missed it.

I would advise you to take Fox seriously if you want any coverage beside the MS noise. your choice.

I would never have used "swiftboated" -it's inaccurate,
what is newsworthy here is how ClintonWorld looks at their opposition research as such.

 

[Althea]

of course i "realized"she was her next POTUS - am I supposed to just get in line for a lying warmonger?..

So you apologize for the moron comment
( accepted -it's water under the bridge and I am used to butting heads with you -it doesn't mean we aren't friends)

and then this about the Emails??

I don't know if you were on DCJ 2. But i've been covering the Emails scandal since it broke in the NYTimes.
Every damn Dem told me for months I was "obsessed"as the story unfolded.

Most people can't put it together -but start from the premise EVERYTHING she said at the United nations speech ( March 2015)
and going forward has been a lie or at minimum a deflection.

This isn't some small potato like an Access Hollywood" remark on an open mic -it's who she is.
Her character is to deceive and aggregate money,, and now power, regardless of where it takes her -
and it takes her to some really disgusting,dark places.

It's why she is so slimey close to the Wall st crowd where she said the are best able to regulate themselves.

* eewe ..ick..grotesque* -she's an enemy of accountability and transparency as well as a corporate stooge/

The reason I worry about your mental state, is because you rush here with leaked information, and then present it as if this isn't the way our bogus political system has been working for all of our lives.

So you peep into private communications, as if Trump's private communications are not exactly the same.

 

[cancel2 2022]

You can be dispassionate because this has no immediate affect on you. I can be dispassionate because I know there is no fighting against the corporations that own this country.

I was equally critical of bogus claims made by/against Bernie.

The truth always lies in the middle.

Anatta is off the rails.

Oh so starting a full blown Cold War, spending countless billions on the CAGW hysteria etc etc has no effect on us then, are you truly that simple?

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[anatta]

You can be dispassionate because this has no immediate affect on you. I can be dispassionate because I know there is no fighting against the corporations that own this country.

I was equally critical of bogus claims made by/against Bernie.

The truth always lies in the middle.

Anatta is off the rails.

The truth lies in the middle only if you can see both sides.
The Democrats are so focused on Team Clinton-they are missing the underlying truth about her.

She is part of the plutocratic problem -she's one of them,and answers to their interests.
This besides her personal character in one of human garbage. That's an observation based on her personal character.

 

[cancel2 2022]

Trump explained that. It was not the fact that Trump was upset at her for gaining weight, its that he called a woman Mrs. Piggy for gaining weight. Its incredibly insensitive and obnoxious and fits right in with the problem people have with Trump. The allegations President Clinton made against Trump in that debate were absolutely TRUE, not a sliver true.

The allegations made against Kerry regarding his time serving America in Vietnam were 100% FALSE.

The debate was supposed to be about issues not about what he did it didn't say to a Miss Universe nearly twenty years ago ffs. Do we actually have any substantive evidence for that or is it just her testimony?

I haven't said anything about Kerry and consider the Swiftboat allegations to be 100% bullshit.

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[Althea]

There is a sliver of truth but no more than that. Why shouldn't he get upset when she puts on a fuckton of weight whilst still the reigning Miss Universe ffs! Who wants a beauty queen to look like Rosie O'Donnell or Roseanne Barr? Don't you think that the bosses of a film studio would get pretty pissed off if an actor/actress put on loads of weight whilst filming? You can be damn sure it would be in their contract.

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First....15 lbs. or less is not a 'fuckton of weight'. Second...I'm betting that movie contracts have clauses about that, whereas this pageant has no such contractual issue.

Add to that the fact that 'Miss Piggy' is not the only issue with Trump when it comes to women. He started it in the primaries, and stayed with it because his base loves that kind of talk.

So it has less to do with any one incident, and more about the trend.

 

[evince]

you are running aguywho claims to be a billionaire stupid

 

[Althea]

Oh so starting a full blown Cold War, spending countless billions on the CAGW hysteria etc etc has no effect on us then, are you truly that simple?

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How much credit does Putin get here? He just blew past your fleet the other day, and had you guys fretting. Did it occur to you that she might be more apt to stand up to Putin, while remaining unprovoked by his actions/rhetoric?

 

[anatta]

The reason I worry about your mental state, is because you rush here with leaked information, and then present it as if this isn't the way our bogus political system has been working for all of our lives.

So you peep into private communications, as if Trump's private communications are not exactly the same.

C'mon. leaked has nothing to do with it -if it wasn't true, you can be sure the Clintonistas would be howling about the contents.
Instead they don't -and try to shoot the messenger.

Stop worrying about me! lol. like the bible says :
"first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye." ( to avoid being a hypocrite).

If our worthless MS press had any interest in investigation, rather then cheerleading, maybe wiki wouldn't be alone.
Meanwhile they provide the only window to the closed doors of the Machine

 

[cancel2 2022]

First....15 lbs. or less is not a 'fuckton of weight'. Second...I'm betting that movie contracts have clauses about that, whereas this pageant has no such contractual issue.

Add to that the fact that 'Miss Piggy' is not the only issue with Trump when it comes to women. He started it in the primaries, and stayed with it because his base loves that kind of talk.

So it has less to do with any one incident, and more about the trend.

Give me a break, 15 pounds is a fuckton if you only weigh around 8 stone or 112 pounds to start with.

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[Jarod]

The truth lies in the middle only if you can see both sides.
The Democrats are so focused on Team Clinton-they are missing the underlying truth about her.

She is part of the plutocratic problem -she's one of them,and answers to their interests.
This besides her personal character in one of human garbage. That's an observation based on her personal character.

I am not missing the underlying truth about her. I am simply pushing hard for the candidate who is mentally healthy enough to run the nation while being a healthy roll model for my children. I don't want the youth of America to see an example of how Bullying gets one ahead, I want them to see that hard work and preparedness gets one ahead. I understand Clinton is as corrupt as the last 5 presidents.

Dedication to a project and accomplishing a goal without name calling and trading on stereotypes, being truly good at something, and using facts and reality to attain a goal is an example I want for my children. I don't want them to see someone who blames others every time he fails, I don't want them to see stereotyping and scapegoating result in someone winning the election for president of the United States.

 

[Althea]

The truth lies in the middle only if you can see both sides.
The Democrats are so focused on Team Clinton-they are missing the underlying truth about her.

She is part of the plutocratic problem -she's one of them,and answers to their interests.
This besides her personal character in one of human garbage. That's an observation based on her personal character.

Dems had a choice between Clinton, and your crazy Jewish uncle who calls himself a Socialist. He just kept shouting 'FREE STUFF'.

We don't know how he would be as the Commander In Chief. WE don't know what his alternatives are to his policies that won't get past Congress.


Why do you think I'm done voting for POTUS?

 

[Jarod]

Are you guys saying it was unfair of Clinton to bring up the fact that he called this woman "Mrs. Piggy" and embarrassed her on national television?

 

[anatta]

How much credit does Putin get here? He just blew past your fleet the other day, and had you guys fretting. Did it occur to you that she might be more apt to stand up to Putin, while remaining unprovoked by his actions/rhetoric?

or continuing blindly down the path of Cold War 2.0 because of our mono-polar madness?

Putin is a superior player to Obama's fecklessness -he knows Obama will fold like a cheap suit.
The red line in Syria was the classic ex, but also they way Obama treats US allies .

I've yet to hear how "tough on Putin" is gonna change anything..How about TALKING to Putin?
Open up some dialog ( as Trump has said) even on some low levelhot spots, and learn this is a dipolar world?

Clinton remain bellicose as the default position..
he Dems have lost there way on foreign policy,and her interventionism isn't the way to get back on track.

 

[Althea]

C'mon. leaked has nothing to do with it -if it wasn't true, you can be sure the Clintonistas would be howling about the contents.
Instead they don't -and try to shoot the messenger.

I never said it isn't true. I said it's true of EVERY candidate in history. You just seem to present it with such horror, as if it isn't SOP in politics.