Who gets into heaven

[Into the Night]

I've read about 20 book on fascism in the past month. Twenty more than you read in your entire life.

Stop making shit up, Hugo. You don't even know what the word 'fascism' means.

 

[Into the Night]

I've read Dawkins. Have you? Be honest

Stop making shit up, Hugo. You already admitted you never read Dawkins.

 

[Into the Night]

Goodnight.

Termination fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Which I do not agree with.

It doesn't matter if you agree with them or not, Hugo. The fact is such evidence exists and there is nothing you can do about it.

 

[Into the Night]

bye

Another fake ignore, Hugo?

 

[Matt Dillon]

^^ Incoherent. At the time Proverbs was written, the Israelites had no distinct concept of heaven, a spiritual afterlife, or resurrection

 

[Matt Dillon]

^^ Incoherent. At the time Proverbs was written, the Israelites had no distinct concept of heaven, a spiritual afterlife, or resurrection

At the time Proverbs was written, that's God's word, douchebag.

 

[James]

The people who get into Heaven are the people who all those people who know them can totally trust with their lives. It's as simple as that.

 

[Hume]

Impartial, unmediated, and ontological truth cannot be apprehend by the human mind

How can anything be an ontological truth without the human mind?

 

[Hume]

1) The universe is infinitely old, and does not require creation (this idea can be dismissed on the basis of logic and science).

"Old" implies a time measure. Thus, a history.
No idea what "logic" dismisses the idea of an uncreated universe. Please state it.

 

[gmark77]

You didnt even bother to answer the fucking question did you? Lets try a third time. see if you can focus

Explain how you would know to brush your teeth to keep them from rotting out of that hollow melon you call a head, if someone hadn't told you.

Wow. Still can't understand why you should brush your teeth.

Ewwwwww. You must reek.

 

[Hume]

3) Something outside the universe is responsible for it's origination and it's lawful mathematical organization.

This is pure mysticism. If something is outside the universe then nothing can be said about it.

 

[Margot]

To get into Heaven ,you have to have the Passover Angel ,Passover you at the Harvest! How? Eat the Flesh ,Drink the Blood of the Passover Lamb!

 

[Cypress]

How can anything be an ontological truth without the human mind?

Ontology by definition is being independent of the human mind.
Epistemology is reality as mediated by the human mind.

 

[Hume]

Ontology by definition is being independent of the human mind.

It is not.

 

[Hume]

Epistemology is reality as mediated by the human mind.

Epistemology is the theory of knowledge.

 

[Hume]

Ontology by definition is being independent of the human mind.

Ontology just means what kind of object is it.

 

[Cypress]

This is pure mysticism. If something is outside the universe then nothing can be said about it.

It's the only inference that isn't logically incoherent. The alternative ideas of something coming from nothing, or infinitely old eternal universes are unintelligible and incoherent.

The immaterial is not by definition mystical. I could name several examples of immaterial transcendent non-physical realities that are stable and independent of mind.

 

[Hume]

infinity old eternal universes are unintelligible and incoherent.

Again, you use "infinity" as a measure of time. If the universe has always been around then there is not history of its coming to be.

 

[Cypress]

Again, you use "infinity" as a measure of time. If the universe has always been around then there is not history of its coming to be.

We experience this universe as temporal. Time is not something we can pretend doesn't exist.
It's logically incoherent to believe the universe is infinitely old, and we can therefore just sweep an origin or creation under the carpet. In an infinitely old universe we would have had to traverse an infinite amount of time to arrive at today. That idea is incoherent, illogical, unintelligible, because today would never have gotten here if that were the case.