If you think the person who gets food stamps, or Medicare, or Medicaid, or Pell Grants is the main beneficiary of the program you live in the fantasy world. Many businesses would not exist without government programs to keep them wealthy.
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If you think the person who gets food stamps, or Medicare, or Medicaid, or Pell Grants is the main beneficiary of the program you live in the fantasy world. Many businesses would not exist without government programs to keep them wealthy.
Garbage.
Not if you actually bother to check any facts rather than give knee-jerk ideological responses.
What insane garbage is this. Do you ever say anything that has and truth or value in it.
All the time, you just can't recognize it. You never refute any facts, just dispute the truth.
Stringfellow Hawk
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If you think the person who gets food stamps, or Medicare, or Medicaid, or Pell Grants is the main beneficiary of the program you live in the fantasy world. Many businesses would not exist without government programs to keep them wealthy.
Like Elon Musk?
Like Elon Musk?
Not sure how much of his money is due to government programs. I'm sure many people would buy Teslas even if they did not get a tax break. I don't think the tax credits for Tesla still exist.
Stringfellow Hawk
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Not sure how much of his money is due to government programs. I'm sure many people would buy Teslas even if they did not get a tax break. I don't think the tax credits for Tesla still exist.
He received many grants and loans many of which required no repayment
Corporations and the wealthy support Democrats as much as Republicans. The bottom half pays virtually no income tax because the top 50% pay 96% of federal income taxes (over 100% if we include the earned income tax credit).
The argument is that government programs often benefit the wealthy more than the beneficiaries. Food stamps program pays farmers, food producers, truckers, super markets, and even fast food places. The money going to those businesses is far more than the few hundred dollars going to the food stamp recipients. Many of those businesses engage in illegal activities and pay the recipient cash for about 60% of the value of the stamps.
Medicare and Medicaid goes to drug companies, clinics and hospitals, doctors, dentists, chiropractors. Kids who get unneeded back adjustments or root canals are scams to make money for the provider. Medicare estimates it has $60 billion in fraud.
Pell Grants that go to for-profit private colleges provide terrible education and shut down in the middle of the semester. Almost all their income is from federal funds.
These are examples of programs designed to help the low income but primarily benefit the people receiving the money.
Pile of crap, Me reading your crap has a problem , here's the thing, I only read to the first bullshit lie and then quit reading. I usually can't get through your first sentence and have to turn you off.
Not if you actually bother to check any facts rather than give knee-jerk ideological responses.
Try something that is true and I will read it. Otherwise , I won't waste my time.
Pile of crap, Me reading your crap has a problem , here's the thing, I only read to the first bullshit lie and then quit reading. I usually can't get through your first sentence and have to turn you off.
This is in my first paragraph. Is this a lie?
"The bottom half pays virtually no income tax because the top 50% pay 96% of federal income taxes (over 100% if we include the earned income tax credit)."
Try something that is true and I will read it. Otherwise , I won't waste my time.
Present some "alternative facts" that show mine are incorrect. You never have any substantive arguments to present contrary to those you are challenging.
BidenPresident
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Pile of crap, Me reading your crap has a problem , here's the thing, I only read to the first bullshit lie and then quit reading. I usually can't get through your first sentence and have to turn you off.
Same here. As soon as I see right wing talking points I ignore the entire post.
BidenPresident
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This is in my first paragraph. Is this a lie?
"The bottom half pays virtually no income tax because the top 50% pay 96% of federal income taxes (over 100% if we include the earned income tax credit)."
Yes it is a lie. And you will never be able to substantiate it. And posting an opinion from a right wing blog is meaningless.
Yes it is a lie. And you will never be able to substantiate it. And posting an opinion from a right wing blog is meaningless.
Right-wing blog? Try the IRS, Treasury Department, and CBO. Only partisan sources will have misinformation.
Bullshit to every word that comes from the mouth of any right winger. maybe 15% don't pay any federal taxes. The tax proportion for income group is direct relationship to the amount they get as annual income. If they pay 40% of the taxes it's because they make almost 40% of the money. So bullshit again is all the haters have. The only thing that counts is what percentage of income is used to pay for all taxes. The rest is right wing bullshit.Right-wing blog? Try the IRS, Treasury Department, and CBO. Only partisan sources will have misinformation.
BidenPresident
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Right-wing blog? Try the IRS, Treasury Department, and CBO. Only partisan sources will have misinformation.
You know what? If you don't have to pay federal income taxes it means you are poor. Do you get off on that? Hating on people?
BidenPresident
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The only reason people like flash opens their mouths is to change socks.
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You know what? If you don't have to pay federal income taxes it means you are poor. Do you get off on that? Hating on people?
You are reading unfounded assumptions into my post. You response has nothing to do with the discussion. I did not suggest we should hate anybody or that the poor should pay more federal income taxes. That is what progressive taxes mean--those with more wealth pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes.
When you could not refute my facts you turned your discussion to a new topic implying I was being critical of the fact that the bottom 50% pay no federal income tax--none of which I even hinted at, but you have to make it partisan.
Learn to distinguish between facts and partisan bias.
BidenPresident
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You are reading unfounded assumptions into my post. You response has nothing to do with the discussion. I did not suggest we should hate anybody or that the poor should pay more federal income taxes. That is what progressive taxes mean--those with more wealth pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes.
When you could not refute my facts you turned your discussion to a new topic implying I was being critical of the fact that the bottom 50% pay no federal income tax--none of which I even hinted at, but you have to make it partisan.
Learn to distinguish between facts and partisan bias.
You're all bullshit. Your pretense is offensive.
BidenPresident
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Trump Supporter: Criticizes Trump then spends the rest of the time defending all his policies.