Where's The Women?

Rationalist said:
A fair point, and one that I have given some thought. But there will always be women's health clinics willing to offer these services to low-income women.
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not in states where the clinics have been banned...only women that can afford to go to a state where they can get an abortion will be able to if they live in one of the states that have banned the clinics.
 
Rationalist said:
A fair point, and one that I have given some thought. But there will always be women's health clinics willing to offer these services to low-income women.
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Really? not with the Ohio bill, because health clinics won't be able to meet the stringent provisions. And there are states that are down to just a few - sometimes even only one - clinic. How are poor women supposed to get to these clinics? they have to take time off work to go to them. And the anti-choicers are trying to close the ones that do exist down.

Nice to think "there always will be" but there won't, if these anti-women people have their way.
 
oh no they are not gonna let us kill babies after 20 weeks, or 4 months, oh the heartbreak, in cases like mine,or in some other extreme cases like rape, I would disagree with them if the child is perfectly healthy then no, no abortion
 
Rationalist said:
This I do not have a problem with, nor do I necessarily object to defunding Planned Parenthood. In my mind, being pro-choice means women should have access to all available information. As for government funding of abortion or organizations that provide abortion, I oppose it. I'm 100% pro-choice (for the first trimester, at least), but I don't think taxpayer dollars should fund an activity as controversial as abortion. Let the 'pubs have their way on that issue and progress will come easier. Just imagine how much more cleanly we could have passed the ACA had abortion funding never been in the equation. Hell, Dems probably could have bundled a public option with a complete defunding of PP and it may have had a shot.
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Public funding is a loser. Too many people who are pro-choice don't support it. I have said for well over a decade now, that if NOW, NARAL and other reproductive rights groups had invested the money they used to lobby congress, they could easily subsidize the needs of low income women. BUT if they did that you can be damn sure that the forced birthers would do everything in the world to make third party payment of abortions illegal.
 
cawacko said:
The only thing we hate in Ohio is Michigan.


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Yes, but Ohio swallows.
 
tekkychick said:
Really? not with the Ohio bill, because health clinics won't be able to meet the stringent provisions. And there are states that are down to just a few - sometimes even only one - clinic. How are poor women supposed to get to these clinics? they have to take time off work to go to them. And the anti-choicers are trying to close the ones that do exist down.

Nice to think "there always will be" but there won't, if these anti-women people have their way.
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war on women, what war on women

the repugs hate free women
 
Socrtease said:
Public funding is a loser. Too many people who are pro-choice don't support it. I have said for well over a decade now, that if NOW, NARAL and other reproductive rights groups had invested the money they used to lobby congress, they could easily subsidize the needs of low income women. BUT if they did that you can be damn sure that the forced birthers would do everything in the world to make third party payment of abortions illegal.
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There are funds set up to help poor women pay for abortions. But we're tired of always being second class citizens. So we work on both fronts.
 
tekkychick said:
There are funds set up to help poor women pay for abortions. But we're tired of always being second class citizens. So we work on both fronts.
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And how has the public funding for abortions front played out. Has it been successful? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
 
Socrtease said:
And how has the public funding for abortions front played out. Has it been successful? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
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yes, expecting men to take responsibility for birth control or conception

i guess that only women are responsible for birth control and conception

yep, true insanity
 
tekkychick said:
so we should just give up on the concept?

Politicians change. Times change.
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besides, are there not just a few to many people on this planet competing for the same resources?

not to mention that all a guy has to do is lie about his name and leave town and leave the woman pregnant...
 
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