Where the Tea Party went wrong...

Jarod

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"Rafael Cruz, father of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), told a tea party group in 2012 he thinks President Barack Obama should go "back to Kenya."

Cruz can be seen making the comments in a video posted by YouTube user Michael Openshaw in Sept. 2012 and reported by Mother Jones Thursday. In the clip, Cruz calls America a "Christian Nation" and urges the tea party group to vote only for Republicans in the upcoming 2012 election."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/rafael-cruz-birther_n_4181207.html


The first sign that the Tea Party would not be a lasting or real movement within the Republican Party was when they invited Sara Palin to be the Keynote Speaker at one of there first national conventions. She is known as a flame thrower, not a serious politician. She never gives in depth ideas or suggestions or even critiques. She shouts out one line jabs and barbs, not serious ideas or comments.

The fatal flaw was embracing social conservatism to go along with there more popular and mainstream ideas about reducing the size of government and fiscal restructuring to a more responsible foundation.

How could any serious American take them seriously when they advocate for smaller government on the financial side, and bigger government on the social side. Don't help the poor financially, but decide who they should be allowed to marry.

The country is Ripe for a fiscal conservative movement, don't get me wrong, I am not for what they want, but its a ground swell movement that the Tea Party could have ridden to national party status. They chose however they chose to bring along the ugly step child of authoritarian social restriction.
 
Jarod said:
How could any serious American take them seriously when they advocate for smaller government on the financial side, and bigger government on the social side. Don't help the poor financially, but decide who they should be allowed to marry.


They chose however they chose to bring along the ugly step child of authoritarian social restriction.
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This is the blatant hypocrisy that I see when they moan about 'big govt' too.
 
They made it impossible for anyone to take the cause very seriously. That and irrational Obama hatred based on emotion never allowing themselves to credit him for anything ever even when their philosophy would have otherwise allowed them to do so.
 
Jarod said:
They made it impossible for anyone to take the cause very seriously. That and irrational Obama hatred based on emotion never allowing themselves to credit him for anything ever even when their philosophy would have otherwise allowed them to do so.
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Any particular policy you have in mind that the tea party folk should have supported but didn't because it was Obama?
 
cawacko said:
Any particular policy you have in mind that the tea party folk should have supported but didn't because it was Obama?
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I don't think the Tea Party has official policy stances on many things, but its high profile members have continually demonized him fighting many issues tooth and nail. Many jumped on the birther scandal of the week bandwagon. They fought him on Libya and Syria when it would be more in a conservatives nature to support such actions, had a Republican been in office. For over a year they were unwilling to allow the continuing resolution issue to go to committee. If he supports an issue, they don't care what, they are against it. They have stringently fought only for repeal of the ACA rather than changes in the ACA.
 
From what I've seen of Jarod's posts, he is usually full of something, but in this case I think he has nailed it. Sarah Palin is a liability. A quitter. Otherwise, the Tea Party suffers from the same holier than thou moral position that the GOP's old men do. For starters, they need to get off the abortion thing. Leave personal moral decisions to those people who have to make them. What we need is a fiscal conservative political party, and we don't have one.
 
Jarod said:
They made it impossible for anyone to take the cause very seriously. That and irrational Obama hatred based on emotion never allowing themselves to credit him for anything ever even when their philosophy would have otherwise allowed them to do so.
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I wonder if Cruz himself believes Obama is a Kenyan? Although the issue doesn't make news much anymore, I believe there's a significant number of TP members and other conservatives who still consider him to be a Kenyan.
 
Jarod said:
I don't think the Tea Party has official policy stances on many things, but its high profile members have continually demonized him fighting many issues tooth and nail. Many jumped on the birther scandal of the week bandwagon. They fought him on Libya and Syria when it would be more in a conservatives nature to support such actions, had a Republican been in office. For over a year they were unwilling to allow the continuing resolution issue to go to committee. If he supports an issue, they don't care what, they are against it. They have stringently fought only for repeal of the ACA rather than changes in the ACA.
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Mitch McConnell, 2010: "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

It didn't work, but not because of trying. And repubs still stand as one against his issues even when it's in everybody's best interest to compromise.
 
Jarod said:
"Rafael Cruz, father of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), told a tea party group in 2012 he thinks President Barack Obama should go "back to Kenya."

Cruz can be seen making the comments in a video posted by YouTube user Michael Openshaw in Sept. 2012 and reported by Mother Jones Thursday. In the clip, Cruz calls America a "Christian Nation" and urges the tea party group to vote only for Republicans in the upcoming 2012 election."
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Unfortunately, we're only left to speculate what kinds of comments were made by Obama's father; the bigamist, bastard-generating, anti-European, anti-white, communist.
 
Taft2016 said:
Unfortunately, we're only left to speculate what kinds of comments were made by Obama's father; the bigamist, bastard-generating, anti-European, anti-white, communist.
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how christiany of you to wish his father was still alive.
 
christiefan915 said:
Mitch McConnell, 2010: "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

It didn't work, but not because of trying. And repubs still stand as one against his issues even when it's in everybody's best interest to compromise.
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It sure would have been nice if it was the American people being helped instead of harming who the people chose to lead them huh?


party over country at every turn for this current republican party
 
Taft2016 said:
Unfortunately, we're only left to speculate what kinds of comments were made by Obama's father; the bigamist, bastard-generating, anti-European, anti-white, communist.
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You are one mean s.o.b., Offissa Pupp.

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christiefan915 said:
Mitch McConnell, 2010: "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

It didn't work, but not because of trying. And repubs still stand as one against his issues even when it's in everybody's best interest to compromise.
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Mitch FAILED at his self described "single most important" task!
 
The Health Care bill is certainty something the R's would have supported had it been promoted by a Republican... Like they did when Mitt promoted the same basic bill.
 
President Obama's father did not have much to do with raising him or building him into the man he is today!
 
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