Where did Omar Mateen stand?

christiefan915 said:
Yes of course that's it. Obama should criticize all Muslims including the American ones because of what ISIS is doing. All the Muslims living, working, raising families and wanting to live in peace.

The president of the US isn't supposed to single out a religious or ethnic group because on an act of terror. I bet you didn't expect Obama to call Don Blankenship an inbred redneck murderer because he let his employees die in the coal mines.
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Strange analogy lol.

Maybe you can explain how saying 'radical Islam' implicates every Muslim on the planet.
 
cawacko said:
Many people have changed their beliefs. But look at people like Jarod and Christie try and spin their way out of this guy being a registered Dem. (And for the record I don't care what the guys political registration is or was. Sick people come from all walks of life and all politcal leanings.). It's similar to me how leonthecat claims liberals can't be racist.

I'm sorry but last I checked liberals are humans too and have faults and aren't above disliking people.
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It's fine to call out libs, some of whom are assholes, and many of whom are sexist pricks. The Bernie campaign has proved that, and I can write reams about the "bernie bros" and their behavior on the internet. I've been called the same names by them (and so have many women!) that a piece of pigshit like ILA uses.

I just don't like when I see blacks targeted with this stereotype about hating gays. People have to realize the most liberal people active in our politics today are POC, and specifically black people. Just ask Bernie, just ask Hillary. There's a reason Bernie lost the primary and just lost DC by like 70 points. And they aren't in for "Free college! But when the bill comes due, slash Darla's Social Security to pay for it, why should I pay?" The black people I know are very pro-gay rights. Of course you can find exceptions, just like you can find liberals who talk stupid bigoted shit on just about any subject.
 
Darla said:
It's fine to call out libs, some of whom are assholes, and many of whom are sexist pricks. The Bernie campaign has proved that, and I can write reams about the "bernie bros" and their behavior on the internet. I've been called the same names by them (and so have many women!) that a piece of pigshit like ILA uses.

I just don't like when I see blacks targeted with this stereotype about hating gays. People have to realize the most liberal people active in our politics today are POC, and specifically black people. Just ask Bernie, just ask Hillary. There's a reason Bernie lost the primary and just lost DC by like 70 points. And they aren't in for "Free college! But when the bill comes due, slash Darla's Social Security to pay for it, why should I pay?" The black people I know are very pro-gay rights. Of course you can find exceptions, just like you can find liberals who talk stupid bigoted shit on just about any subject.
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As is the case with other demographic groups, African Americans have become more supportive of same-sex marriage over the last decade. However, overall views are mixed: 51% of blacks oppose gays and lesbians marrying legally, while 41% are in favor. Majorities of whites (59%) and Hispanics (56%) now favor same-sex marriage.

http://www.people-press.org/2015/06...-record-high-but-key-segments-remain-opposed/
 
Darla said:
It's fine to call out libs, some of whom are assholes, and many of whom are sexist pricks. The Bernie campaign has proved that, and I can write reams about the "bernie bros" and their behavior on the internet. I've been called the same names by them (and so have many women!) that a piece of pigshit like ILA uses.

I just don't like when I see blacks targeted with this stereotype about hating gays. People have to realize the most liberal people active in our politics today are POC, and specifically black people. Just ask Bernie, just ask Hillary. There's a reason Bernie lost the primary and just lost DC by like 70 points. And they aren't in for "Free college! But when the bill comes due, slash Darla's Social Security to pay for it, why should I pay?" The black people I know are very pro-gay rights. Of course you can find exceptions, just like you can find liberals who talk stupid bigoted shit on just about any subject.
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To be clear by no means do all in the black community dislike or hate gays. But as the Prop 8 vote in California showed blacks as a group voted the highest for it. I'm not trying to put down the black community here but responding to the idea that liberals are so enlightened and accepting of gays while so many conservatives supposedly hate them.
 
christiefan915 said:
You didn't qualify your comment with "politically relevant." Did you look at the Twitter thread that was posted yesterday and all the hateful comments about Muslims, gays etc.?
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Politically relevant means people who should be taken seriously. Like politicians running for office or sitting presidents. The Internet is largely a swamp. Haters abound from every angle.
 
cawacko said:
To be clear by no means do all in the black community dislike or hate gays. But as the Prop 8 vote in California showed blacks as a group voted the highest for it. I'm not trying to put down the black community here but responding to the idea that liberals are so enlightened and accepting of gays while so many conservatives supposedly hate them.
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I'm sure I read that was based on some faulty exit polling, but I don't want to go back in time and search that out.

As far as liberals go, the pitchfork left are the worst always putting on airs that they are so pure. That's the "brocialist" left, or really the white progressive left. I really don't hang with that group. They are full of shit. And there is tons of racism and sexism among them. They are more open with their sexism, you couldn't tell some of them apart from the nastiest righties. They are more subtle with their racism. Patronizing. The usual. I make no claims that liberals can't be racist or sexist, or stupid for that matter. You will never see me make that claim or any claim like it. Why do you think so many on this board on both sides can't stand me. I know they don't like me. I don't care. And I hold back a lot. If I let loose on here about this stupidity like I do elsewhere the only person still talking to me would be Rune. Well, maybe you. :)
 
cawacko said:
To be clear by no means do all in the black community dislike or hate gays. But as the Prop 8 vote in California showed blacks as a group voted the highest for it. I'm not trying to put down the black community here but responding to the idea that liberals are so enlightened and accepting of gays while so many conservatives supposedly hate them.
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You are talking about blacks in Cali too.
 
christiefan915 said:
Maybe you can explain how anything will change if Obama/Hillary/liberals use the words "radical Islam."
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Oh !oh! call on me!

Things are only gonna change when Islam decides it is not going to tolerate/support salafi jihad.
One thing the west can do is tell Islam in general to clean up it's act; and that the radicalism of the jihadist are PART of Islam-
but we are not at war with MS Islam..
Hoping that the murderous thugs of ISIS are not emulated, like they are fought by Sunnis in Iraq/Syria

that's one benefit of calling things what they are ( plus not having to do pretzel language every time one speaks)
 
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