Where Did All the Anti-War Protestors Go?

Onceler said:
2007...you mean when we were still in Iraq w/ no real timeline for exiting? Thanks for making my point.

You only see hypocrisy because of your devotion to Bush.
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Translation:

*MUST DEFEND OBAMA*
*MUST DEFEND OBAMA*
*MUST IGNORE HYPOCRISY AND DEFEND DEMOCRATS*
*MUST DEFEND OBAMA*

/Translation

Inane, the only person talking about Bush in our conversation is you. I'm talking about protesters. There is still no "timeline" for Iraq, the soldiers are still there, people are still being killed, more soldiers are in Afghanistan, more remote controlled planes "indiscriminately" kill "brown people" yet people are willing to stay silent now. But Onceler insists that there are "just as many" protesters on the corner of his block as there ever have been.

Since anecdotes are now the evidence that Onceler supports I can tell you that there are none on my drive home, yet I used to see them up on the bridge over the highway on a rather consistent basis with signs talking about those "brown people" getting bombed and how that policy was "creating more terrorism"... Good thing we increased those.
 
Damocles said:
Translation:

*MUST DEFEND OBAMA*
*MUST DEFEND OBAMA*
*MUST IGNORE HYPOCRISY AND DEFEND DEMOCRATS*
*MUST DEFEND OBAMA*

/Translation

Inane, the only person talking about Bush in our conversation is you. I'm talking about protesters. There is still no "timeline" for Iraq, the soldiers are still there, people are still being killed, more soldiers are in Afghanistan, more remote controlled planes "indiscriminately" kill "brown people" yet people are willing to stay silent now. But Onceler insists that there are "just as many" protesters on the corner of his block as there ever have been.

Since anecdotes are now the evidence that Onceler supports I can tell you that there are none on my drive home, yet I used to see them up on the bridge over the highway on a rather consistent basis with signs talking about those "brown people" getting bombed and how that policy was "creating more terrorism"... Good thing we increased those.
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Your posts have gotten so predictable since the ODS kicked in; nothing but hyperbole....
 
Onceler said:
Your posts have gotten so predictable since the ODS kicked in; nothing but hyperbole....
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I know he's right, we can all tell the difference between thousands of protesters on the TV and almost none ever reported about. Yet I don't want to just say, "Yeah you are right." because that would mean that there are some huge hypocrites on my side of the political aisle. So I'll just try to attack Damocles personally and hope nobody notices my argument is bereft of facts and only supported by what I want to believe and silly anecdotes that I make up.
 
Onceler said:
Your posts have gotten so predictable since the ODS kicked in; nothing but hyperbole....
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Is that your new synonym for "the truth".......hyperbole ?????
Its not normally used that way.......the truth is just the truth.....though hyperbole may be used to emphasize the truth....

According to the liberal norms of the Bush years.....Obama is now responsible for more deaths in Afghanistan in 3 years than Bush was in 7 years...
and that ain't hyperbole either...its the truth....
 
Damocles said:
Translation:

I know he's right, we can all tell the difference between thousands of protesters on the TV and almost none ever reported about. Yet I don't want to just say, "Yeah you are right." because that would mean that there are some huge hypocrites on my side of the political aisle. So I'll just try to attack Damocles personally and hope nobody notices my argument is bereft of facts and only supported by what I want to believe and silly anecdotes that I make up.
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Your translations are horrific. I didn't even mention Obama in the post prior to the previous one, and you came back w/ your lame "must defend Obama," even though I've been against Libya from day 1 and won't be voting Obama as a result.

As so often happens, the righties on this board tend to project their Bush apologism onto me. It's just not the case; I can see this much more objectively than you. The left didn't go bananas about Afghanistan; they went bananas about Iraq. And sorry, but despite your characterization, most see that conflict as being pretty much over by now.

I'm trying to work things into the narrative you so desperately seem to need, but they just don't fit. Sorry 'bout that....
 
Onceler said:
Your translations are horrific. I didn't even mention Obama in the post prior to the previous one, and you came back w/ your lame "must defend Obama," even though I've been against Libya from day 1 and won't be voting Obama as a result.

As so often happens, the righties on this board tend to project their Bush apologism onto me. It's just not the case; I can see this much more objectively than you. The left didn't go bananas about Afghanistan; they went bananas about Iraq. And sorry, but despite your characterization, most see that conflict as being pretty much over by now.

I'm trying to work things into the narrative you so desperately seem to need, but they just don't fit. Sorry 'bout that....
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You messed up, I'm sure you meant accurate rather than "horrific".

Again, the only person in our conversation focusing on Bush is you, you attempt to distract from the very real dearth of protesters that you say are all on your corner as "thick as ever"... Again, thank you for your anecdotes and personal attacks, but reality isn't fitting in with your worldview at the moment. They went "bananas" over "indiscriminate bombing" and "extending the war" into Pakistan, suggesting that every time a remote control plane bombed somewhere that "innocents" were killed and that republicans didn't care because they were "brown"...

Those people appear to be gone, yet ever more of those remote controlled planes are now used.

Desh was one of them, I don't hear her talk about how the WH doesn't care about "brown people" anymore.

I know you really want to believe that they couldn't possibly be hypocrites and that they stopped protesting because the war is over and peace has broken out around the world. I mean the President got a Peace Prize didn't he? But however you twist it, nothing has really changed on those fronts other than more "innocents" are killed by remote control than ever before.
 
Onceler said:
Oh - Desh is now your evidence.

Got it....thanks.
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Just using something you can actually check on. See, she made many of those posts here. However, the thick crowd of protesters hatin' on war on your corner are enough evidence for you that all is as it should be and there couldn't possibly be a hypocrite on the left. We get it, you'll defend against any truth about your party that might show some members to be hypocrites. We understand.
 
Damocles said:
Just using something you can actually check on. See, she made many of those posts here. However, the thick crowd of protesters hatin' on war on your corner are enough evidence for you that all is as it should be and there couldn't possibly be a hypocrite on the left. We get it, you'll defend against any truth about your party that might show some members to be hypocrites. We understand.
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Onecell don't have to check on Desh for anything, he only needs to honestly recall his own posts .....
The Deshlike lefties were hummin' like a beehive, ranting about Bush, the war, the deaths, the drones, the trillion Iraqi civilians killed by the US.....or was it only a billion....?
The pinheads were raving like it was the second Holocaust....
but Onecell has very selective memory about some events....every death by a Muslim fanatic blowing himself up was blamed on Bush and the US...
 
Hey, Damo - look! Bravo is right in lockstep w/ you.

If that's not an endorsement of how objective you're being, I really don't know what is...
 
Oh, and bravo? That's the point I was making all along - that the outcry over Iraq was by FAR the loudest & most intense.

Thanks for helping me make it. Read much?
 
Onceler said:
Hey, Damo - look! Bravo is right in lockstep w/ you.

If that's not an endorsement of how objective you're being, I really don't know what is...
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When all else fails attempt to attack the messenger, you might even get people to believe you.
 
Damocles said:
When all else fails attempt to attack the messenger, you might even get people to believe you.
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First, nothing has failed, at least on my part. Second, I guess it has for you, since "attacking the messenger" is certainly something you have engaged in.
 
Onceler said:
First, nothing has failed, at least on my part. Second, I guess it has for you, since "attacking the messenger" is certainly something you have engaged in.
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Where? I just underlined what you were doing with the "see who is on your side?" argument, which truly failed as his argument really lent nothing to mine.

I believe that many of the protesters who used to carry the "republicans don't care about brown people" signs stopped protesting because it wasn't a republican doing the exact thing they were protesting. You believe that those people really only cared about Iraq and never protested anything else even though their signs spoke differently.

Much of what they protested continues, yet they are strangely absent from both the news and the bridges.. It tells me that many of them are hypocrites who support the exact same thing (PATRIOT ACT, Wireless wiretapping, bombing by remote control, extraordinary rendition, GITMO) that they protested and said "caused" terrorism previous to their party gaining power.

I'm good with the facts on my side, so far all you got is "bravo"...
 
Damocles said:
Translation:

*MUST DEFEND OBAMA*
*MUST DEFEND OBAMA*
*MUST IGNORE HYPOCRISY AND DEFEND DEMOCRATS*
*MUST DEFEND OBAMA*

/Translation

Inane, the only person talking about Bush in our conversation is you. I'm talking about protesters. There is still no "timeline" for Iraq, the soldiers are still there, people are still being killed, more soldiers are in Afghanistan, more remote controlled planes "indiscriminately" kill "brown people" yet people are willing to stay silent now. But Onceler insists that there are "just as many" protesters on the corner of his block as there ever have been.

Since anecdotes are now the evidence that Onceler supports I can tell you that there are none on my drive home, yet I used to see them up on the bridge over the highway on a rather consistent basis with signs talking about those "brown people" getting bombed and how that policy was "creating more terrorism"... Good thing we increased those.
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Damocles said:
Translation:

I know he's right, we can all tell the difference between thousands of protesters on the TV and almost none ever reported about. Yet I don't want to just say, "Yeah you are right." because that would mean that there are some huge hypocrites on my side of the political aisle. So I'll just try to attack Damocles personally and hope nobody notices my argument is bereft of facts and only supported by what I want to believe and silly anecdotes that I make up.
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:good4u:
 
Damocles said:
Where? I just underlined what you were doing with the "see who is on your side?" argument, which truly failed as his argument really lent nothing to mine.

I believe that many of the protesters who used to carry the "republicans don't care about brown people" signs stopped protesting because it wasn't a republican doing the exact thing they were protesting. You believe that those people really only cared about Iraq and never protested anything else even though their signs spoke differently.

Much of what they protested continues, yet they are strangely absent from both the news and the bridges.. It tells me that many of them are hypocrites who support the exact same thing (PATRIOT ACT, Wireless wiretapping, bombing by remote control, extraordinary rendition, GITMO) that they protested and said "caused" terrorism previous to their party gaining power.

I'm good with the facts on my side, so far all you got is "bravo"...
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Much of what they protested continues? Got news for you, Damo - and I'm surprised I have to repeat this yet again - the big protests, and by far the biggest outcry, was about Iraq.

That's why my 1st response asked about Afghanistan. I defy any of you Bushies to try to say with a straight face that "the left" protested Afghanistan with even a fraction of the intensity as they did Iraq.

And where is your 'evidence'? You ridicule my anecdotal observations, but all I hear is "no one protests now." You might want to look that up first...
 
Onceler said:
Much of what they protested continues? Got news for you, Damo - and I'm surprised I have to repeat this yet again - the big protests, and by far the biggest outcry, was about Iraq.

That's why my 1st response asked about Afghanistan. I defy any of you Bushies to try to say with a straight face that "the left" protested Afghanistan with even a fraction of the intensity as they did Iraq.

And where is your 'evidence'? You ridicule my anecdotal observations, but all I hear is "no one protests now." You might want to look that up first...
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I can understand your ignorance, I've dealt with it more times than I care to admit....
The simple fact is, it was an "anti-WAR" movement, not only an "anti-Iraq war" movement.....

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Anti-war+Pictures&qpvt=Anti-war+Pictures&FORM=IGRE#x0y0

And the truth is plain and obvious, since Bush and Republicans are no longer in charge in Washington, the protesters are gone for the most part....just about non-existent now...
And the reason is just as obvious, since the Democrats are making policy and a Democrat is in the WH, they have lost interest in whining and bitching.....and when even a minor group does protest, the media ignores it as expected.....

But they will be back when Obama goes back to the Chicago projects in 2013..and Republicans return to power,
and media coverage will increase to help drive its rebirth....
 
Onceler said:
Much of what they protested continues? Got news for you, Damo - and I'm surprised I have to repeat this yet again - the big protests, and by far the biggest outcry, was about Iraq.

That's why my 1st response asked about Afghanistan. I defy any of you Bushies to try to say with a straight face that "the left" protested Afghanistan with even a fraction of the intensity as they did Iraq.

And where is your 'evidence'? You ridicule my anecdotal observations, but all I hear is "no one protests now." You might want to look that up first...
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I have "news" for you, we're not talking about the "biggest" we're talking about almost any at all. The crudest of the signs were for the stuff I listed, now they are absent. The silence is deafening.

Again all you have is pretense, you "need" (for some reason) to believe that your "side" doesn't have hypocrites. You need it so bad you are willing to ignore reality for some fantasy world where your anecdotes are accepted as "evidence" that those are "just as strong", and when proven ridiculous change the whole thing. At least you've lost your laser focus on Bush, took you long enough.

I know you weren't one of the protesters, it isn't like I'm calling you a hypocrite. I'm just wondering why you are unwilling to simply say, "Yeah, there's a huge lot of hypocrites on the left."

And you keep forgetting that soldiers are still in Iraq, people are still bombed, and really, it hasn't ended. Without us, the entire house of cards falls. I remember when I was told by some of those "protesters" how that would just create more terrorists. How's that working for you?

And nowadays we have the (what did I hear it called the other day... oh yes) "Reich Wing" News agencies who would willingly cover those protests... Yet they are silent. They aren't there, because the hypocrites suddenly don't care about those "innocent" brown people getting killed by random acts of remote controlled bombing... Those "new terrorists" we are creating suddenly don't matter. Extraordinary rendition... No problem. The long-legged mack-daddy is in office and he'll make sure we cover their "rights"...

Nobody says you are one of those hypocrites, but you certainly are a volunteer advocate for them.
 
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