WHERE ARE THE "CHILDREN OF THE REVOLUTION" ?

Mr.Badguy said:
And when will you be reading Marx, etc?
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I've read "The Social Contract" -(1762) Jean-Jacques Rousseau, from which Marx plagerised his entire book; "The Communist Manifesto" (1848), Marx, Engels, etal; and "Mein Kampf"-1924- Hitler, in which he plagerised most of Marx's book.

Rousseau was the father of ALL forms of "Socialism/Collectivism", and one needed only read book 2, Chapter 7-"The Law maker", to see how fatally flawed it was/is, and will forever be; fated to become
totalitarion dictatorships, without fail
 
Dachshund said:
Why don't you enlighten us Martin? Please tell us what the fundamental principles of Marxism are? The way I see it, they are basically the same today (in movements like CRT - which is squarely based on Marxist theory) as they were back in 1844, when Marx and Engels published "The Communist Manifesto" in London.


Marxism is like automobiles, Martin. You'll see all sorts of different styles and models of automobiles driving around in America, but they have ONE thing in common that makes them work, and that's an internal combustion engine (ignore EVs for the time being as they are still very new and not the norm).

So, I want you to tell me the primary features of Marxism's "internal combustion engine". Got it? (It's very easy to do , actually).


NB: I am talking at a very fundamental level. So if I said to you what are the fundamental feature of an internal combustion engine, and you said:" It has pistons and cylinders and spark - plugs and burns gas." I 'd accept that as a satisfactory answer, because I can tell - just from - that, you basically understand how an internal combustion car engine works.


So let's see what you got on "Marxism", dude !




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The "fundamental principle" of Marxism is socialism, not Stalinism which became the fundamental basis of Communism. Marx wasn't an enemy of civil liberties. He advocated them but did not incorporate them into his theory of economics just as he did not incorporate any governmental theories at all. Marxism is only about economics. Marx was looking for a remedy to the often brutal oppression that went hand in hand with the sort of capitalism emerging in the Industrial Revolution and which itself was turning into an enemy of civil liberties. Marx no doubt would have seen Stalin as a corrupter of socialism, as Lenin did. Were it not for Lenin falling ill and dying Stalin, who Lenin disliked and wanted kicked out of the party, might have become merely a historical asterisk. Instead he crafted Marxism, or socialism, into a dictatorship.

There is plenty of online material on this if you want to take the time to find it and READ it.
 
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martin said:
The "fundamental principle" of Marxism is socialism, not Stalinism which became the fundamental basis of Communism. Marx wasn't an enemy of civil liberties. He advocated them but did not incorporate them into his theory of economics just as he did not incorporate any governmental theories at all. Marxism is only about economics. Marx was looking for a remedy to the often brutal oppression that went hand in hand with the sort of capitalism emerging in the Industrial Revolution and which itself was turning into an enemy of civil liberties. Marx no doubt would have seen Stalin as a corrupter of socialism, as Lenin did. Were it not for Lenin falling ill and dying Stalin, who Lenin disliked and wanted kicked out of the party, might have become merely a historical asterisk. Instead he crafted Marxism, or socialism, into a dictatorship.

There is plenty of online material on this if you want to take the time to find it and READ it.
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Nope. You don't giddit Marty...


Let me explain...


The beating heart of Marxism - whether it is the contents of Marx and Engels, 1844, "Communist Manifesto" (i.e. economic/class - based Marxism), or the Critical Race Theory (CRT) movement (i.e. racist Marxism) that is happening right now, in 2923, in America, is the "THEORY OF CONFLICT."




This is how the Theory of Conflict works....



Marxism of any variety, is based on the assumption that a CONFLICT between OPPRESSORS GROUPS and OPPRESSED GROUPS exists in every aspect of society. This CONFLICT THEORY claims to explain the POWER and CLASS struggles that are seen among different: SEXES (male Vs female - or should I say: People with Penises Vs People with Vulvas ?:);HUMAN RACES (e.g. African-American Vs White (European) Americans);POLITICAL SUPPORTERS (e.g. Republicans Vs Democrats); RELIGIOUS FOLLOWERS (e.g. American Evangelical Christians Vs Muslims or Satanists); SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS (e.g. Straight/heterosexual Vs LGBTQIA+), PROFESSIONALS, and so on.



CONFLICT THEORY in MARXISM also incorporates a heavy ethical loading, such that the OPPRESSOR GROUP/S (like successful, straight, White, capitalist males in the US today) are branded as immoral ass-holes - who are racists (White Supremacists) and "domestic terrorists" according to your glorious "leader", the POTUS - "Blow-Hole" Joe Biden :clap: On the other hand, the minority group of, for example, poor, ignorant, stupid, unemployed, welfare-dependent, crime-prone, antisocial, BLM-rioting, BLACKS (African-Americans) are an OPPRESSED GROUP- or a VICTIM GROUP. As an OPPRESSED GROUP, Marxist Conflict Theory automatically claims they are more moral and virtuous than the Oppressor group (i.e. the Whitey Yank) who is to blame for the historical slavery and systemic/institutional racism that discriminated against, traumatised and exploited the OPPRESSED group of BLACKS.



So, Marxism advocates for the OPPRESSED GROUP/S in AMERICAN SOCIETY to rise up against the OPPRESSOR GROUP/S (who are generally White- European Americans, culturally Western, Christian or embracers of Judeo-Christian morality; pro-life; supportive of free-market capitalism, pro-nuclear family, etc) in order to bring about equality/Social Justice in society.



And the big bonus is that this is way we will all eventually progress to the "Paradise on Earth" that is the Marxist COMMUNIST UTOPIA :palm:. But Karx Marx couldn't really tell us much about what his utopia was like (neither could other big time Marxists like:Pol Pot, Lenin; Chairman Mao or Leon Trotsky ???) ; he (Marx) muttered a few words about being able to relax in communist utopia by doing a bit of trout fishing by the river during the days, and snuggling into his favourite soft and coxy armchair opposite a nicely crackling fire in the hearth during the evenings - to read some history or philosophy. But that's about all that "Super - K" had to share with us about day-to-day life in commie utopia (the f**king clown)



Hope this was of some interest to you, Martin ?



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Dachshund said:
Nope. You don't giddit Marty...


Let me explain...


The beating heart of Marxism - whether it is the contents of Marx and Engels, 1844, "Communist Manifesto" (i.e. economic/class - based Marxism), or the Critical Race Theory (CRT) movement (i.e. racist Marxism) that is happening right now, in 2923, in America, is the "THEORY OF CONFLICT."




This is how the Theory of Conflict works....



Marxism of any variety, is based on the assumption that a CONFLICT between OPPRESSORS GROUPS and OPPRESSED GROUPS exists in every aspect of society. This CONFLICT THEORY claims to explain the POWER and CLASS struggles that are seen among different: SEXES (male Vs female - or should I say: People with Penises Vs People with Vulvas ?:);HUMAN RACES (e.g. African-American Vs White (European) Americans);POLITICAL SUPPORTERS (e.g. Republicans Vs Democrats); RELIGIOUS FOLLOWERS (e.g. American Evangelical Christians Vs Muslims or Satanists); SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS (e.g. Straight/heterosexual Vs LGBTQIA+), PROFESSIONALS, and so on.



CONFLICT THEORY in MARXISM also incorporates a heavy ethical loading, such that the OPPRESSOR GROUP/S (like successful, straight, White, capitalist males in the US today) are branded as immoral ass-holes - who are racists (White Supremacists) and "domestic terrorists" according to your glorious "leader", the POTUS - "Blow-Hole" Joe Biden :clap: On the other hand, the minority group of, for example, poor, ignorant, stupid, unemployed, welfare-dependent, crime-prone, antisocial, BLM-rioting, BLACKS (African-Americans) are an OPPRESSED GROUP- or a VICTIM GROUP. As an OPPRESSED GROUP, Marxist Conflict Theory automatically claims they are more moral and virtuous than the Oppressor group (i.e. the Whitey Yank) who is to blame for the historical slavery and systemic/institutional racism that discriminated against, traumatised and exploited the OPPRESSED group of BLACKS.



So, Marxism advocates for the OPPRESSED GROUP/S in AMERICAN SOCIETY to rise up against the OPPRESSOR GROUP/S (who are generally White- European Americans, culturally Western, Christian or embracers of Judeo-Christian morality; pro-life; supportive of free-market capitalism, pro-nuclear family, etc) in order to bring about equality/Social Justice in society.



And the big bonus is that this is way we will all eventually progress to the "Paradise on Earth" that is the Marxist COMMUNIST UTOPIA :palm:. But Karx Marx couldn't really tell us much about what his utopia was like (neither could other big time Marxists like:Pol Pot, Lenin; Chairman Mao or Leon Trotsky ???) ; he (Marx) muttered a few words about being able to relax in communist utopia by doing a bit of trout fishing by the river during the days, and snuggling into his favourite soft and coxy armchair opposite a nicely crackling fire in the hearth during the evenings - to read some history or philosophy. But that's about all that "Super - K" had to share with us about day-to-day life in commie utopia (the f**king clown)



Hope this was of some interest to you, Martin ?



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Thank you. Nothing I said is inconsistent with the idea that conflict between economic groups ("OPPRESSORS GROUPS and OPPRESSED GROUPS") was inevitable in a 19th century capitalist society. Rather, it is a basis for Marxism. Might help if you kept in mind that Marx was seeing things in the early years of the most brutal period of the Industrial Revolution. Then there were no mandated working conditions, no unions, no child labor laws, no unemployment compensation or welfare, no Social Security, no federal health insurance, no customary eight hour, five day work week and paid vacations, and so on. Were Marx alive today he would have a different perspective.

The only people who still routinely bring up Marx are Right wingers who need an easy target, which he is if you apply his writings to 21st Century economics.
 
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Mr.Badguy said:
Like what the Bible? Lol

If you have suggestions I'll take them to heart, but as far as I have read, most conservative writing is either pure fiction (Rand), rose-tinted biographies of prominent conservative figures (O'Reillys "Killing of" series) or some kind of airing of grievances against Obama, minorities, gays etc (had to keep a vomit bucket nearby for one of Palin's books). There's very little in terms of actual economic ideas or theories. The closest you get to a conservative book outlining actual IDEAS is Mein Kamf (haven't read it, I'll admit, but I know the gist). Lol
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"The Wealth of Nations" -Adam Smith (1776).; "Atlas Shrugged"- Ayn Rand (1957) "Animal Farm" - George Orwell (1945).
 
Dachshund said:
Thomas Jefferson wrote in the "Declaration of Independence" that the American people had a Natural (moral) Right to armed rebellion against their government if that government became tyrannical and failed to protect and defend the God-given, unalienable, immutable, eternal Natural (moral) Rights of the people to: Life; Liberty; the pursuit of happiness (and I will add the possession of private property, because Jefferson transcribed much of the "Declaration" from John Locke's: "Two Treatises on Government" (1689) and he stated that the Natural (moral) Right of man were:Life ; Liberty and "Estate" (which meant private Property).



Jefferson also mentioned that the Right to armed rebellion/revolution was really not just a Right the people possessed but a DUTY - a moral obligation.




So, for 8 long years from 1775, the colonists fought a Revolutionary War against the the tyrannies of the British Crown in the 13 colonies.Against the odds, the rebels defeated the British military and won their independence.



When the US Constitution was drawn up a "Bill of Rights" was soon added to it in the form of 10 Amendments.




My point is this...




You (Americans) now have a fully- blown communist government (I would call its political ideology "Critical Marxism," other people call it "neo-Marxist/Postmodernism", or simply modern-day "American Marxism" - because it was born and bred in the USA between the late 1960s and the current day (Critical Race Theory, and concepts like "racial equity and systemic (White) racism or "Institutional racism, transgender ideology and "Drag Queen Story Hour" in schools are all direct manifestations of this current "BIDEN communist Junta's ruling doctrine of "American Marxism". So was the insane open Souther Border policy (which has to date resulted in an estimated 7 million illegal immigrants entering the United States (SEVEN MILLION !). A final example was the appointment of the radical, Black, female jurist, Kitanji Brown Jackson - who could not provide a definition of the term, "woman" (!!) to a member of the Senate Confirmation Committee when asked - but was, of course appointed a Supreme Court Justice regardless. (This is a perfect example American Marxism in action, because, like the open Southern Border policy - it demonstrates just how extreme and radical (and destructive) the left in America have now become).





So the Biden Junta[/B] (which does not include , Joe Biden -(Biden is merely the Junta's pathetic, mentally - incapacitated and profoundly corrupt puppet) - are communists, Critical Marxists like:Susan Rice;Jake Sullivan; Antony Blinkin, the rectly retired Ron Klain and Avril Haines among others, including the "Big Daddy of them all, Barack Obama.. The people- the senior elites in the Democrat establishment work the with CEOs and Board members of big corporate America. The relationship between the two groups is a kind of symbiotic coalition. The major corporatists pay the Biden Junta to implement policy that will ultimately destroy the white American middle class, because this will be good for business/profit margins. So both groups benefit_ the huge financial backing of corporate America helps the Democrats to consolidate their grip on political power, while America's corporate bosses benefit from Democrat policies that will eventually increase their profit - margins.





If you are a reasonable, native, White, Western American who is a patriot, surely you must be aware of the extraordinary damge the Biden Junta has managed to inlict on America (in terms of both domestic and foreign disasters/crises since Biden was inaugurated as President on 20th Jan, 2021 (a date I refer to as "BLACK Wednesday). And surely you realize that the Biden Junta are a communist government ? (Which explains their endless series of policy fuck-ups - like printing trillions of dollars to fund nebulous Green New Deal "social programs", etc; that (SURPRISE,SURPRISE !!) triggered the worst inflation in 40 years; the political weaponisation of the DOJ; the hare-brained nixing of America's energy independence, the Southern Border crises; the demonisation of White Americans as "White Supremacists" and "domestic terrorists; the intimidation/terrorisation of pro-life activists, and the litany of oppressive, anti-American insanity goes on and one.




Had TRUMP been President - there would be no war currently raging in the UKRAINE. If TRUMP had been elected President, there would be no ongoing appeasement of communist China. Because TRUMP always knew exactly how to handle dangerous thugs like Putin and President Xi When you present a weak face to these animals - which is what Biden has done - they will "tear you to shreds" like the rogue sharks they are. I am fearful of what President Xi will do next - the world feels increasingly unstable to me - and this is yet another consequence of Biden being placed in power on 20th Jan 2021.




The Founders would have taken a very dim view if the communist Junta" in the White House today.[/I] Jefferson would surely have condemned it as a tyranny (which is what it absolutely is) and he would have said, along with George Washington and Ben Franklin and Alexander Hamiltion:"This government has failed to protect the Natural (moral) Rights of the people as proclaimed in the "Declaration" as well as most of the Constitutional Amendments set down in the "Bill of Rights. Therefore, the American people have the Right - indeed, the MORAL DUTY, to "cast off" this oppressive, tyrannical Junta by armed revolution. This is why we gave the people THE SECONF AMENDMENT !





I agree, There are at the very least, 75 million men and women (armed and ready) to march on Washington and demand this rogue, immoral, communist, Biden government stand down immediately. The US Army would not fire on the rebels because would be brother and sister American patriots (in addition the servicemen/women in the US Army have no respect for their current Military Brass (like General Milley and Co) who have forced programs of Woke indoctrination on the troops which are powerfully demoralising and universally despised).




The Biden Junta must be ousted as a matter of urgency before it, has the opportunity to wreak more chaos, destruction and oppression on the people of America !




The time has come for decent, patriotic Americans to stand up and oust this degenerate, communist Biden regime - to defend themselves, their families, their communities, their American (Western) culture and their country !



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Wait a minute, we now “have a fully- blown communist government?”

Last I knew, any communist government didn’t private property nor corporations

And you spent all that time copying and pasting that sophomoric narrative
 
Hawkeye10 said:
"Postmodern right" gets me less than 3000 Google hits and I have never heard of it so no, this is not true unless you can document it...and get over it.
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lol.....I AM it.....idiot.....

"postmodern conservatives" got me over 4.7M hits on google.......I guess I'm a better searcher than you are........
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Over the last 50-70 years conservatives never entered the battle, and now it is all over....The WOKE religion now controls all of the institutions of power, to include what were once the Christian churchs.

Strap in, the future is brutal for as far as the eyes can see.
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You are so full of shit as far as the eye can see, FawkEwe10.
You're a moron if you think anybody cares about your Chicken Little Scare Tactics.
Nobody knows about the 'WOKE' religion. Nobody cares about the 'WOKE' religion. I bet you just made it up.

Maybe you should try selling 2000 Mules again. Or the Twitter Files. Or maybe Hunters laptop. Benghazi anyone?

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