When the Democrats Pass this Bailout

[Cancel7]

You keep running away from your statement, made several times, the last time, earlier today, that "Obama is a bigger war monger than McCain"

Why dont' you back that up before burying me in your bullshit bac, seriously? You are always burying people in articles written, by Lord knows who, and then demanding they "deal with these facts".

And yet you can't even own up to your bullshit claim that Obama is a "bigger war monger than McCain".

Bottom line fact: Barack Obama has yet to cast one vote to start a war.

you're just full of shit man. Come on, just admit it. Id' love to find out how you got so invested in turning Obama from a pretty mainstream, kinda weak, democrat (that's repeating myself though), into the new anti-christ.

Who else says that Obama is the new antichrist, let me think?

to me, you are living proof that if you go far enough left, and far enough right, you will see where the two meet.

And not being as left as you are, does not make me a fool, or pro-war as you would like to claim. It just makes me feel relieved. Man, you guys will believe anything!

 

[Timshel]

I blame the minority of Dems on capitol hill who voted for the resolution of cowardice, and elevating political interests over the nation's interests. Some of us, like myself, Darla, Barack Obama, and Howard Dean had a visceral sense that we were being lied too. That something didn't smell right.

I blame Bush/Cheney/Rice and Powell for war crimes, and for intentional manipulation of intelligence to sell a war.


That's a huge difference.

??? I know for a fact libertarians were telling you that you were being lied to and there were plenty of lefties saying the same thing. You're full of shit and engaging in revisionist history. Visceral sense, lol.

 

[Cancel7]

I'm betting there's nothing to complain about.

I'm betting no one reads it.

Who wants to give odds?

 

[uscitizen]

I'm betting that uscit will not complain about BAC's verbosity.

actually unlike you I am having some difficulty figuring out where BAC is coming from on his stance.

but yes the verbosity did not help a bit.

 

[Cypress]

Maybe you should try smelling some older BS rather than just the fresh stuff:

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

We're so past that Dano.

Thinking he might have stockpiles of chemical weapons is harmless. I don't give a shit if somebody thought he had mustard gas.

The minute Bush said that Saddam was allied with Al Qaeda, that Saddam had a nuclear program, and that the secular socialist Saddam would pass his most prized weapons to muslim jihaddists who hated the Bathh regime, was when this whole fiasco passed into the realm of flat out lies.

A lot of people thought he might have had some chem/bio weapons.

That didn't justify a war.

Oh, and Pelosi voted against your war.

 

[Epicurus]

actually unlike you I am having some difficulty figuring out where BAC is coming from on his stance.

but yes the verbosity did not help a bit.

Bac is coming from the far left on his stance.

I understand why he advances criticisms of Obama, and if I shared all of bac's positions and priorities I would dislike Obama as well.

Interestingly both he and I are both critical of Obama, but we come at it from different sides of the spectrum.

 

[Cancel7]

Oh man I can't even believe you had the balls to write this, or to quote this?

"Indeed, given his record of voting repeatedly to fund the slaughter in Iraq, there is every reason to believe that Obama would have joined in issuing Bush the blank check for war, had he been a member of the US Senate at the time."

Fuck me man, who are you quoting, ME? I told YOU that, ass, during the primary, but I said that we really have no evidence that he would have had the courage to vote against the war had he been in the Senate. YOu fucking reamed me!

Wow you are some load bac, you really are.

Yeah gues what Professor clueless, go back and look at my posts, I guess I already knew this, since I was the one who told it to YOU.

But the fact remains, that he has not voted to begin any war, and since he did come out against it, I have always believed he would be the least likely out of the bunch to launch a new war were he President.

I gave up voting for the first woman president for that belief, so stick your lecture where it will do some good professor!

 

[uscitizen]

Darla, is obama not black enough for BAC ? I am having trouble figuring him out.

 

[blackascoal]

You keep running away from your statement, made several times, the last time, earlier today, that "Obama is a bigger war monger than McCain"

Why dont' you back that up before burying me in your bullshit bac, seriously? You are always burying people in articles written, by Lord knows who, and then demanding they "deal with these facts".

And yet you can't even own up to your bullshit claim that Obama is a "bigger war monger than McCain".

Bottom line fact: Barack Obama has yet to cast one vote to start a war.

you're just full of shit man. Come on, just admit it. Id' love to find out how you got so invested in turning Obama from a pretty mainstream, kinda weak, democrat (that's repeating myself though), into the new anti-christ.

Who else says that Obama is the new antichrist, let me think?

to me, you are living proof that if you go far enough left, and far enough right, you will see where the two meet.

And not being as left as you are, does not make me a fool, or pro-war as you would like to claim. It just makes me feel relieved. Man, you guys will believe anything!

McCain ATTACKED Obama for his saying that he would bomb away in Pakistan with or without the permission of the Pakistani government AND it is Obama who is talking about sending more US troops to their deaths in Afghanistan.

Am I lying?

And you'd be a bigger fool than you are proving yopurself to be if you think Obama wouldn't have voted for the Iraq resolution if he was in the Senate at the time.

Post where I called Obama the "antichrist" .. or is this just more emotional bullshit as well?

 

[blackascoal]

Darla, is obama not black enough for BAC ? I am having trouble figuring him out.

So you thought Darla would know.

There is no difficulty "figuring me out."

I'm against war and anyone who professes it and I've been consistent about it regardless of political party .. how about you?

Where's the difficulty .. or did you believe as Darla seems to that because I'm black I'm supposed to be voting for Obama?

 

[blackascoal]

I'm betting no one reads it.

Who wants to give odds?

You are indeed an idiot.

 

[Timshel]

But the fact remains, that he has not voted to begin any war, and since he did come out against it, I have always believed he would be the least likely out of the bunch to launch a new war were he President.

I have to agree with Darla here. Obama is too much of a warmonger for me, but not nearly as bad as McCain. I don't think anyone is as bad as McCain. McCain is a non-partisan warmonger. He has supported Clinton's wars and was calling for war on Iraq ahead of Bush. McCain is a true believer in war. I am surprised he has not called for us to bomb Wall Street.

 

[uscitizen]

So you thought Darla would know.

There is no difficulty "figuring me out."

I'm against war and anyone who professes it and I've been consistent about it regardless of political party .. how about you?

Where's the difficulty .. or did you believe as Darla seems to that because I'm black I'm supposed to be voting for Obama?

No, still trying to figure you out on this.
One Possibility I thought of was that since Obama was not raising up black issues that you strated to nitpick him.
Just a possibility.

I consider Obama to be less of a war monger than McCain and company. One has to take what they can get. Perfection in a politician is absurd.

 

[Epicurus]

I consider Obama to be less of a war monger than McCain and company. One has to take what they can get. Perfection in a politician is absurd.

Yeah I mean even RON PAUL let some racist write newsletters for him.

So how much can you really expect from an Obama or McCain.

 

[blackascoal]

No, still trying to figure you out on this.
One Possibility I thought of was that since Obama was not raising up black issues that you strated to nitpick him.
Just a possibility.

I consider Obama to be less of a war monger than McCain and company. One has to take what they can get. Perfection in a politician is absurd.

Obviously you're having difficulty reading.

I said I don't support anyone who professes war .. you can do whatever you want with your vote and support.

Much easier to claim some other goofiness to protect your candidate.

 

[LadyT]

I blame the minority of Dems on capitol hill who voted for the resolution of cowardice, and elevating political interests over the nation's interests. Some of us, like myself, Darla, Barack Obama, and Howard Dean had a visceral sense that we were being lied too. That something didn't smell right.

I blame Bush/Cheney/Rice and Powell for war crimes, and for intentional manipulation of intelligence to sell a war.


That's a huge difference.

ahem.........

 

[LadyT]

I have to agree with Darla here. Obama is too much of a warmonger for me, but not nearly as bad as McCain. I don't think anyone is as bad as McCain. McCain is a non-partisan warmonger. He has supported Clinton's wars and was calling for war on Iraq ahead of Bush. McCain is a true believer in war. I am surprised he has not called for us to bomb Wall Street.

ok that was actually funny.

 

[Timshel]

ahem.........

You want be included in the group of stupid people?

 

[Cypress]

Sorry LadyT - an unforgivable oversight!


To be fair however, I kind of lumped you in the war monger category, what with your war on children and all.

 

[Timshel]

Not that the people mentioned were stupid, but that you needed a "visceral sense" to know it was BS.