What we Know About the Wire Tapping

And thats the truth....he COULD HAVE....not he did....and no one is admitting to anything at the moment.....

Obama's denial was was he didn't 'ORDER' it.....of course he didn't because he can't....and ORDER can only be obtained form the court....the word ORDER has a specific meaning....

Baseless insinuation.

Like I said, it's what Trump does. It's all part of the "post-truth era" that we're currently in.
 
Baseless insinuation.

Like I said, it's what Trump does. It's all part of the "post-truth era" that we're currently in.

I didn't insinuate anything....thats only in your partisan mind....

I'm responsible for MY WORDS, not Trumps of anyone else's....
 
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Parse your words carefully....

Obama 'ordered' it....NO, only the FISA court can 'ORDER' it....
He could have 'requested' it....'suggested' it, etc. Maybe, no one is admitting to that.
The DOJ, or FBI, or CIA would be the ones going the court to get an 'order'....and they won't say.
Did Obama know about it ?.....we don't know that for a fact, but he could be kept in the loop and informed about it or the results of it....
again we don't know the facts.

No doubt the NYT published an article that the surveillance did happen and they got this 'information' from a leak...they
called it 'wiretapping'......

Trump certainly don't know enough to parse his words with care, but Obama officials, the FBI, CIA, and DOJ certainly do....so read carefully exactly what they
are claiming.....its usually true but I don't think the readers parse the claims carefully enough to recognize exactly what are confirming or denying.....

if we want to be utterly technical the ORDER does have to come from Obama. It can be signed by Lynch but only because Obama granted her that power by naming her AG. The FISA only approves or declines the order.
 
if we want to be utterly technical the ORDER does have to come from Obama. It can be signed by Lynch but only because Obama granted her that power by naming her AG. The FISA only approves or declines the order.

Sorry, you just wrong.....technically,

The president does not 'order' the FISA courts to do anything, he makes a request through the DOJ....the court issues the order for or against surveillance...

The DOJ does not NEED a request from the president or permission from him, they can make a request directly to the court during the course of an investigation they initiate...
by DOJ I mean the FBI for internal investigations or the CIA for foreign investigations....
 
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