What the Mueller investigation will tell us in the end.

Jarod

Jarod

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We now know of the Rump campaign's extensive efforts to illegally manipulate the international community and enlist their illegal help with Trumps election in any way possible.

Manafort, Cohen, Gates, Papadouplous and others were deeply involved.

Trump is well known as a micromanager and for knowing everything that goes on in his organizations.

So the question becomes... How skilled was Trump at covering his own trail and involvement. Did he think ahead and create plausible deniability, did he protect himself while allowing "his people to get their hands dirty? Did Trump keep at an arms length on these illegal activities, OR did he bumble into and out of it in a way that caused tracks.

I am not sure he knew these things were illegal so I wonder if he bothered to hide his trail.
 
like your typical CEO he didn't care if things were illegal

he just hired lawyers to do his bidding and sweep up behind him.


only profits matter


its a horrible inhuman life perspective
 
Jarod said:
We now know of the Rump campaign's extensive efforts to illegally manipulate the international community and enlist their illegal help with Trumps election in any way possible.

Manafort, Cohen, Gates, Papadouplous and others were deeply involved.

Trump is well known as a micromanager and for knowing everything that goes on in his organizations.

So the question becomes... How skilled was Trump at covering his own trail and involvement. Did he think ahead and create plausible deniability, did he protect himself while allowing "his people to get their hands dirty? Did Trump keep at an arms length on these illegal activities, OR did he bumble into and out of it in a way that caused tracks.

I am not sure he knew these things were illegal so I wonder if he bothered to hide his trail.
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Can you name one person who has been indicted or convicted of the specific crimes you just identified?

Don’t bring up “process” crimes.

Name one person in Trumps campaign that was convicted or indicted for anything related to campaign activities and not “lying to the FBI”

Oh and Manaforts crimes from 10 years ago don’t count
 
I Love America said:
Can you name one person who has been indicted or convicted of the specific crimes you just identified?

Don’t bring up “process” crimes.

Name one person in Trumps campaign that was convicted or indicted for anything related to campaign activities and not “lying to the FBI”

Oh and Manaforts crimes from 10 years ago don’t count
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When you can explain the relevance of this I will answer.
 
Jarod said:
When you can explain the relevance of this I will answer.
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You really need it explained to you?

You cited specific crimes that the aforementioned people were guilty of.

Why haven’t any of them been convicted of an underlying crime?

I mean you actually believe the story that Manafort met with Assange during the 2016 campaign even though the embassy logs don’t show it and neither does Manaforts passport. I guess you think Manafort is a ninja warrior?

All Mueller has gotten is people “lying to the FBI”. Not one underlying crime. Zilch. Nada. Zero.

Yet you think he is going to get Trump?

Don’t you understand your own post? Why do I have to explain your own
 
Jarod said:
We now know of the Rump campaign's extensive efforts to illegally manipulate the international community and enlist their illegal help with Trumps election in any way possible.

Manafort, Cohen, Gates, Papadouplous and others were deeply involved.
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GayRod this was how you started your thread. I asked you to name one person that Mueller has indicted for “illegally manipulating the international community”. And your response is “why is it relevant”?

Just admit Mueller and you have nothing. It is fantasy

Stop embarrassing yourself. You aren relegating yourself to Deshland
 
I Love America said:
You really need it explained to you?

You cited specific crimes that the aforementioned people were guilty of.

Why haven’t any of them been convicted of an underlying crime?

I mean you actually believe the story that Manafort met with Assange during the 2016 campaign even though the embassy logs don’t show it and neither does Manaforts passport. I guess you think Manafort is a ninja warrior?

All Mueller has gotten is people “lying to the FBI”. Not one underlying crime. Zilch. Nada. Zero.

Yet you think he is going to get Trump?

Don’t you understand your own post? Why do I have to explain your own
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1) When you get someone to cooperate you have them plead guilty to the least of the crimes.
2) During an active investigation you don't charge people with the ultimate crime until disclosure does not harm your ability to investigate.
3) Its clear where/what these crimes are.
4) Obviously I don't know if they will get Trump, see post #1, that's the point of this thread.
 
I Love America said:
GayRod this was how you started your thread. I asked you to name one person that Mueller has indicted for “illegally manipulating the international community”. And your response is “why is it relevant”?

Just admit Mueller and you have nothing. It is fantasy

Stop embarrassing yourself. You aren relegating yourself to Deshland
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Did I say that people were indicted for "Illegally manipulating the international community"?
 
Mueller's investigation will reveal Trump's decades long efforts to build a huge cash cow in Moscow, working with whichever Russian despot, crashed and burned during his campaign, and included collusion with whichever Russian intel group by seedy Team Trump toady's as required, then was fully compromised by Putin after lying to the American people on the campaign trail about doing business in Russia

or something similar
 
Jarod said:
Did I say that people were indicted for "Illegally

manipulating the international community"?
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No. That is the point. You said they were guilty of it but nobody has been charged yet you think Trump will be

You don’t understand how the law works. You are a sorry excuse for lawyer

You are dismissed
 
Jarod said:
We now know of the Rump campaign's extensive efforts to illegally manipulate the international community and enlist their illegal help with Trumps election in any way possible.

Manafort, Cohen, Gates, Papadouplous and others were deeply involved.

Trump is well known as a micromanager and for knowing everything that goes on in his organizations.

So the question becomes... How skilled was Trump at covering his own trail and involvement. Did he think ahead and create plausible deniability, did he protect himself while allowing "his people to get their hands dirty? Did Trump keep at an arms length on these illegal activities, OR did he bumble into and out of it in a way that caused tracks.

I am not sure he knew these things were illegal so I wonder if he bothered to hide his trail.
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You don't know shit. More lies and speculation from the left wing nutters.
 
I Love America said:
No. That is the point. You said they were guilty of it but nobody has been charged yet you think Trump will be

You don’t understand how the law works. You are a sorry excuse for lawyer

You are dismissed
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Sounds like, to me, that Handjob, fancies herself to be a legal expert, but the cunt hasn't spent a single day in a law school.
 
I Love America said:
You really need it explained to you?

You cited specific crimes that the aforementioned people were guilty of.

Why haven’t any of them been convicted of an underlying crime?

I mean you actually believe the story that Manafort met with Assange during the 2016 campaign even though the embassy logs don’t show it and neither does Manaforts passport. I guess you think Manafort is a ninja warrior?

All Mueller has gotten is people “lying to the FBI”. Not one underlying crime. Zilch. Nada. Zero.

Yet you think he is going to get Trump?

Don’t you understand your own post? Why do I have to explain your own
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Wasn't Gayrod and others arguing Hillary wasn't indicted therefore did nothing wrong?

So the same isn't true for the Trump team?
 
Jarod said:
We now know of the Rump campaign's extensive efforts to illegally manipulate the international community and enlist their illegal help with Trumps election in any way possible.

Manafort, Cohen, Gates, Papadouplous and others were deeply involved.

Trump is well known as a micromanager and for knowing everything that goes on in his organizations.

So the question becomes... How skilled was Trump at covering his own trail and involvement. Did he think ahead and create plausible deniability, did he protect himself while allowing "his people to get their hands dirty? Did Trump keep at an arms length on these illegal activities, OR did he bumble into and out of it in a way that caused tracks.

I am not sure he knew these things were illegal so I wonder if he bothered to hide his trail.
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There’s several problems with your latest hopeful theory lol.

One is, as stated a million times now, enlisting foreign help in an election [collusion] is not illegal. Or at least if it is, the DNC/Clinton Crime Consortium was unaware of it. Maybe collusion in an election should be illegal, but congress and not Mullet, is in charge of making law.

The second problem is related to the first: Mullet reports to Whitaker so Whitaker gets to decide how much of Mullets findings gets released. If Mullet found that the Trump campaign nearly broke laws—but didn’t, don’t expect to hear that from Whitaker. Recall that one of the reasons Comey was fired was for making similar pronouncements about Hillary—which didn’t involve anything illegal—Comey had his federal prosecutor hat on when he went he made that determination—yet another reason he deserved to be fired—and was fired.

So unless Mullet has an actual statute that Trump or whoever broke, all you will likely hear about is Manafort, Cohen and et all.

Little Shifty Schitt and the The Resistance will have a conniption and House Democrats will subpoena Whitaker/Mullet to see what laws Trump ‘nearly broke’ so they can impeach him, finally.

Or so they hope lol. And around we go.
 
Jarod said:
When you can explain the relevance of this I will answer.
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We don’t know everything Mueller had on these people, only the minimal crime he decided to use as to not reveal his full investigation. These people are too impatient.
 
I Love America said:
No. That is the point. You said they were guilty of it but nobody has been charged yet you think Trump will be

You don’t understand how the law works. You are a sorry excuse for lawyer

You are dismissed
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Plenty of people are guilty of things they are never charged with.
 
Darth Beto Omar said:
There’s several problems with your latest hopeful theory lol.

One is, as stated a million times now, enlisting foreign help in an election [collusion] is not illegal. Or at least if it is, the DNC/Clinton Crime Consortium was unaware of it. Maybe collusion in an election should be illegal, but congress and not Mullet, is in charge of making law.

The second problem is related to the first: Mullet reports to Whitaker so Whitaker gets to decide how much of Mullets findings gets released. If Mullet found that the Trump campaign nearly broke laws—but didn’t, don’t expect to hear that from Whitaker. Recall that one of the reasons Comey was fired was for making similar pronouncements about Hillary—which didn’t involve anything illegal—Comey had his federal prosecutor hat on when he went he made that determination—yet another reason he deserved to be fired—and was fired.

So unless Mullet has an actual statute that Trump or whoever broke, all you will likely hear about is Manafort, Cohen and et all.

Little Shifty Schitt and the The Resistance will have a conniption and House Democrats will subpoena Whitaker/Mullet to see what laws Trump ‘nearly broke’ so they can impeach him, finally.

Or so they hope lol. And around we go.
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1) You are hopefully ignorant, it is illegal.
2) You misunderstand about what and how the report gets released, the House has subpoena power over it for example.
3) Why was Comey fired, we never got a straight answer about that?
 
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