PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
I think its cute that you think things have changed.......you only need to go back to Biden, commenting on Obama......
"What the hell do you have to lose?"
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I think its cute that you think things have changed.......you only need to go back to Biden, commenting on Obama......
During a riot, when businesses begin to burn and rocks are thrown and guns are fired, political actors in those little boxes on TV begin to bark in cliches.
They use words like "empowerment" and "investment" and "social infrastructure" and "social justice."
Blame is assessed and pressed like hot iron into the flanks of the rich, or of "corporations," and others with means, a moronic and frightening misunderstanding of how jobs are created. It is as if "The Big Rock Candy Mountain" has become economic policy.
And by such logic all we must do is lower the rich into a giant cauldron, add salt and bay leaves and boil them down for soup to soothe the neighborhoods on fire.
And while we're at it, why not find that magical unlimited federal checkbook and a committee of the best and the brightest to guide us?
But we've already had government run by the best and the brightest. And we've spent trillions of dollars in America's war on poverty.
And just what has been accomplished? The crime statistics tell you. The jobless numbers tell you. The graduation rates tell you. Open your eyes and see the despair.
What isn't discussed enough when riots happen and neighborhoods burn is the one thing most common to all these decaying urban tinderboxes.
They're run by Democrats.
Baltimore is a Democratic city, Milwaukee is a Democratic city, Chicago, Detroit, and on and on.
This is a most inconvenient truth. This is what binds them.
For decade after decade, Democrats have controlled policy and politics in the broken cities. This is the proof of Democratic success.
The broken schools have been run by Democrats for decades. The broken institutions are run by Democrats.
The political corruption in these cities is Democratic corruption, where government is the hammer used to beat others into forking over their cash.
The corruption tax presses down upon the economic wastelands, where there are no jobs to be had.
Urban school systems remain broken for students and families. Yet they feed the bureaucrats and the vendors who sell goods and services to education bureaucrats.
And the well-fed know what they're supposed to do on Election Day: Vote Democratic.
Big city school bureaucrats are political creatures, loyal to their sponsors in the statehouse or at your City Hall. The teachers unions, by definition, are about protecting their members. Everybody's covered but the desperate.
And the kids? They don't have a union. They can't vote. They don't write campaign checks to politicians.
Those who suffer the most from broken urban policy are those who are told that Democrats are the only ones who can protect them.
Protect them from what? Poverty, violence, joblessness and bad schools? All that has been provided.
Those who push broken government programs and liberal policy aren't evil people. Most intended to work for the good.
Are there alternatives to the crushing cynicism of the Democratic welfare state? Yes. Liberty is the answer, not some politician using government to "empower" people. Growth is the answer, not government control.
People need hope. And meaningful work — which doesn't mean waltzing around with a clipboard on some government payroll — is essential for self-respect.
So here are some alternatives:
Radically cut taxes and change workers' compensation and other anti-business laws in urban areas to promote business job growth.
And support true school choice — meaning vouchers — so impoverished minority students aren't deprived of a future.
Democrat bosses, the trial lawyers and public unions hate such ideas. But then, they're the muscle of Democratic politics.
That strong arm of government helps politicians to maintain power and control.
But as we've seen, the strong arm of government can also pave the road to hell.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-urban-unrest-kass-0821-20160819-column.html
They use words like "empowerment" and "investment" and "social infrastructure" and "social justice."
Blame is assessed and pressed like hot iron into the flanks of the rich, or of "corporations," and others with means, a moronic and frightening misunderstanding of how jobs are created. It is as if "The Big Rock Candy Mountain" has become economic policy.
And by such logic all we must do is lower the rich into a giant cauldron, add salt and bay leaves and boil them down for soup to soothe the neighborhoods on fire.
And while we're at it, why not find that magical unlimited federal checkbook and a committee of the best and the brightest to guide us?
But we've already had government run by the best and the brightest. And we've spent trillions of dollars in America's war on poverty.
And just what has been accomplished? The crime statistics tell you. The jobless numbers tell you. The graduation rates tell you. Open your eyes and see the despair.
What isn't discussed enough when riots happen and neighborhoods burn is the one thing most common to all these decaying urban tinderboxes.
They're run by Democrats.
Baltimore is a Democratic city, Milwaukee is a Democratic city, Chicago, Detroit, and on and on.
This is a most inconvenient truth. This is what binds them.
For decade after decade, Democrats have controlled policy and politics in the broken cities. This is the proof of Democratic success.
The broken schools have been run by Democrats for decades. The broken institutions are run by Democrats.
The political corruption in these cities is Democratic corruption, where government is the hammer used to beat others into forking over their cash.
The corruption tax presses down upon the economic wastelands, where there are no jobs to be had.
Urban school systems remain broken for students and families. Yet they feed the bureaucrats and the vendors who sell goods and services to education bureaucrats.
And the well-fed know what they're supposed to do on Election Day: Vote Democratic.
Big city school bureaucrats are political creatures, loyal to their sponsors in the statehouse or at your City Hall. The teachers unions, by definition, are about protecting their members. Everybody's covered but the desperate.
And the kids? They don't have a union. They can't vote. They don't write campaign checks to politicians.
Those who suffer the most from broken urban policy are those who are told that Democrats are the only ones who can protect them.
Protect them from what? Poverty, violence, joblessness and bad schools? All that has been provided.
Those who push broken government programs and liberal policy aren't evil people. Most intended to work for the good.
Are there alternatives to the crushing cynicism of the Democratic welfare state? Yes. Liberty is the answer, not some politician using government to "empower" people. Growth is the answer, not government control.
People need hope. And meaningful work — which doesn't mean waltzing around with a clipboard on some government payroll — is essential for self-respect.
So here are some alternatives:
Radically cut taxes and change workers' compensation and other anti-business laws in urban areas to promote business job growth.
And support true school choice — meaning vouchers — so impoverished minority students aren't deprived of a future.
Democrat bosses, the trial lawyers and public unions hate such ideas. But then, they're the muscle of Democratic politics.
That strong arm of government helps politicians to maintain power and control.
But as we've seen, the strong arm of government can also pave the road to hell.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-urban-unrest-kass-0821-20160819-column.html
Legion Troll
A fine upstanding poster
He made himself the face of the “birther” lie against President Obama.
He claims credit for pushing the President to release his birth certificate. (Ironic considering John McCain really was born outside of the country, as was Ted Cruz.)
For many black Americans, the entire birther conspiracy was added to the list of indignities no previous commander in chief, all of whom were white, had been subjected to.
While most birthers until Trump had primarily been seen as basement kooks who occasionally landed airtime on a few cable shows, he lent the movement a mainstream face that black Americans have not forgotten.
Black people are well acquainted with coded dog whistles–and the impact they can have.
For instance, Trump’s false tweet about the level of crimes committed by black Americans against whites is precisely the kind of rhetoric that plays into the worst fears of his overwhelmingly white supporters.
He’s been doing this for decades, since he put out full-page ads calling for the death penalty for the five black boys of the Central Park Five (something he’s never apologized for, even after it emerged that those boys, who spend decades behind bars, were innocent).
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/15/no-group-loathes-donald-trump-as-much-as-african-americans-here-s-why.html
He claims credit for pushing the President to release his birth certificate. (Ironic considering John McCain really was born outside of the country, as was Ted Cruz.)
For many black Americans, the entire birther conspiracy was added to the list of indignities no previous commander in chief, all of whom were white, had been subjected to.
While most birthers until Trump had primarily been seen as basement kooks who occasionally landed airtime on a few cable shows, he lent the movement a mainstream face that black Americans have not forgotten.
Black people are well acquainted with coded dog whistles–and the impact they can have.
For instance, Trump’s false tweet about the level of crimes committed by black Americans against whites is precisely the kind of rhetoric that plays into the worst fears of his overwhelmingly white supporters.
He’s been doing this for decades, since he put out full-page ads calling for the death penalty for the five black boys of the Central Park Five (something he’s never apologized for, even after it emerged that those boys, who spend decades behind bars, were innocent).
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/15/no-group-loathes-donald-trump-as-much-as-african-americans-here-s-why.html
cawacko
Well-known member
Local level politics and national politics can be two very different things. How many hundreds, if not thousands, of posts have been made over Trump and Clinton on this board? But many times more change comes in our day to day life on the local level than the national level. Having cities that aren't all one party, depending on the circumstance, can be good. Gentrification is occurring in some cities but do large minority populations necessarily benefit from having only democratic run cities? I would argue they don't.
Of course it's not up to me how everyone else votes so to each their own. But I would feel quite confident standing in front of a large group of minority community members of SF or Oakland explaining why having some Republican representation is a good thing
What LBJ said and what he did is now history.....and his prediction was right on the money......he'll have them voting Dem for the next 200 years.....he was a genius in this field.....taking advantage of the most susceptible in the population, and that obviously includes the whites too.....
Everybody has an opinion, and love to label those that don't agree with them, racists and bigots, usually by denying reality and facts.....
SurveyUSA announced that Donald Trump would receive 25% among black registered voters.
To put that in perspective, President George W. Bush received less than 9% of the black vote, and Senator John McCain (R-AZ) earned less than 4%
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Musa al-Gharbi Black. Muslim. Sociologist.
A common narrative this election season is that Hillary Clinton will almost certain triumph over Donald Trump because he’s a misogynist and a bigot and “there simply aren’t enough white men“ as a share of the electorate to allow him to win.
First, it turns out that white voters make up a larger share of the electorate than people tend to think. So many more, in fact, that there is a fairly stable path to victory for Trump even if he does no better among minorities than Mitt Romney, and even if he suffers among college-educated whites (more on that later).
Second, these pundits have been hasty in assuming Trump would not do well with minorities. Right now, he is trending to not only meet, but to exceed, Mitt Romney’s 2012 performance. If he manages to surpass his predecessor by a few percentage points with whites or key minority groups (and especially if he manages to do both), then he’ll likely be classing up the White House come 2017. And right now, things are looking pretty good.
At the moment, roughly 10% of African Americans have a positive view of Trump, and another 15% are undecided between Trump and Clinton. At first blush, this does not sound great—winning between 10-25% of the black vote would still mean he’s overwhelmingly unpopular with African Americans. However, given that Mitt Romney won a dismal 6% of the black vote, Trump stands to exceed his predecessor by a wide margin.
What’s perhaps more surprising is that Trump may even outperform Mitt Romney among Hispanics. 23% of Latino voters support Trump, with another 15% undecided—putting him on-track to meet Romney’s 27%.
People on both sides of the political spectrum tend to talk and think about minorities as a homogenous block.
For instance, many African Americans are critical of immigrants. In fact, many Latinos are unsympathetic towards illegal immigrants, even from Latin America: they are concerned about border security; they often feel they’ve “earned” their place in America, and that others should do the same. There are large numbers of black and Latino evangelicals who harbor Islamophobic sentiments; there are even some Hindu Indians who are supporting Donald Trump because of his anti-Muslim rhetoric.
Moreover, it is likely that Trump will win a larger share of the LGBT vote than any Republican candidate has. This is not only for his unorthodox positions on gender and sexual minority issues, but also in part due to his hardline rhetoric against “radical Islam”: LGBT and feminist movements have long been complicit in anti-Islam fervor—a trend which may be exacerbated in the wake of the ISIS-inspired attack on Pulse in Orlando (despite the many voices from the LGBT community who aspire to push back against these reactions).
As a matter of fact, Trump’s anti-Muslim proposals are actually supported by a majority of Americans. Indeed, many of his espoused xenophobic and bigoted views enjoy much wider support than most seem willing to believe or acknowledge—cutting across gender, class, ethnic, and even party lines.
Moreover, there are reasons to believe that Trump’s actual support among women and college-educated whites may be under-represented in polls. One strong piece of evidence to support this conclusion are exit polls from the primaries, wherein Trump supporters tended to be both wealthier and more educated than the average American.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/musa-algharbi/trump-could-win-the-minor_b_10434332.html
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cawacko
Well-known member
That surveyusa poll was from last September. Trump has like one percent. The concerning number is polling among Hispanic voters. He's getting beat bad there
Legion Troll
A fine upstanding poster
You read the Huffington Post?
BTW, the article you cited is from June 13 and the survey was done almost a year ago.
Poor Blabo.