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What TARP money for jobs???
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Whatever you do, don't tell him to kiss your ass; because then you'll never get rid of him.
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No, you have no idea what I'm talking about.
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thats because you're talking gibberish...you don't even know what an effective interest rate is, you've admitted to using incorrect terms....is it any wonder no one knows what you're talking about....
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thats because you're talking gibberish...you don't even know what an effective interest rate is, you've admitted to using incorrect terms....is it any wonder no one knows what you're talking about....
No, it's because you're an idiot and I'm above your level of thinking.
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uh huh...thats why you didn't know that effective and actual interest rate are the same thing....
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Why has the thread been hijacked into this meaningless debate with an idiot about interest and monetary stuff?
The THREAD TOPIC is regarding our Government allowing the Executive Branch to over-reach its authority! Congress laid out TARP legislation after careful deliberation by the appropriately appointed representatives of the people! How can the Executive Branch step in and lay claim to the funding? It is an outrageous breach of power, and it appears everyone is just oblivious to it! O'well... We do need jobs! ...fuck the Constitution!
This is our tax money (and the money of our kids and grandkids at this point!) Our representatives didn't approve an Obama Liberal-targeted Jobs Stimulus Package! If Democrats want that, bring the legislation before the Congress and let's debate it! This is an END RUN around the rule of law, the Constitution, and our rights as American citizens! It is an utter OUTRAGE!
The THREAD TOPIC is regarding our Government allowing the Executive Branch to over-reach its authority! Congress laid out TARP legislation after careful deliberation by the appropriately appointed representatives of the people! How can the Executive Branch step in and lay claim to the funding? It is an outrageous breach of power, and it appears everyone is just oblivious to it! O'well... We do need jobs! ...fuck the Constitution!
This is our tax money (and the money of our kids and grandkids at this point!) Our representatives didn't approve an Obama Liberal-targeted Jobs Stimulus Package! If Democrats want that, bring the legislation before the Congress and let's debate it! This is an END RUN around the rule of law, the Constitution, and our rights as American citizens! It is an utter OUTRAGE!
If this is a good idea now, it was good last year. The waiting can only be interpreted as politic. The Ds believe that if they can hit some low-lying fruit they can make people believe that they need to be re-elected just in time for an election. Just some news for y'all... it would work if people had been gaining jobs all this time, there was no need to attempt to time it for the election year.
They actually gave all the power to the SEC chair, at the time of TARP it was Badnarick. They can spend that money on whatever they want. It's a fricking slush fund.
That's topspin's theory. I'm not so naive as to think that politicians do not try to "time" things occasionally for elections, but the idea that they felt confident enough to play around with the economy as it was to try to "time" jobs is kind of insane.
The more jobs, the better it is for incumbents -whether they were jobs created this past February or next October. I don't buy that paranoia....
YES! OMFG, that would be totally awesome!. I would love for the barrcuda and the republicans to propose a 200 billion dollar moose hunters's inititative!
HaHa! Don't ever change, man! I never get tired of your drama queen act, your man-crush on Bush, your chickenhawkishness, and your tireles support of a two trillion dollar epic mistake in Iraq.
No, they are attempting to hit fruit that they previously wouldn't have hit with the timed release from the stimulus. I pointed out that the stimulus spending happens largely in election years previously. This just adds to it.
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Relax Dixie. Obama has not said he's going to act without congress. That is an invention of the right-wing imagination.
So long as he has Geithner on his side there is no need to seek Congressional approval. Geithner is the sole controlling authority for that money according to the original TARP legislation.
Nah. It would mean that most of the politicians involved have no understanding of economics.
Because jobs in 2009 lead to MORE jobs in 2010. More people spending money, more consumer confidence, more businesses doing well & hiring. It would be lunacy to say, "hey - we can create jobs in 2009, but let's wait until 2010, so it looks like lots of jobs are created just before the election." There are too many other factors involved.
I just don't buy it. I don't think that kind of conversation exists, at least on the scale it would need to in order to have a whole Congress "time" jobs stimulus. I think they'll take any jobs they can get, any time they can get 'em.
Most of them don't, most of them solely understand the working of power.
And it doesn't take the "conversation" that you keep talking about. It solely takes the understanding that there isn't enough. Especially when you only have to convince one person to spend TARP money.
I love the way you say first that you wouldn't put it past them, then dismiss it because you put it past them...
Again, the TARP funds are not controlled by congress. When they voted for it they gave the SEC Chair the sole discretion of those funds. As an Executive appointee, only one person within the administration needs to be convinces to spend the money at this time.
All that had to happen is people to realize that their planned stimulus wasn't enough, and that there was a slush fund to tap, then to convince that one person in control of the slush fund to spend it this way.
I still love the way you "don't put it past them", at the same time you try to put it past them.
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With this administration, what difference does it make? They are going to claim some outrageous number of [mythical] jobs they have created, (even though we continue to lose jobs) they are lying about that now, why wouldn't they do it for the election?
The biggest point of contention I have, is a fundamental disagreement with the administration on how to create jobs! If we fritter away billions on 'make-work' projects that dry up and blow away when the money runs out, it's not doing much for our job problems or economy! These are debates best suited for Congress and The People, not left to the will of the sitting President!
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Bullshit! Congress can rescind their appropriation of the funds at ANY time! They should do exactly THAT, given the President himself, admits the TARP funds have served their purpose! Oh, okay, so you don't need this anymore to bail out America's financial sector? Good... we can reduce the National DEBT!
LOL. That's like saying that they didn't actually vote to allow the war because they can later vote to rescind that approval. It's silly. They gave 100% control to one man. Yeah, they can vote to remove that, but until then Obama has only one man to convince to legally spend that money.
The people who have had control over that money is Bernanke and then Geithner, no others. And if Geithner wanted to tell Obama to take a flying leap he could.