What Should Happen to Jared Loughner?

Loghner's punishment should be:

  • Death Penalty

    Votes: 10 41.7%

  • Life Without Parole

    Votes: 7 29.2%

  • Life With Possibility of Parole

    Votes: 2 8.3%

  • Innocent by reason of insanity (sent to a mental institution)

    Votes: 4 16.7%

  • Not Guilty

    Votes: 1 4.2%
  • Total voters
    24
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Dixie - In Memoriam

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DENVER • A federal grand jury indicted Jared Lee Loughner on Wednesday for attempting to assassinate Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., and two staffers in a Tucson, Ariz., shooting rampage that killed six and wounded 13.

The indictment is the first in an expected series against Loughner, 22, who could face the death penalty if convicted in the Jan. 8 events.
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Okay, time to vote... What do you think should be his punishment?
 
Dixie said:
DENVER • A federal grand jury indicted Jared Lee Loughner on Wednesday for attempting to assassinate Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., and two staffers in a Tucson, Ariz., shooting rampage that killed six and wounded 13.

The indictment is the first in an expected series against Loughner, 22, who could face the death penalty if convicted in the Jan. 8 events.
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If he's found to be competent and convicted, he should be executed.
 
Dixie said:
DENVER • A federal grand jury indicted Jared Lee Loughner on Wednesday for attempting to assassinate Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., and two staffers in a Tucson, Ariz., shooting rampage that killed six and wounded 13.

The indictment is the first in an expected series against Loughner, 22, who could face the death penalty if convicted in the Jan. 8 events.
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Is this going to be the new way of dispensing justice in the USA?
 
tom prendergast said:
Is this going to be the new way of dispensing justice in the USA?
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No, just asking what opinions are. I know it is hard to believe I actually wanted your opinion, and you may not even understand what that means, living in a world where you are told what to do like a little prole, but I just thought it would make for an interesting poll question and discussion.

I don't think there are many left, who think this guy wasn't mentally disturbed to some degree.. but he obviously knew right from wrong, just before the shootings, he left voice mails to his friends asking them to not be mad at him. So what should be done with this individual? I voted to fry him. I know that may seem harsh, being that I also believe he is mentally disturbed and crazy... but my perspective on that is, we put down mad dogs, mad pigs, mad horses, and all kinds of other animals who have lost their mind, and never have a problem with that. In fact, we view that as "humane" to do... but not with people? We're supposed to keep him institutionalized or imprisoned, trapped in his schizophrenic world for the rest of his natural life? How cruel can you possibly be? So, from my perspective, we would be putting him out of his misery, and ridding society of his presence. Win-win!
 
I voted death penalty. he might be mentally ill, but he isn't mentally ill enough to not know indiscrminate shooting was going to kill others around him.
 
Dixie said:
we put down mad dogs, mad pigs, mad horses, and all kinds of other animals who have lost their mind, and never have a problem with that. In fact, we view that as "humane" to do... but not with people? We're supposed to keep him institutionalized or imprisoned, trapped in his schizophrenic world for the rest of his natural life? How cruel can you possibly be?
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You raise a valid point. Decent, law-abiding citizens who contract fatal diseases such as ALS are denied the right to choose active euthanasia and condemned to slowly waste away while their mental faculties remain in tact.

Because many illnesses do not have a cure patients are little more than lab rats given an experimental cocktail of drugs (drugs; while individually approved, the combination is often experimental.)

When it comes to ending the worst pain and misery we have more compassion for a dog than we do for fellow human beings.

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Dixie said:
No, just asking what opinions are. I know it is hard to believe I actually wanted your opinion, and you may not even understand what that means, living in a world where you are told what to do like a little prole, but I just thought it would make for an interesting poll question and discussion.

I don't think there are many left, who think this guy wasn't mentally disturbed to some degree.. but he obviously knew right from wrong, just before the shootings, he left voice mails to his friends asking them to not be mad at him. So what should be done with this individual? I voted to fry him. I know that may seem harsh, being that I also believe he is mentally disturbed and crazy... but my perspective on that is, we put down mad dogs, mad pigs, mad horses, and all kinds of other animals who have lost their mind, and never have a problem with that. In fact, we view that as "humane" to do... but not with people? We're supposed to keep him institutionalized or imprisoned, trapped in his schizophrenic world for the rest of his natural life? How cruel can you possibly be? So, from my perspective, we would be putting him out of his misery, and ridding society of his presence. Win-win!
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SmarterThanYou said:
I voted death penalty. he might be mentally ill, but he isn't mentally ill enough to not know indiscrminate shooting was going to kill others around him.
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That's really the issue. Was he mentally competent to understand the difference between right and wrong? If he was, then I'd prefer life with out parole. With out really knowing to what degree he is mentally disturbed it's hard to state a reasonable opinion. One thing is for sure, he should never, ever be given the opportunity to harm anyone ever again. Sane or insane, he should be locked up forever.
 
Dixie said:
No, just asking what opinions are. I know it is hard to believe I actually wanted your opinion, and you may not even understand what that means, living in a world where you are told what to do like a little prole, but I just thought it would make for an interesting poll question and discussion.

I don't think there are many left, who think this guy wasn't mentally disturbed to some degree.. but he obviously knew right from wrong, just before the shootings, he left voice mails to his friends asking them to not be mad at him. So what should be done with this individual? I voted to fry him. I know that may seem harsh, being that I also believe he is mentally disturbed and crazy... but my perspective on that is, we put down mad dogs, mad pigs, mad horses, and all kinds of other animals who have lost their mind, and never have a problem with that. In fact, we view that as "humane" to do... but not with people? We're supposed to keep him institutionalized or imprisoned, trapped in his schizophrenic world for the rest of his natural life? How cruel can you possibly be? So, from my perspective, we would be putting him out of his misery, and ridding society of his presence. Win-win!
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What's cruel is your casual way of comparing a human being with a mad dog, and implying that he'd be trapped in a schizophrenic world for life. He could be institutionalized and treated. Many people who take their medicine as directed can still lead productive lives.

There should be a category called Guilty but mentally ill (sent to a mental institution). That's the one I'd vote for.

"Faced with the difficulty of cases such as Ralph Tortorici's, where a defendant has clearly committed the crimes in question but is obviously mentally ill, many states have adopted laws providing for a "guilty but mentally ill" plea or verdict. This does not eliminate the insanity defense; it is merely an alternative for defendants who are found to be mentally ill, but whose illness is not severe enough to relieve him of criminal responsibility.

A defendant who receives a GBMI verdict is sentenced in the same way as if he were found guilty. The court then determines whether and to what extent he requires treatment for mental illness. When, and if, the defendant is deemed "cured" of his mental illness, he is required to serve out the rest of his sentence, unlike an insanity-defense acquittee who would be released from psychiatric commitment once he is deemed to be no longer dangerous."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/crime/trial/faqs.html
 
I say give him a choice:

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Well vigilante justice may sound nice but there's a larger principle involved. That being due process of law. Something he denied his victims. We are a civilized people who live by the rule of law. He should be given a fair trial and proscribed the appropriate punishments if (more like when) found guilty.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Well vigilante justice may sound nice but there's a larger principle involved. That being due process of law. Something he denied his victims. We are a civilized people who live by the rule of law. He should be given a fair trial and proscribed the appropriate punishments if (more like when) found guilty.
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No one is suggesting vigilante justice emo boy.

He is already in custody. We know he did it. We are talking about what punishment he should get when convicted.
 
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