What should be the political platform planks of the OWLs?

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Kurmugeon

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We are at the crux of a historical moment in American history, the demise of the Democratic Party, and the birth of the OWLs!

OWLs! - Ordinary Working Libertarians.

The sensible Party in the center, working hard for Working People!

So, what should become the primary political platform planks of the New Working People's political party?

From what group of people should they recruit their first candidates?

Will we be able to get enough organization completed to field candidates in all 50 states in 2018?

Should we allow ANY office holding Democrats to cross over?

There is a mountain of work to do!....

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Here is a comment from another forum:

I would argue, for popularity's sake, that it has to include the basic Tea parties' tenants: less taxes, smaller government and more liberty.
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Agreed. All three of those element should be in the top ten!

By "More Liberty", I would say, much less "Regulations". We need to put a sunset on any regulation over 19 years old. If its a good and needed regulation, it can and will be renewed every 20 years.
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Swell, lets dump child labor laws and get them twelve year olds out in the work force

I was correct, another white nationalist party, in other words, bunch of old white farts angry because the voice on the phone requests "push one for English"
 
Again from another forum, but worth noting:

Before I answer the question, I'd like to know what the current Libertarian positions on economics and foreign policy are. If this is an open solicitation on what they should be , I'd think they'd adopt a non-interventionist foreign policy and have a creative solution for economics, since the current capitalist/mixed economic model is fundamentally flawed. Otherwise, their wouldn't be enough differentiation between the Libertarian and D-R positions.
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When did Capitalism fail?

As to being flawed, there is nothing in creation which doesn't have flaws. That doesn't mean it can't be made functional and provide prosperity for the vast majority.

I don't think that the new Working People's party is going to embrace Marxism or Socialism, and since the Democratic Party, under Obama did, that is economic differentiation enough for most working folk.

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Once again from another forum, but gets straight to an issue many will worry about:

The Democratic Party needs to go away.

IF the OWLs embraced the TEA Parties major three tenants as listed above, they would steal a ton of voters from the Republicans and be a force. They could broach common ground with the OWS crowd and really make a run for it. But, the powers that be that want bigger government and crony capitalism in the Democratic Party are going to fight you tooth and nail and call you racists, sexists, and a whole lot more.
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Nothing worthwhile is easy.

I've already been called every sort of dirty name possible... I find I don't care what such people think.

I do care allot about the working people of America.

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There is allot of really good conversation occuring on this subject on other forums:

1) Strict Constitutional adhereance at the federal level
2) Human services programs ARE acceptible and the STATE LEVEL while being closing monitored for effectiveness.
3) And here's my very non LP belief that "For freedom to live the megacorps must die"
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1) What does it mean to Adhere to the Constitution? The Lefties say that they are adhering to a "living document interpretation of the Constitution".

I agree this is a critical issue, but it needs a much more detailed explaination and definition.


2) As far as I know, all Human Services are actually provided by local, state level agencies and mechanisms. The Fed only comes into play, because we allow them to take the money to Washington D.C., Bicker and Pander with it, before sending a much smaller sum back to SELECT States.

This needs to end.

But it means that poor states, like my State of New Mexico, will not be able to afford to continue to largess given in Human Services, particularly to large numbers of Illegal Immigrants.

Which means, the moochers, being reft of largess, will migrate to the wealthier States, making demands for their accustomed lifestyle. They MUST be told NO!

IF they are here legally, they could be offered JOBS!


3) We the people can legally and legitimately kill the Megacorps at any time we chose to... if we all stop buying Pepsi products, that MegaCorps will cease to exist in a few short years. This is TRUE Liberty.


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Allot of good stuff coming in on many different forums:

A new party won't do it.

The Elites will just change their party affiliation; and what you wind up with is the same clowns in a new brand of circus.

The thing to do is to DESTROY THE ELITE system.

That can only be done with TERM LIMITS. Which cut off the Elites from very-renumerative lifetime political-office careers.

THAT can only be done with an Article V Convention.
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Agreed! I think pushing for across the board, all levels, all offices, term limits should be a primary Platform Plank!

I'm not so sure about it needing an Article V Convention. I can assure you of one thing, I do NOT want an Article V Convention, until we haven't seen a Candidate with a "D" win for at least one election cycle.

An Article V Convention, with Democrats able to manipulate and fraud it, could be an utter disaster.

Let's see the Democratic Party's demise, then look at such things.

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They have to redefine and streamline the "Libertarian" message:

--LESS Government. (as per the TEA Party)

--FEWER Taxes. (as per the TEA Party)

--GREATER Social and Cultural freedoms. (as per the Democrat Party)

Typically, Libertarians have had more in common with the GOP than the DNC, so, I question that they can become a viable, centrist, third party.

Would like to see it, as it is past time the Libertarians made their move to become a legit third party, and not just a factional wing of the GOP.

But: Will people buy in to their ideals? That is the big question.....
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Don't even aim for "Legit Third Party", That is accepting failure from the start.


Aim for Replacement Working People's Party, One of the Two Major Parties... and let the Democrats suffer the scraps of being the Third Party!


And the American People have already shown they'll BUY it, after all, what we're really talking about is recreating the JFK Democratic Party. Recreating the Democratic Party as it was before Political Correctness, Critical Theory, and Cultural Marxism!


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If you are not willing to occupy, might as well drop the W from your name from the get.
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We are Working people, not rioters, looters, and murders who've never had a job that didn't come from Democracy Partners or the Foval Group.

We do NOT need to Occupy anything to achieve our goals, we just need to Organize to field candidates and get out to LEGALLY Vote!

The OWLs are the Honest Working Man's Party, not the voter fraud, dirty tricks, bird dogging, rioting and looting Democratic Party!

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Kurmugeon said:
We are at the crux of a historical moment in American history, the demise of the Democratic Party, and the birth of the OWLs!

OWLs! - Ordinary Working Libertarians.

The sensible Party in the center, working hard for Working People!

So, what should become the primary political platform planks of the New Working People's political party?

From what group of people should they recruit their first candidates?

Will we be able to get enough organization completed to field candidates in all 50 states in 2018?

Should we allow ANY office holding Democrats to cross over?

There is a mountain of work to do!....

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Yup....
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...-signs-of-imploding-now&p=1766369#post1766369
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I thought you meant Occupy Wallstreet Liberals......
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No... Like most practical, working, American Citizens, I don't have much use for the Far Lefties.

OWLs are Ordinary, Working, Libertarians.

Common people who just want to do their jobs, pay the bills, raise their kids, and here and there, have beer or go to a movie.

We don't want any grand revolutions, or dismantling of capitalism.

We don't want a radically cut government with nothing in the way of the safety net.

We don't want any particular race/gender/orientation group getting either preference or discrmination.

We don't want to police the world, or try to fix the middle east, but we don't want them coming here to kill either.

OWLs are pragmatic centrists!

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Kurmugeon said:
We are at the crux of a historical moment in American history, the demise of the Democratic Party, and the birth of the OWLs!

OWLs! - Ordinary Working Libertarians.

The sensible Party in the center, working hard for Working People!

So, what should become the primary political platform planks of the New Working People's political party?

From what group of people should they recruit their first candidates?

Will we be able to get enough organization completed to field candidates in all 50 states in 2018?

Should we allow ANY office holding Democrats to cross over?

There is a mountain of work to do!....

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TAKE BACK THE NIGHT

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