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Taichiliberal

Taichiliberal

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YOU CANNOT SAY 'ALL LIVES MATTER' WHEN YOU DO NOTHING TO STOP SYSTEMIC RACISM & POLICE BRUTALITY.

YOU CANNOT SAY 'ALL LIVES MATTER' WHEN BLACK PEOPLE ARE DYING AND ALL YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT IS THE LOOTING.

YOU CANNOT SAY 'ALL LIVES MATTER' WHEN YOU ALLOW CHILDREN TO BE CAGED, VETERANS TO GO HOMELESS, AND POOR FAMILIES TO GO HUNGRY & LOSE THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE.

DO ALL LIVES MATTER? YES. BUT RIGHT NOW, ONLY BLACK LIVES ARE BEING TARGETED, JAILED, AND KILLED EN MASSE- SO THAT'S WHO WE'RE FOCUSING ON.

BLACK LIVES MATTER

IF YOU CAN'T SEE THIS, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
 
Taichiliberal said:
YOU CANNOT SAY 'ALL LIVES MATTER' WHEN YOU DO NOTHING TO STOP SYSTEMIC RACISM & POLICE BRUTALITY.

YOU CANNOT SAY 'ALL LIVES MATTER' WHEN BLACK PEOPLE ARE DYING AND ALL YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT IS THE LOOTING.

YOU CANNOT SAY 'ALL LIVES MATTER' WHEN YOU ALLOW CHILDREN TO BE CAGED, VETERANS TO GO HOMELESS, AND POOR FAMILIES TO GO HUNGRY & LOSE THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE.

DO ALL LIVES MATTER? YES. BUT RIGHT NOW, ONLY BLACK LIVES ARE BEING TARGETED, JAILED, AND KILLED EN MASSE- SO THAT'S WHO WE'RE FOCUSING ON.

BLACK LIVES MATTER

IF YOU CAN'T SEE THIS, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
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If you believe this, you are the problem.

Prove any of the above with facts.
 
Taichiliberal said:
YOU CANNOT SAY 'ALL LIVES MATTER' WHEN YOU DO NOTHING TO STOP SYSTEMIC RACISM & POLICE BRUTALITY.

YOU CANNOT SAY 'ALL LIVES MATTER' WHEN BLACK PEOPLE ARE DYING AND ALL YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT IS THE LOOTING.

YOU CANNOT SAY 'ALL LIVES MATTER' WHEN YOU ALLOW CHILDREN TO BE CAGED, VETERANS TO GO HOMELESS, AND POOR FAMILIES TO GO HUNGRY & LOSE THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE.

DO ALL LIVES MATTER? YES. BUT RIGHT NOW, ONLY BLACK LIVES ARE BEING TARGETED, JAILED, AND KILLED EN MASSE- SO THAT'S WHO WE'RE FOCUSING ON.

BLACK LIVES MATTER

IF YOU CAN'T SEE THIS, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
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:palm:
 
 
AProudLefty said:
Where are you on USMB? I've made a couple of "friends" already. :laugh:
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Well, it appears they screwed up on when my ban is over. It was SUPPOSED to be lifted this morning, 12AM CST. It appears I'll have to wait until tonight at midnight. Unfortunately when you get a ban on there, you can't contact anyone on the site, so I ASSUME they got the lifting of my ban off by a day. I'll try again at midnight tonight to see if I can get back on the site. I use the name bluzman61 on there, this refers to my love of blues music, and 1961, the year I was born.
 
Steven VanderMolen said:
Well, it appears they screwed up on when my ban is over. It was SUPPOSED to be lifted this morning, 12AM CST. It appears I'll have to wait until tonight at midnight. Unfortunately when you get a ban on there, you can't contact anyone on the site, so I ASSUME they got the lifting of my ban off by a day. I'll try again at midnight tonight to see if I can get back on the site. I use the name bluzman61 on there, this refers to my love of blues music, and 1961, the year I was born.
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Okay. I have the same name there. Look for me in intro.

I've already been called names on the get go. :laugh:
 
T. A. Gardner said:
If you believe this, you are the problem.

Prove any of the above with facts.
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Typical right wing wonk....you can't deny the truth, so you stall by asking for a reiteration of documented valid facts … of which you will deny or look at with an intellectual myopia that defies logic. But hope springs eternal, and I do have a weak spot for exposing you jokers in public. FYI (you can disagree with the source ONLY if you can logically disprove its content);

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/i...killings-black-americans-200531105741757.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...cism-police-evidence-criminal-justice-system/
https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/07/11/written-testimony-kids-cages-inhumane-treatment-border

https://budget.house.gov/publicatio...eterans-through-extreme-cuts-crucial-programs
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...ans-program-as-numbers-increase-idUSKBN22B26S

https://www.cbpp.org/sabotage-watch-tracking-efforts-to-undermine-the-aca
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ition-assistance-bernie-sanders-rashida-tlaib

https://www.innocenceproject.org/african-american-wrongful-convictions-throughout-history/
 
Steven VanderMolen said:
Well, it appears they screwed up on when my ban is over. It was SUPPOSED to be lifted this morning, 12AM CST. It appears I'll have to wait until tonight at midnight. Unfortunately when you get a ban on there, you can't contact anyone on the site, so I ASSUME they got the lifting of my ban off by a day. I'll try again at midnight tonight to see if I can get back on the site. I use the name bluzman61 on there, this refers to my love of blues music, and 1961, the year I was born.
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No one cares, Stevie.....your backing RB60 demonstrates your inability to think beyond the headlines.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Typical right wing wonk....you can't deny the truth, so you stall by asking for a reiteration of documented valid facts … of which you will deny or look at with an intellectual myopia that defies logic. But hope springs eternal, and I do have a weak spot for exposing you jokers in public. FYI (you can disagree with the source ONLY if you can logically disprove its content);

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/i...killings-black-americans-200531105741757.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...cism-police-evidence-criminal-justice-system/
https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/07/11/written-testimony-kids-cages-inhumane-treatment-border

https://budget.house.gov/publicatio...eterans-through-extreme-cuts-crucial-programs
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...ans-program-as-numbers-increase-idUSKBN22B26S

https://www.cbpp.org/sabotage-watch-tracking-efforts-to-undermine-the-aca
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ition-assistance-bernie-sanders-rashida-tlaib

https://www.innocenceproject.org/african-american-wrongful-convictions-throughout-history/
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A combination of op eds, vested interests, and Leftist sources. Before I take you up on "you can disagree with the source ONLY if you can logically disprove its content) how about you first offer proof the content is valid.

For example, you list a source about homeless veterans. While my initial response is anecdotal, my experience with homeless persons claiming veteran's status is that most are either lying totally, or were discharged under less than honorable conditions and did not complete their service contract. Of the second, most went in an E-1 and were discharged and E-1 after disciplinary or criminal proceedings.

The liars are easy to filter out. They're like Eddie Murphy in the movie Trading Places.


I usually ask easy ones any veteran could answer. Which branch? What was your MOS? Where were you stationed? Posers rarely are prepped to answer those things in a way that rings true. The worst of these are the "Stolen Valor" sort who are using their lie to enrich themselves or gain sympathy.

The other sort are just the bad apples, so-to-speak. They are veterans in name only, if that. A "veteran" who was discharged after several NJP Article 15 or Mast hearings, or was court martialed is hardly a veteran in good standing.

Today, a panhandler can usually play being a veteran off because the vast majority of Americans were never in the military. The number dramatically decreases for those 30 and under. Few veterans who served honorably are homeless. For them, they did their job and got on with their life. Yet, the idea persists that large numbers of homeless are veterans in good standing.
 
Taichiliberal said:
YOU CANNOT SAY 'ALL LIVES MATTER' WHEN YOU DO NOTHING TO STOP SYSTEMIC RACISM & POLICE BRUTALITY.

YOU CANNOT SAY 'ALL LIVES MATTER' WHEN BLACK PEOPLE ARE DYING AND ALL YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT IS THE LOOTING.

YOU CANNOT SAY 'ALL LIVES MATTER' WHEN YOU ALLOW CHILDREN TO BE CAGED, VETERANS TO GO HOMELESS, AND POOR FAMILIES TO GO HUNGRY & LOSE THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE.

DO ALL LIVES MATTER? YES. BUT RIGHT NOW, ONLY BLACK LIVES ARE BEING TARGETED, JAILED, AND KILLED EN MASSE- SO THAT'S WHO WE'RE FOCUSING ON.

BLACK LIVES MATTER

IF YOU CAN'T SEE THIS, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
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Some of us don't believe the media narrative about black people being targeted by police. Though I do agree that "all lives matter" is a really bad argument because it ignores the BLM argument altogether.
It's also ironic that the people who say that all lives matter also sided with the cops when they pushed a 75 year old white man and nearly killed him.
 
StoneByStone said:
Some of us don't believe the media narrative about black people being targeted by police. Though I do agree that "all lives matter" is a really bad argument because it ignores the BLM argument altogether.
It's also ironic that the people who say that all lives matter also sided with the cops when they pushed a 75 year old white man and nearly killed him.
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Here's the thing....I defy ANY right winger having hysterics to quote chapter and verse, in no uncertain terms EXACTLY what BLM proposes that takes food out of their mouths or money out of their pockets.

As to Black folk being targeted.....I remember in about the last 20 years the NY cops had put out a profile for cops to look at "well dressed black men, 21-35 traveling on LIRR and AMRAK as possible drug dealers. However, there was NOT any such type of BOLA (be on the lookout alerts) for white folk....strange that, given the meth epidemic at the time. Just saying.
 
Taichiliberal said:
YOU CANNOT SAY 'ALL LIVES MATTER' WHEN YOU DO NOTHING TO STOP SYSTEMIC RACISM & POLICE BRUTALITY.

YOU CANNOT SAY 'ALL LIVES MATTER' WHEN BLACK PEOPLE ARE DYING AND ALL YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT IS THE LOOTING.

YOU CANNOT SAY 'ALL LIVES MATTER' WHEN YOU ALLOW CHILDREN TO BE CAGED, VETERANS TO GO HOMELESS, AND POOR FAMILIES TO GO HUNGRY & LOSE THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE.

DO ALL LIVES MATTER? YES. BUT RIGHT NOW, ONLY BLACK LIVES ARE BEING TARGETED, JAILED, AND KILLED EN MASSE- SO THAT'S WHO WE'RE FOCUSING ON.

BLACK LIVES MATTER

IF YOU CAN'T SEE THIS, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
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all lives matter.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Typical right wing wonk....you can't deny the truth, so you stall by asking for a reiteration of documented valid facts … of which you will deny or look at with an intellectual myopia that defies logic. But hope springs eternal, and I do have a weak spot for exposing you jokers in public. FYI (you can disagree with the source ONLY if you can logically disprove its content);

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/in...105741757.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...ustice-system/
https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/07/11/...eatment-border

https://budget.house.gov/publication...ucial-programs
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN22B26S

https://www.cbpp.org/sabotage-watch-...ermine-the-aca
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-rashida-tlaib

https://www.innocenceproject.org/afr...ghout-history/
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A combination of op eds, vested interests, and Leftist sources. Before I take you up on "you can disagree with the source ONLY if you can logically disprove its content) how about you first offer proof the content is valid.

For example, you list a source about homeless veterans. While my initial response is anecdotal, my experience with homeless persons claiming veteran's status is that most are either lying totally, or were discharged under less than honorable conditions and did not complete their service contract. Of the second, most went in an E-1 and were discharged and E-1 after disciplinary or criminal proceedings.

The liars are easy to filter out. They're like Eddie Murphy in the movie Trading Places.


I usually ask easy ones any veteran could answer. Which branch? What was your MOS? Where were you stationed? Posers rarely are prepped to answer those things in a way that rings true. The worst of these are the "Stolen Valor" sort who are using their lie to enrich themselves or gain sympathy.

The other sort are just the bad apples, so-to-speak. They are veterans in name only, if that. A "veteran" who was discharged after several NJP Article 15 or Mast hearings, or was court martialed is hardly a veteran in good standing.

Today, a panhandler can usually play being a veteran off because the vast majority of Americans were never in the military. The number dramatically decreases for those 30 and under. Few veterans who served honorably are homeless. For them, they did their job and got on with their life. Yet, the idea persists that large numbers of homeless are veterans in good standing.
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Anyone who reads the contents of the links I provided can see that T.A. Gardner is totally dishonest in his response. He essentially makes personal claims that can't be verified, throws in all sorts of supposition and conjecture and then a movie clip to emphasize his "point". :rolleyes:

Time and again we see right wing wonks use this pathetic tactic.....they never directly address point for point documented information from valid sources when it goes against their personal beliefs....instead they detract with the previously mentioned as if it's on par with documented facts and valid sources (hint: it's not, as any high school or college educator will tell you). Revisionism is the watch word for those like T.A. Gardner....so much more to pity them.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Here's the thing....I defy ANY right winger having hysterics to quote chapter and verse, in no uncertain terms EXACTLY what BLM proposes that takes food out of their mouths or money out of their pockets.

As to Black folk being targeted.....I remember in about the last 20 years the NY cops had put out a profile for cops to look at "well dressed black men, 21-35 traveling on LIRR and AMRAK as possible drug dealers. However, there was NOT any such type of BOLA (be on the lookout alerts) for white folk....strange that, given the meth epidemic at the time. Just saying.
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Well if the narrative is wrong, and black people aren't disadvantaged, then the only way to appease them would be to give them more at the expense of white people. Personally, I think BLM is bad because they take a serious issue, police brutality, and muddy the waters by turning it into a racial issue that doesn't really exist. So now instead of talking about police brutality, we're talking about non-existent racism.

As for that NY case, I'm sure there have been moments of racism here and there. I just don't think it's common. There's also been a study saying cops are more likely to shoot white suspects.
 
StoneByStone said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Here's the thing....I defy ANY right winger having hysterics to quote chapter and verse, in no uncertain terms EXACTLY what BLM proposes that takes food out of their mouths or money out of their pockets.

As to Black folk being targeted.....I remember in about the last 20 years the NY cops had put out a profile for cops to look at "well dressed black men, 21-35 traveling on LIRR and AMRAK as possible drug dealers. However, there was NOT any such type of BOLA (be on the lookout alerts) for white folk....strange that, given the meth epidemic at the time. Just saying.
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Well if the narrative is wrong, and black people aren't disadvantaged, then the only way to appease them would be to give them more at the expense of white people. Personally, I think BLM is bad because they take a serious issue, police brutality, and muddy the waters by turning it into a racial issue that doesn't really exist. So now instead of talking about police brutality, we're talking about non-existent racism.

As for that NY case, I'm sure there have been moments of racism here and there. I just don't think it's common. There's also been a study saying cops are more likely to shoot white suspects.
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Whoa! Back it up......JUST for the last 20 some odd years you've had highly publicized cases demonstrating when white cops unjustly kill or hassle or jail black folk, they are 9 time out of 10 given a free pass by the hierarchy. Matters of fact and history that any objective person can easily research (for starters: the Diallo case in NYC, the Central Park Five). If one listens CAREFULLY to BLM, they are calling for police reform that addresses such, because they are NOT saying all cops are bad, but the culture sustains the bad ones. So when stuff like Floyd's case gets the spotlight, it puts good cops in jeopardy because people assume all cops are bad. And no, there is no study that shows that cops are shooting white suspects innocent of any crime or for minor infractions or are using deadly force unnecessarily more so than on black folk. Those "stats" merely reflect what happens to the larger percentage of the population generally.

Not getting nasty, but what you think and what actually is are two different things. Hell, Jimmy Kimmel gets it:"White privilege doesn’t mean your life hasn’t been hard. It just means the color of your skin isn’t one of the things that makes it harder." https://ew.com/tv/jimmy-kimmel-white-privilege/
 
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