what really disturbs me about Trump...

SmarterthanYou said:
right. waterboarding isn't torture either, right? stop being a government cock sucker and use your fucking brain.....if you have one that is.
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No, waterboarding is most assuredly torture. But the individual option penalty is a tax.
You need to calm down Paul Revere. You haven't shot any feds because of Bundy's burglary yet have you?
 
Leonthecat said:
No, waterboarding is most assuredly torture. But the individual option penalty is a tax.
You need to calm down Paul Revere. You haven't shot any feds because of Bundy's burglary yet have you?
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you need to stop allowing the government to make SOME definitions for you that you agree with. it's called consistency, which is extremely difficult for people that love authoritarianism.....like yourself. so either waterboarding is torture and the 'penalty' is indeed a fine, or it actually is just a tax and waterboarding is nowhere close to torture. how about it, gov lover?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
you need to stop allowing the government to make SOME definitions for you that you agree with. it's called consistency, which is extremely difficult for people that love authoritarianism.....like yourself. so either waterboarding is torture and the 'penalty' is indeed a fine, or it actually is just a tax and waterboarding is nowhere close to torture. how about it, gov lover?
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I support the truths I believe. I am not a knee-jerk either / or extremist like you.
Shoot any feds yet Paul Revere?
 
Jarod said:
1. Its not huge.
2. No more authoritarian than other taxes based on what you do.
3. Passed by CONGRESS.
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1. for some of us who aren't 'wealthy', like you, it's HUGE!!!!!
2. there is a HUGE difference between taxes and mandated purchases, especiallly if you leftards consider healthcare a right, not a privilege.
3. passed completely by ideological idiocy
 
I Love America said:
So if Congress and a President signed into law a bill mandating you buy a gun or pay a fine you would be fine with that?
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I would not like it, I would not support it. I would not call it authoritarian if it was done using the democratic process.

I already have a gun.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
1. for some of us who aren't 'wealthy', like you, it's HUGE!!!!!
2. there is a HUGE difference between taxes and mandated purchases, especiallly if you leftards consider healthcare a right, not a privilege.
3. passed completely by ideological idiocy
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Mandated purchases of a product that results in the government spending less money helps the common good.
 
Jarod said:
I disagree, if the "punishment" is a tax, its not unconstitutional. It likely would be unconstitutional if the punishment were jail time.
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wordsmithing to support your authoritarian agenda. plain and simple. a 'tax' is exactly that, a 'tax'. or to put it another way....if taxes are punishment, why are we, a 'free' people, being treated as convicted criminals being punished for crimes we didn't commit?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
1. for some of us who aren't 'wealthy', like you, it's HUGE!!!!!
2. there is a HUGE difference between taxes and mandated purchases, especiallly if you leftards consider healthcare a right, not a privilege.
3. passed completely by ideological idiocy
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And administration has been done in conflict with the bill passed.
 
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