What is the worst, greater crime, bigger threat to America

T. A. Gardner said:
Well, there is the form he lied on to purchase a firearm. One of the questions on the form asks about drug use. Having an adjudicated case of being a drug user--in Bagman's case this would be his dismissal from naval service and losing his commission for drug abuse. The laptop further confirms his continued use. Answering "Yes" would have prohibited the sale of the weapon but we know he was able to purchase it.

He answered that question "No." Lying on that form is a federal felony.
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So the issue I'm talking about is Joe allegedly using his political influence to shovel favors to Hunter. There is no evidence to support that. That's what all the twumptards are claiming.

All that personal stuff, the whores the drug use.. the majority of congress does the same shit, the rest are women congressmen. Hunter's personal shit has nothing to do with Joe. We hope Hunter gets better.
 
LurchAddams said:
So the issue I'm talking about is Joe allegedly using his political influence to shovel favors to Hunter. There is no evidence to support that. That's what all the twumptards are claiming.

All that personal stuff, the whores the drug use.. the majority of congress does the same shit, the rest are women congressmen. Hunter's personal shit has nothing to do with Joe. We hope Hunter gets better.
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I think his 'billion dollars' video says the opposite. I think all those photos of Joke with Bagman and his 'business partners' says Joke was lying his ass off about not knowing anything about Bagman's business dealings. I further think that Bagman's business partner's saying "The Big Guy" was Joke and that Joke knew full well what was going on are all solid evidence Joke was up to his eyeballs in questionable and illegal business dealings.
 
Ultra MAGA said:
It's a simple question in order to ascertain your honesty. Who do you think "The Big Guy" is?
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In order for me to answer that I need to consider the source. Now, the source is a story from the NY Post that has been debunked. Any more questions?
 
archives said:
Hunter Biden’s supposed using his father’s position to gain financially and kicking back to “the big guy,” or, a bitter, angry exPresident, one lacking morals or principles, illegally hiding and lying about top secret files no one is suppose to posses that possibly include nuclear documents?
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with Biden we've got both......
 
archives said:
So you are denying that boxes of files that Trump was not to suppose to possess
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denying something that is based only upon "unnamed sources" quoted by press with a proven history of lying?.......hell yes we deny it.......you've been down that rabbit hole a dozen times in the last seven years.......
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I think his 'billion dollars' video says the opposite. I think all those photos of Joke with Bagman and his 'business partners' says Joke was lying his ass off about not knowing anything about Bagman's business dealings. I further think that Bagman's business partner's saying "The Big Guy" was Joke and that Joke knew full well what was going on are all solid evidence Joke was up to his eyeballs in questionable and illegal business dealings.
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Show me any hard evidence - such as an email, a canceled check, an electronic transfer from China that Joe used his influence to enrich Hunter in any way and I promise I will look at it. All you're talking about is innuendo. No hard facts.

Evidence.. please... like the canceled check to Stormy or the warrant last week.. you know - proof.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Our Founding fathers had a lot of personality flaws- Racism, misogyny, democracy killers, Plutocracy, fundamentalists, zealots, and clerics.
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then I daresay that you should get the fuck out of this country, or join in the call for a constitutional convention so we can change it, since you hate the constitution that much
 
Ultra MAGA said:
The source is Hunter's emails. Who do you think "The Big Guy" is?
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Ok.. if you're talking about emails extracted from that laptop - as I explained earlier, the laptop was in Rudy's custody, thus the broken chain of custody. The emails to which you're referring - not admissible in court. And there's a good reason for that. Rudy had the laptop and Rudy is an evil liar.

Any more questions, let me know.
 
archives said:
Hunter Biden’s supposed using his father’s position to gain financially and kicking back to “the big guy,” or, a bitter, angry exPresident, one lacking morals or principles, illegally hiding and lying about top secret files no one is suppose to posses that possibly include nuclear documents?
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Both can be addressed or not addressed at the same time.
 
LurchAddams said:
Ok.. if you're talking about emails extracted from that laptop - as I explained earlier, the laptop was in Rudy's custody, thus the broken chain of custody. The emails to which you're referring - not admissible in court. And there's a good reason for that. Rudy had the laptop and Rudy is an evil liar.

Any more questions, let me know.
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According to the New York Post, the FBI obtained the laptop from the repair shop owner in December of 2019 and has said nothing to date regarding the computer's contents. Additionally, a copy of the hard drive was reportedly given to an associate of Rudy Giuliani.
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https://www.smerconish.com/exclusive-content/the-cybersecurity-behind-the-hunter-biden-laptop-story

Are you denying that the FBI has a copy that the Rudy version can be compared to?
 
Ultra MAGA said:
https://www.smerconish.com/exclusive-content/the-cybersecurity-behind-the-hunter-biden-laptop-story

Are you denying that the FBI has a copy that the Rudy version can be compared to?
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And this is from your own article, proving my point and disproving yours. Did you not even read your own article?

" Running under the assumption that the laptop itself is real, and the FBI has it, we can then assume it exists. If that is all true, then the first goal of a cybersecurity expert should be to validate its ownership. In other words, it means verifying that the laptop does indeed belong to Hunter Biden and not a forgery. The repair shop owner himself stated he wasn't sure it was Hunter Biden that dropped it off, which means that the Chain of Custody starts with this person. This issue complicates the situation because there is a possibility that this laptop came from somewhere else – including the owner himself. The owner has made conflicting statements to reporters, further compounding doubts.?

Therefore, it's not out of the possibility that this technician, which is understood to the repair shop owner, worked under the same standards and went looking deeply into the laptop and found what is being reported publicly. However, since we don't have a transparent Chain of Custody and don't understand the Foundation's standards and practices, the data discovered on the laptop that has appeared in the news is automatically suspect.



Any more questions?
 
archives said:
Hunter Biden’s supposed using his father’s position to gain financially and kicking back to “the big guy,” or, a bitter, angry exPresident, one lacking morals or principles, illegally hiding and lying about top secret files no one is suppose to posses that possibly include nuclear documents?
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BEING ON OUR ENEMIES' PAYROLL...LIKE "THE BIG GUY"....OBVIOUSLY.
 
LurchAddams said:
Show me any hard evidence - such as an email, a canceled check, an electronic transfer from China that Joe used his influence to enrich Hunter in any way and I promise I will look at it. All you're talking about is innuendo. No hard facts.

Evidence.. please... like the canceled check to Stormy or the warrant last week.. you know - proof.
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This is nothing more than a weak attempt to use a Burden of Proof fallacy. That is, no matter how much evidence is presented, the opposing person demands ever more in an attempt to make it impossible for the other side to meet their ever increasing level. In this case it is also being used as a an Appeal to the Stone where all the provided examples are dismissed out-of-hand without so much as an even basic attempt to counter them.

In the end, it is a use of Bulversim. That is, by demanding ever more proof while simultaneously dismissing their opponent's arguments and facts out-of-hand you try and shut down the argument.

You must show that a man is wrong before you start explaining why he is wrong, or demanding more proof from him.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
This is nothing more than a weak attempt to use a Burden of Proof fallacy. That is, no matter how much evidence is presented, the opposing person demands ever more in an attempt to make it impossible for the other side to meet their ever increasing level. In this case it is also being used as a an Appeal to the Stone where all the provided examples are dismissed out-of-hand without so much as an even basic attempt to counter them.

In the end, it is a use of Bulversim. That is, by demanding ever more proof while simultaneously dismissing their opponent's arguments and facts out-of-hand you try and shut down the argument.

You must show that a man is wrong before you start explaining why he is wrong, or demanding more proof from him.
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No dude, you picked up a debunked NY Post article with some "big guy" whatever in there. You're just like the twumptards who claim voter fraud and have zero proof.

You have no proof Joe Biden did anything inappropriate to help Hunter. Now, if you do, please send it to the FBI, and please don't try to "school" me on what constitutes evidence. I know way more than you.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
To paraphrase George Bernard Shaw, He who can does, he who can't resorts to insults... :awesome:
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Actually, it was, "He who can does...he who can't resorts to "Mommy, he said nah, nah, nah to me."

You fucking little baby. Mix it up or go back to your crib. If you are going to complain about "insults" in a forum like this, "your crib" is where you belong.
 
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